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[Jack cw]

Gears of War 4 exclusive to XBone will sell a shittonne.

The same shittone that Judgement sold?
They need to heavily alter and improve the whole franchise in order to achieve those sales of Gears 3.

 

[Y2Kev]

I'm actually interested in speculating now. Rumors were flying some time ago that they were behind in their project. Wonder if they were really behind or not making progress so Microsoft found them something to do.

 

[BPoole]

Yeah I was joking but there were actually 4 Uncharted games( we are talking franchises so you have to include Uncharted on Vita) and Infamous had a downloadable spinoff vampire game so really there were 3 Infamous games last gen. I think in all seriousness all of the big three milk their successful franchises quite a bit.

Both are guilty but I feel MS is a much bigger culprit. Sony brought tons of quality new IP last gen, such as Uncharted, TLOU, LBP, Resistance, Motorstorm, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Puppeteer, and Beyond. Look at the last several years of the 360's life, pretty much a barren wasteland of nothing but Halo/Gears/Forza

 

[coolasj19]

The Black Tusk website now has this on it:

So maybe they are only working on a new Gears game and not their new IP anymore.

Excuse me while I let out the pained groan of a dying animal.
Arhughggggaaeeeghghgg

 

[Mondy]

How is it Sony's fault?

By offering bigger money for the rights then Microsoft did?

 

[Endo Punk]

I'm really surprised EPIC decided to sell the IP completely instead of going into another exclusive partnership. Wonder how much it cost MS...

 

[idlewild_]

The game apparently never existed.

Interest evaporated, never really got into Gears. Oh well, good get for MS, there are a lot of people out there who do like the series.

 

[ekim]

would you like to work on the game,,.?

http://www.microsoft-careers.com/jo...ce=J2WRSS&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=J2W_RSS

Next Big IP?

 

[BloodMoney]

Was hoping for something new.

 

[Lewpy]

I really enjoyed the first 2 titles and as others have said, started to loose interest by about half way through the third offering. Didn't even entertain Judgement.

However, I think with another studio taking a crack at a franchise synonymous with the Xbox, in a new console...if they get it right they could have a winner on their hands. I would definitely get back on the wagon if it was done right and not just a prettier retread of previous titles.

 

[plasmawave]

Bitter sweet... if they are really abandoning their new IP for gears then that's kinda disappointing.

 

[Guerrilla]

so if black tusk is only working on gears now, what were they doing the last couple of years? I mean MS just bought the franchise, so they are probably just getting started...

 

[twobear]

so basically, black tusk is just another franchise factory like 343i and turn 10

well there goes what little interest i had in the company

 

[DigitalDevilSummoner]

Urgh, the news that Black Tusk is basically a replacement for Epic made this news... meh.

Kinda this. I suppose it makes sense from a business standpoint for MS but at the end of the day it's just some glorified outsourcing for the franchise.

 

[Smidget]

Darnit. Now I need to get an Xbone eventually :/ One of my most played games of last gen. The competitive multiplayer is just awesome.

 

[Nightengale]

Yeah I was joking but there were actually 4 Uncharted games( we are talking franchises so you have to include Uncharted on Vita) and Infamous had a downloadable spinoff vampire game so really there were 3 Infamous games last gen. I think in all seriousness all of the big three milk their successful franchises quite a bit.

My personal feel on this is that I have no problem with franchises being milked and rehashed, especially when the devs themselves want to continue working on said games.

(the junior staff of SSM wanted to make more GoW, there was the ND article about droves of staff leaving when they decided to make a new IP instead of continuing with Jak, etc )

My fear is when devs are possibly stuck in a situation where they're not able or allowed to do anything other than be a franchise milking cow.

We've seen and heard enough of studios like ND, Japan Studio and Polyphony that they basically are allowed to do whatever they like for most parts, so any rehash on their part is something they most likely chose to do out of their own volition. I have no issue with a 4th or even 5th Uncharted, granted that it is what Amy Hennig wants to keep doing.

But I would be pissed if Bruce/Druckmann were forced to do something they don't want to do.

 

[enanogrande]

I'm actually interested in speculating now. Rumors were flying some time ago that they were behind in their project. Wonder if they were really behind or not making progress so Microsoft found them something to do.

Quick, someone signal the Buttocks...

