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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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There's a guy who works two minimum wage jobs. He just saved up enough money to buy the new 720 because he loves Madden. It's the only game he buys every year.
The problem is that he just moved out of his mother's house, so bills are tight. He doesn't have broadband because
1) It's expensive
2) Where he lives, the internet service providers don't have plans he can afford.
You just kept him from playing video games with your always-on connection.
Another guy just started college. He loved Xbox when he was in high school, but the college doesn't allow you to hook your Xbox up to the internet.
You just kept him from playing video games with your always-on connection.
There's a child who got a new Xbox for Christmas. His parents can't be bothered to set up the console so he can get on Xbox Live.
You just kept him from playing video games with your always-on connection.
There's a place out in the country that doesn't have any means of reliable broadband access. A family has scraped together enough money to buy a new Xbox.
You just kept them from playing games with your always-on connection.
Thunderstorm? No video games.
Poor people? No video games.
Not allowed? No video games.
Not tech savvy? No video games.
I don't know if Microsoft realizes this, but their brand was built on college-age males who aren't rich.
You're punishing them.
This so mutch but Gies is pretty good for acting like a clown. I wonder if Cirque du solei has called him to be in one of there acts.
Can we start ignoring Gies and just move on to something more fun? Anything from Detective GAF yet?
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It helps since it raises the lowest common denominator for a game targeted solely for this specific console. If always online is enforced, you are guaranteed, as a dev, that the game is always connected and the console is always at the latest firmware.
As a game design example, if I wanted to build an online RPG type game where all of the NPCs were instances of other people's characters, I would have to budget to include static NPCs to account for a case where the game is not connected to the internet if the console was not guaranteed to be always on.
WrenchNinja
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Yeah, I imagine its pretty tough trying to do pop fiction episodes with this generation's games. I really miss action replays and game sharks.
Also interesting (assuming this is the same awa64):
Evilore is calling Agent 47 right now.
Uno Venova
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Also interesting (assuming this is the same awa64):
Oh yes.
Ploid 3.0
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I was thinking about this too. He is probably Polygon's Simon from American Idol. He gets people talking about Polygon, the bad guy, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Joe Shlabotnik
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These are all neat ideas but only require an online connection for their specific functions and are not a compelling argument for the entire system being a brick offline.
I expect live scores to only work with an online connection. That's fine. I don't expect the entirety of Madden or MLB The Show to only work with an online connection.
Isn't Destiny an MMO? I expect MMOs to only work with an online connection. That's fine. I don't expect single-player campaigns to only work with an online connection.
I expect streaming video and TV to only work with an online connection. I don't expect a fully downloaded show, game, or album to only work with an online connection, etc.
Bitmap Frogs
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He's a PR mouthpiece.
Link?
lastflowers
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I think it's hilarious how this has just flown under the radar, and gies is the story now. GAFers angry!
Cerebral Assassin
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Where are these homophobic slurs? If you are going to make accusations you should provide evidence, also given that this forum has age restrictions it has no need to abide by your puritanical standards so there is nothing wrong with the gif.
Also you seem to be ignoring the simple fact that if Gies wants an argument as to why an always online console is a terrible idea for many consumers why can he not ask one of his colleagues, surely they all can't be as incompetent as he appears to be?
Sensationalist headlines are cool as long as they fit your beliefs?
I knew this was going places when the thread first appeared last night. Was waiting on the first couple news stories. Very entertaining to watch this develop. Completely mismanaged, much like the development of windows vista and windows 8. I guess your products can't always be perfect. Surprised at no PR by now. I expected Microsoft to apologize and say they have no comment regarding always online.
Since they are keeping their silence I expect them to nix the always online requirement, delay the nextbox into 2014, and come out announcing the nextbox and touting how they "never were going to have always online".
Whether they take always-online out or not, I'm certain it does currently exist based on dev's dropping subtle hints: "Make sure you pay your ISP".
