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Miles morales kinda sucks
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Well Miles is a baby compared to Jessica Drew, Kaine, Anya, Venom, Julia(Madam) and thats just the Spiders I can mention off head.
So hes not even the most successful Spiderman alt.
WarMachine, Thunderstrike, Jane Foster(FemThor shes now a Valkyrie and fights using Thors full Hammers style) are all still around.
But praising a character for being a good alt character isnt really a selling point because there arent very many alt characters in the first place.
Marvel really wants Miles to work so they will keep trying to force him on us but most people can see this character needs some serious help if he is going to go anywhere.
As for Ironheart....who is still around by the way and relegated to the same fate as Miles, her book didnt/doesnt work mainly because you cant really write a good story about a young black girl when you are a middle age white man with a bunch of middle age white men as consultants the chances of Ironheart not being CharacterX in black skin was like 0%.
P.S The Xmen books are and have been amazing dont slander them by blanketing them in a Marvel has been pretty shit statement.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Forgive the DP.
But yes thats the main issue with his performance in this game.
He tried to sound younger when I think he could have pulled it off without going as high as he did.
It reeks of quick localization anime game.
Arkam
Member
A few hours in and its still not clicking like the first game. Not sure if its lack of novelty or the additions to the combat (venom powers), or the similarly dull story and flat characters. Let me be clear, I am having fun and the game looks gorgeous on PS5, just not as fun as last time. Missions like "rotate the trains" do little add to the enjoyment.
But will reserve ultimate judgement for when I complete the main story. Who knows might turn around over the course like RD2.
But will reserve ultimate judgement for when I complete the main story. Who knows might turn around over the course like RD2.
ShigeruMiyamoto
Neo Member
I platinumed the first Spider-Man game and enjoyed Miles Morales throughout. They force you to do New Game Plus stuff for the Plat in MM though, so I'm not doing that.
Jethalal
Banned
Venom is miles better than Miles. He isn't Spider-Man though and hasn't had the mantle of Spider-Man. I don't just like him for being an alt, I genuinely think he is a great character and I loved the Bendis run and quite a few Avengers issues with him.Well Miles is a baby compared to Jessica Drew, Kaine, Anya, Venom, Julia(Madam) and thats just the Spiders I can mention off head.
So hes not even the most successful Spiderman alt.
WarMachine, Thunderstrike, Jane Foster(FemThor shes now a Valkyrie and fights using Thors full Hammers style) are all still around.
But praising a character for being a good alt character isnt really a selling point because there arent very many alt characters in the first place.
Marvel really wants Miles to work so they will keep trying to force him on us but most people can see this character needs some serious help if he is going to go anywhere.
As for Ironheart....who is still around by the way and relegated to the same fate as Miles, her book didnt/doesnt work mainly because you cant really write a good story about a young black girl when you are a middle age white man with a bunch of middle age white men as consultants the chances of Ironheart not being CharacterX in black skin was like 0%.
P.S The Xmen books are and have been amazing dont slander them by blanketing them in a Marvel has been pretty shit statement.
Marvel really wants Miles cause he is working. Kids are buying his toys, games, etc.
Ironheart was never popular and the character sucks IMO (hope MCU improves her).
Marvel sells more than 20 comics per week, 1 or 2 X-Men comics don't make up for the rest. They are good ( I haven't read 'em as not a huge X-Men buff) mostly due to Hickman and he can't write each and every Marvel comic.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
As soon as he started talking he pissed me off. Little goody two shoes with sign language and everything. I hope they get rid of him and bring back Peter.
Phin is even worse. That teenage girl is basically the strongest and smartest mind in the universe *roll eyes*
Phin is even worse. That teenage girl is basically the strongest and smartest mind in the universe *roll eyes*
Balducci30
Member
Huh? Why tho
Pretty dangerous opinion on Gaf.
Putonahappyface
Member
I really wanted to like Spiderman and Spiderman Miles Morales but I just found them both way to mundane and repetitive. Needless to say I won't be buying a third installment of the franchise.
drotahorror
Member
His voice is a bit annoying. Loved the game though, super fun. Also was glad you could turn those stupid ass podcasts off while swinging around. Days Gone does a similar thing but you can skip them alteast, can't turn them off.
Not black enough.
Arachnid
Member
Miles in the comics was whiney, weak, introverted, and super unlikable. His comic version is what made me hate the character. To make it worse, they killed off Ultimate Spider-man (arguably the best iteration of both Pete and Spidey, not even kidding) to make Miles.
The person he is in Into the Spider-verse is a straight up 180. He's outgoing, likable, funny, and relatable in the movie. Tbh the comics should just start emulating him.
Komatsu
Member
You mean the main character of the worst story arc in the whole history of Marvel Comics as a publishing enterprise?
hangdang69
Member
I couldn't even make it 2 hours into Spiderman on PS4 because Peter Parker was so fucking annoying. For some reason, the powers that be decided Peter Parker should turn into an annoying, walking, reddit quip machine. I just assume Miles Morales is more of the same. Can't stomach anything related to Spiderman these days because of it.
VAVA Mk2
Member
You previously come here from ResetEra?
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I haven't played MM but I thought, based on the original game that Miles would be a bit toned down with the comical quips. I mean his dad was murdered...it would have been awesome to see him take a bit of a darker perspective on crime in New York. Not like Batman or anything, but more...I dunno, serious?
apocaliptic
Member
You don't get it.