 

[staticneuron]

Its funny seeing all the "why, shouldn't they just end the series""milking continues"

gears sells well and the games are above average. "milking gears is no different than milking uncharted, killzone, halo, AC , Mario ,Zelda or any other game that gas multiple titles. There's obviously a core audience who loves these games. Personally I like the single player but hate the multiplayer

It is more about how the series plays out and how the stories lend themselves to a sequel.

God of War Ascension and Gears of War Judgement are two games that came after the supposed finale of a storyline and happens to be a prequel. I personally am not a fan of prequels unless done really well (I give a pass to reach and ODST for some reason) but most other franchises you mention either do not have a storyline to maintain or have actual continuations to the story.

 

[flkraven]

Last gen we had 2 Killzones, 3 Uncharteds, and 2 Infamous games. On the other hand, we had 5 Halo games, 4 Forza games, and 4 Gears of War games

Let's not split hairs. They both milk their franchises. Heck, everyone does and who can blame them if they make money.

 

[Vinterbird]

I'm actually interested in speculating now. Rumors were flying some time ago that they were behind in their project. Wonder if they were really behind or not making progress so Microsoft found them something to do.

I think something happened. Otherwise I would expect CBOAT to had outright said it was Gears back when he/she discussed Black Tusks game.

Plus didn't Microsoft outright say that the Black Tusk video was from their new game? And that didn't seem like it would fit into the themes of what Gears is today.

 

[shinobi602]

Yes. HELL YES.

Rod Fergusson, former Director of Production at Epic Games on the “Gears of War” franchise, will join Microsoft and play a key studio leadership role at Black Tusk on the development of the franchise going forward.

Unreal Engine 4

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

My 3 cents

1) That's a pretty great ip grab by MS
2) Hope they don't screw it up as badly as Halo 4
3) Does Epic even make games anymore? Cliffyb's hypothetical new ip might be putt before their next console/pc game
4) We now know MS' big holiday 2015 title.

 

[Pyramid head]

If the game is titled simply "Gears of War" my eyes are gonna roll out of my head.

 

[GlamFM]

Well that´s disappointing..

So was their original IP cancelled? Or do we believe MS that they never worked on something else?

 

[Pharaoh 117]

And the Halo-Gears-Fable-Forza cycle continues...

 

[MavFan619]

Yet another franchise that Sony let slip through their fingers.

Didn't they let Gears slip years ago when their was 4 games on 360? I don't see it being a big deal MS locking up what's been essentially their game. Can't lie when I woke up to this news I was hoping it was a completely new game announcement.

 

[UltimateRemag]

Lost interest after gears 2.. but good for those who still love the franchise though.

 

[GoofsterStud]

I'm actually interested in speculating now. Rumors were flying some time ago that they were behind in their project. Wonder if they were really behind or not making progress so Microsoft found them something to do.

I hope not. Let's hope they knew about this for a while and have something worth showing for E3.

 

[BuggeryBugz]

We've seen virtually nothing from these games. At least wait until we've seen actual gameplay before claiming these are actually coming out.

Wait......so you don't think those games are actually coming out because you haven't seen gameplay?

 

[FullMetalx117]

can't wait! I wonder if they are going to make more spin off games or somehow create a new enemy like Halo.

 

[Mdk7]

If this means the secret Black Tusk project was a new Gears... this is kinda disappointing news?

I mean, I love Gears and all, but I was really hoping for some new mind-blowing IP.

THIS.

 

[NintenDOMG]

Oh yes! Good news for any Xbox fans.
Can't wait to see Gears of War on Xbox One.

 

[zhao3gold]

Is there anyone tweeting to Phil in order to clarify the game from Black Tusk showed in E3 2013 is not next gears game?

I hope they are not the same games. I want to have a new IP and a Gears reboot.

 

[Marleyman]

The same shittone that Judgement sold?
They need to heavily alter and improve the whole franchise in order to achieve those sales of Gears 3.

Many factors led to Judgment not doing that well. I believe the end of the gen had a lot to do with it, for starters. It was also a prequel, which didn't go over with many of the long time fans(I didn't buy it, first one I didn't get). At least for me, that doesn't make me all of a sudden not want anymore Gears; in fact, this announcement has my interest more than any other game coming down the pipeline for the One.