On the bright side if they remove it then all the bad press has improved their console, even if it requires you to have a camera/mic on you to function which is pretty creepy.
I still think there is a subsidized price point with a 2~ year live bundle that would probably net them more money in the long run than this current generation. They would/will sell less consoles, but converting to a 100% live subscription base (in order to use the console) ensures a lot more live subscribers and in turn, a lot more money with less investment.
Since they are keeping their silence I expect them to nix the always online requirement, delay the nextbox into 2014, and come out announcing the nextbox and touting how they "never were going to have always online".
Whether they take always-online out or not, I'm certain it does currently exist based on dev's dropping subtle hints: "Make sure you pay your ISP".
On the bright side if they remove it then all the bad press has improved their console, even if it requires you to have a camera/mic on you to function which is pretty creepy.
I still think there is a subsidized price point with a 2~ year live bundle that would probably net them more money in the long run than this current generation. They would/will sell less consoles, but converting to a 100% live subscription base (in order to use the console) ensures a lot more live subscribers and in turn, a lot more money with less investment.
I personally think GAF is overeacting a lot I the always online rumours have been from shitty sources. The only decent source was the documentation, where it says something about always online but didn't say it was mandotary. I reckon the always online stuff is similar to PS4, background updates, social features and etc. But it won't be mandatory. I ain't gonna overeact and keep posting why always online is shit because well it is quite obvious why its terrible. So far the only Durango rumours I beleive is that it will have Kinect and the specs of the machine that has leaked. Shit like mandatory always online hasn't had decent believable rumours in my opinion.
Also interesting (assuming this is the same awa64):
Oh my, Detective GAF, you're so dirty. I looooove it!
89% says no as expected.
Well aren't you just a precious little thing.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
EDGE online reported this and they nailed the PS4 specs. How is that a bad source?
Miles Quaritch
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Your clear lack of reading comprehension and understanding of my posts causes deep concern.
go ly down.
Yeah, considering people will pay for P2P gaming, lack of dedicated servers, still buying Diablo 3 and SimCity even though they were predictable clusterfuck launches, I can see a always on console do very well.
Chad Paulson
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I wonder how many times Gloria Estefan's "Get On Your Feet" had to play before Ballmer finally rolled out of bed this morning.
This is an excellent post.
What? Where?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Is there anyone out there that can actually find a consumer benefit for always online? I just don't see how it helps anyone besides the people making money.
I don't see anything wrong with that GIF that might violate TOS? Feel free to explain if you do and it's not against TOS to do so. *shrugs*Also interesting (assuming this is the same awa64):
It's a legendary GIF of GAF legend.
freenudemacusers
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not sure why people believe this
Uno Venova
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OK.
I'm trying to watch my recordings but I keep getting lost in this thread.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Also interesting (assuming this is the same awa64):
I don't get it. Why are they so salty?
Mystic_Wanderer
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awa64 spends his time defending Microsoft/Giles on Twitter.
Did Edge day it was mandatory to start a game or did they just say always online.
Can Crusher
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Fixed1979
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Yeah I don't know what the hold up is, you'd figure there'd be enough articles out there by now Polygon would have the pick of the litter for which one to "lift".
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Deleted member 17706
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So it's Microsoft's turn to get super arrogant toward their customers and go down in flames? Oh well.
Granted, this was a while back, but I remember bringing my PS2 up to my friends cottage whenever we'd get the opportunity during summer (the cottage was usually occupied by other family members also looking to get out of the city, but every so often it'd be empty). We'd play games late night (crazy Worms marathons) after being out all day hiking, swimming, and riding. An always online requirement would have deprived us of some great times, because as you guessed it, there's no fucking internet up there.
It's easy to snipe the worst posts and dismiss all of the valid majority while playing the victim card isn't it?
Gies at his best. As usual...
lol thats brilliant.
Voice of Reason
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...homophobic slurs?
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