King_Mandu
Banned
I haven't played a Spiderman game since the...PS1 or PS2 days? I was just lobbing a mud pie into the mix. I gotta remember to put an /s or some other indicator of a joke because I'm not so good at the emails and internets.
MiguelItUp
Member
In my opinion and the time I've observed Miles as a character, he shined more in Spiderverse than anywhere else I've seen him. 
Tickle My Tendies
Member
I loved the game. Playing as Miles is way more fun than playing as Peter, IMO. I prefer the venom abilities over suit mods/gadgets
Troglodyte
Banned
Game was lackluster. I was talking about it with my friend today because I just finished it yesterday and was left underwhelmed especially after beating Spiderman remastered which was amazing
Arachnid
Member
Yeah, Ben was always kind of romanticized by the Spidey fanbase. There's a reason they killed him off and brought back Pete as the one and only.
IMO though, there are only a few acceptable alternate Spider people. One is 2099, just because he's more of a Batman Beyond situation. Also, I actually like Miguel as a character unlike Miles. I loved how he was written to be so wildly different from Pete in both personality and life situations. The other is Mayday Spider-girl, who is also a Batman Beyond type situation. That, and she's Petes daughter. She had her own unique personality, her own rogues gallery that didn't rip off Spidey's (mostly, she did do it here and there), and was so popular that she spawned her own Marvel Universe for a while.
Other than them though, Gwen, Miles, and whoever else can take a hike.
Batiman
Banned
What original PS4 game?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I’m not really into Miles Morales. I finished the first one back when it came out. I have nothing against the character except the “whoa dude” of becoming Spider-Man. I wanted something a bit more grounded after that original game. It’s fun for a while, but the missions are just so simple. It’s a cut of what the original was. It’s like playing 180-200 hours as Batman. Sooner or later you might get tired of being Batman.
Balducci30
Member
I mean the powers he has makes him more fun to play as I agree - it’s just his character and story that’s incredibly annoying to me - sometimes I want to yell at the screen. I dunno maybe I would’ve felt the same way about Peter in the last game I didn’t play as much of it.
SuperSaiyanWithDreads
Banned
The same reason racists went to go watch Black Panther in theatre
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I agree. I didn't find the character very endearing. I can't tell if it's it's weaker voice acting or that the story was a bit weak.
ScarletSpider
Banned
Let it out, it’s okay.
Balducci30
Member
Why did they?
EDIT: But regardless, no, that would be ridiculous and incredibly dumb to spend 50 bucks as opposed to the price of a movie ticket to play as a character I liked a lot from into the spider verse and then suddenly and bewilderingly be put off by the fact that he’s black. Perhaps some people get their rocks off doing that I don’t know.
But yeah I’m criticizing the character as portrayed in the game. i don’t see how it’s problematic to criticize a character on the merits of how they’re portrayed regardless of their skin/gender/whatever.
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Silent blades
Member
I can’t agree with that. Played the game twice. Loved every second of it.
DeeDogg_
Banned
Was waiting for this lol
mortal
Gold Member
but Miles is biracial lol
Half Latino, half black. He's not an African immigrant.
Nankatsu
Member
The original game release, not the remastered one.
Batiman
Banned
What’s the difference?
Brute
Member
Both Miles Morales and Marvel's Spider Man are examples of overhyped PlayStation exclusives that belong in a big pile of average with Days Gone and God of Bore.
Unfortunately I bought all of these games digital and I'm stuck with them. Meanwhile I'm having a load of fun playing Fenyx Rising, a game I didn't think I'd like.
Video games are weird.
Disclaimer: Bloodborne is a masterpiece though but everyone knows that.
Unfortunately I bought all of these games digital and I'm stuck with them. Meanwhile I'm having a load of fun playing Fenyx Rising, a game I didn't think I'd like.
Video games are weird.
Disclaimer: Bloodborne is a masterpiece though but everyone knows that.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I have only played Remastered but Miles was fine to me.. but god damn that game is chock full of the most boring un-skippable cutscenes and wasted animations.
I would skip 95% of them if I could.
A game that respects that some people don't like... puzzles.. and let's you.. skip or turn those off... does not respect that many gamers don't give 2 shits about watching Peter have another boring convo with Mary Jane.
Sony devs habit of forcing cutscenes, animations, long walky-talky portions of games... it gives me such a love/hate relationship with their games.
"Let's make a system where we don't have to hide loading behind long corridors.. then force you to watch numerous 2-3 minute cut scenes."
Fuck off Sony.
I would skip 95% of them if I could.
A game that respects that some people don't like... puzzles.. and let's you.. skip or turn those off... does not respect that many gamers don't give 2 shits about watching Peter have another boring convo with Mary Jane.
Sony devs habit of forcing cutscenes, animations, long walky-talky portions of games... it gives me such a love/hate relationship with their games.
"Let's make a system where we don't have to hide loading behind long corridors.. then force you to watch numerous 2-3 minute cut scenes."
Fuck off Sony.
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sncvsrtoip
Member
For me only disappointing is length and number of bosses/enemies from comic, other than that I enjoyd it more than original spiderman game (probably thx to betterr graphics and Miles new powers)
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Balducci30
Member
I agree - I didn’t play much of the first one but I basically stopped due to the unskippable story. They need to make it so you can easily skip this stuff if you want
Thomish
Member
But Peter is also a goody two shoes?
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