 

[ManUtdRedDevils]

So last generation all over again? Meh

 

[Vinterbird]

My 3 cents

1) That's a pretty great ip grab by MS
2) Hope they don't screw it up as badly as Halo 4
3) Does Epic even make games anymore? Cliffyb's hypothetical new ip might be putt before their next console/pc game
4) We now know MS' big holiday 2015 title.

Epic is supposedly still doing Fortnight.

I hope not. Let's hope they knew about this for a while and have something worth showing for E3.

The announcement says Microsoft expects to show/discuss the game in this calendar year, so there has to be something. Plus otherwise it is going to be hard to have it ready to go in Fall 2015.

 

[Gadirok]

So basically they lied at E3. They must really like Sony's approach to the launch of the PS3.

"The thing we showed at E3 last year, it was something that was done in Unreal and more of a concept piece," Spencer said, calling it "an asset" created by the team to get their creative juices flowing, not necessarily an in-development game.

So it was a tech demo.

They're just going to end up working on Gears?

I thought that with the ample supply of amazing developers in Vancouver we would get somewhere along the lines of whole new ground.

Hopefully, they completely change the gears formula.

 

[ekim]

I'm actually interested in speculating now. Rumors were flying some time ago that they were behind in their project. Wonder if they were really behind or not making progress so Microsoft found them something to do.

`Yeah- CBOATs leaks also didn't really imply they are working on GoW.

 

[Tobor]

Wait, there is no new IP being worked on by Black Tusk? Just another Gears?

Lol, dodged a bullet. Desire to buy an Xbone still at 0%.

 

[RulkezX]

I'm actually interested in speculating now. Rumors were flying some time ago that they were behind in their project. Wonder if they were really behind or not making progress so Microsoft found them something to do.

Well the quote from Spencer says that Black Tusk have just been messing around with concepts for 6-9 months and that the leadership knew about the GEoW deal.

It would appear that BT were twiddling their thumbs waiting to see if MS could get GEoW before they go balls out on development.

 

[MadLukas]

This is a clear move by MS to try to secure US install base.



I am pretty sure Europe is pretty stoked about it too...

 

[EL CUCO]

Gears Of War:Judgement Definitive Edition, confirmed.

 

[def sim]

I feel exactly the same about this as I do the new Uncharted. I hope both those franchises do something new this generation.

 

[Salex_]

I think, for the most part, that is exactly what you're going to get. We've seen a new Uncharted announced from Sony and moves like this from Microsoft seem to suggest they're putting all their stock in their established franchises as well.

The reception to Ryse and Knack will do new I.P's no favors in the long run. Since next gen began we've seen what, 4 new I.Ps announced for future games, The Order, Watch Dogs (which isn't looking very good, if I'm honest), Drive Club and Evolve. That's it. All the other announced but unreleased games are established franchises.



We've seen virtually nothing from these games. At least wait until we've seen actual gameplay before claiming these are actually coming out.

I really hate when people dismiss things to fit their flawed point.

There's a bunch of 2014 new IPS that you failed to mention. I wonder why...

 

[Mondy]

Wait......so you don't think those games are actually coming out because you haven't seen gameplay?

The Last Guardian.

I'm merely saying, if all a company has shown is an announcement trailer and not something more comprehensive like actual gameplay, it is much easier for them to dump those projects because there aren't as many expectations to crush. This game from Black Tusk is case in point.

 

[Duxxy3]

My 3 cents

1) That's a pretty great ip grab by MS
2) Hope they don't screw it up as badly as Halo 4
3) Does Epic even make games anymore? Cliffyb's hypothetical new ip might be putt before their next console/pc game
4) We now know MS' big holiday 2015 title.

We do?

 

[Marleyman]

Let's not split hairs. They both milk their franchises. Heck, everyone does and who can blame them if they make money.

He isn't counting Uncharted, Killzone's expansion to the Vita. That still counts..but yeah, it is a pointless argument to begin with. Successful franchises get milked in all of media.

 

[José Mourinho]

Oh joy...

Xbox One owner here who stopped playing Gears mid way through 2. I honestly didn't even know Gears was a big deal anymore, although admittedly I don't keep on top of these things.

 

[UltimateRemag]

Why is uncharted being brought up??

 

[bobbytkc]

Well, that was a surprise. At this stage though the franchise is a diminished one. Let's see if black tusk can turn it around.