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Miiverse improvements detailed (NWR)
- Thread starter radioheadrule83
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I can see two major uses for achievements - encouragement and bragging rights. The encouragement through traditional achievements was done via pop-up messages after you tackled some obstacle. Miiverse can do that too, I got many messages in NSMB:U after I finished something difficult or when I kept failing. It can even expand beyond that by letting you post messages or screenshots and get positive feedback to it. The bragging rights in traditional achievements was done by hording numbers and hoping your friends would see it - that system is present in Miiverse as well (Nintendo Land), and it even tries to encourage your friends to check out your stats. It also has sceenshot sharing, and Miiverse posts (which your friends can see). You beat the game - you can send a message to all of your friends and the chances of them seeing it is way higher than traditional achievements.
It is a vastly superior encouragement system and the bragging rights benefits are just as good, IMO. Nintendo just took a step back and tackled all of the obstacles individually rather than trying to create a generalized system that didn't look at what players actually liked about achievements. I think anyone complaining about this is just stuck in the past or looking for a bullet point to complain about.
is this new? what does it all mean? I am guessing now wii u doesn't really have an in game standardized multiplayer infastructure, and this possibly solves that issue?
GameCenterXDS
Member
Yep, Nintendo nailed it. Instead of having to go into a separate "achievements" page which not everyone does, your scores and thoughts on the game or whatever the developers want to do with it is shared seamlessly in this new way. It's so much better than X-box live to me, because I really like thinking about the people I play with online. I like seeing their Mii in Mario Kart when I first match up with everyone and seeing what part of the world they are from. This whole experience is what I love about Nintendo.
Jaded Alyx
Member
AGITΩ;51849843 said:
Blame Capcom.
I said this at launch, but they really need a search function, so that the same questions, answers and comments don't keep spamming the community over and over.
Addionally, people would find their answers much quicker, than waiting for other users to answer their posts, if they even get an answer at all.
But that's only if you expect or trust people to actually use the search funtion.
Addionally, people would find their answers much quicker, than waiting for other users to answer their posts, if they even get an answer at all.
But that's only if you expect or trust people to actually use the search funtion.
Jaded Alyx
Member
of course no handwritten posts, but why would a search function not work?
im not all that fussed with achievements themselves but what i do like is the fact the system keeps a record of every game you and your friends list have played/completed.
it wouldnt be so bad if the WiiU had a activity log like the 3ds that can be viewed over miiverse, but it doesn't
Smashkirby
Member
I feel like having a FAQ sub-community would be even better.
People ask questions, most asked questions with key words are shown first. Then layer a search function on top of that.
It's like how the Mario U now has a section that only the comments from the game get posted there.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Now that's interesting and unexpected. I wonder what kind of game that would be useful for?
This is what I'm looking forward to. A lot of gaffers are playing NFS at the moment. Having a GAF NFS Miiverse community would be very convenient for adding friends to compete against.
Having the activity log viewable for friends in miiverse would indeed be a nice Feature.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Weird sentence. The Wii U has it's own activity log. No need to say 'like the 3DS'.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
You... can't? I thought that worked in every game. Weird.AGITΩ;51849843 said:
radioheadrule83
Banned
I think I get what he might be trying to say...
It's not as in depth as the 3DS activity log, its missing things like the software library book, gameplay charts, average play session, week/month/year aggregation etc.
I'd like to see those things added, AND the ability to compare with online friends -- not just people on my machine.
Achievements encourage me to dump 200 hours into some game so yeah I'd rather not do that all the time
However i do wish miiverse had a way of cataloging BIG accomplishments such as breaking a huge score, finishing a game, etc., and letting people refer to them later in an easy way. So almost a pseudo-achievement system just without the crappy trophy count and/or percent bar that makes my epeen look so small -__-I mean I spent over 100 hours in Ni No Kuni and only have '40% completion' it's kinda embarassing
and I feel like i've done 95% of the stuff in that game. yeah, I don't feel like that's the best system for guaging things.Jaded Alyx
Member
Achievements encourage me to dump 200 hours into some game so yeah I'd rather not do that all the time
I mean I spent over 100 hours in Ni No Kuni and only have '40% completion' it's kinda embarassing
You kind of described the the feature in NSMBU like when you clear a stage in under 30 seconds and it asks you to comment on Miiverse. They could couple that with Miiverse tags, so people can easily find all the people who've achieved such a feat.
Yeah it's pretty useless as is.
Blame Crapcom!
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I will! *grumbles*
Is this really a photo of the panel?
Looks very... sad.
Edit: I hope it was the pre-event shoy, before the rest of the devs showed up.
According to John Harker, there was only around 10 people at the event.
Yeah...
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Damn.
Is this really a photo of the panel?
Looks very... sad.
Edit: I hope it was a pre-event shot, before the rest of the devs showed up.
Pretty sure it was confirmed to be a before/after presentation pic
Freezie KO
Banned
On the bright side, at least all their third parties were there to find out the new features.
brutal
CoconutTank
Member
Hmmm... so I wonder how sophisticated the boot from arguments capability will be. I guess a cool thing would be the ability to instantly share player created maps via Miiverse?
miiverse.execute(GAME_NAME, 'CustomMapSection', 11Q9t84690AAA8031279X);
Or else I guess instead of the jumbly ID a string with the actual map name could be provided if the strings could be guaranteed to be unique?
And assuming the jumbly ID is used I don't think the miiverse will make you put it in yourself, hopefully it will know well enough to automatically populate that field for you.
miiverse.execute(GAME_NAME, 'CustomMapSection', 11Q9t84690AAA8031279X);
Or else I guess instead of the jumbly ID a string with the actual map name could be provided if the strings could be guaranteed to be unique?
And assuming the jumbly ID is used I don't think the miiverse will make you put it in yourself, hopefully it will know well enough to automatically populate that field for you.
R_thanatos
Member
This is kinda cool ...
It's overall good improvements but they really should hurry to implement those for the users..
It's overall good improvements but they really should hurry to implement those for the users..
I need this.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
This all sounds great.
Though judging by the attendees, I think developers don't give 2 shits about Nintendo anymore. Who am I kidding they haven't given a fuck since the SNES lol.
Though judging by the attendees, I think developers don't give 2 shits about Nintendo anymore. Who am I kidding they haven't given a fuck since the SNES lol.
Hellsing321
Member
Being able to do match making within a private community would be awesome! Everyone should copy that one.
Schnozberry
Member
Yeah, the fact that all three presenters were talking to an audience member pretty much gave that away.