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Minecraft Switch details: 60fps, 13x bigger worlds than WiiU, WiiU world transfers
- Thread starter Cerium
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Pokémon never gonna happen. The way TPC manages the franchise is totally different to Nitnendo's
I'd say that the PC version is completely different to both the PE and console versions. The PC version is very much about things like dedicated servers, mod support, flexibility and being able to change anything. The crafting is simplified in the non-PC versions.
The console versions are...console versions. Every additional thing like skins are DLC.
Well, I still play from time to time but never really got into a lot of modding and you ll be surprised I haven't even did any alchemy or newer stuff then later betas. So if basic crafting is in and I play survival, explore caves, build track and just dig deep to find new locations I am in.
Whats Realms again? I remember when it was announced thinking it doesn't interest me at all. Whats the draw?
Persistent dedicated servers so you can build together with friends even if you're not all online at the same time. It's the best thing ever.
Oh right. Like you can do on pc. But you cant because consoles aren't pcs. Got it.
Neat!
Gaiaknight
Member
finally a great portable version of minecraft will definitely pick this up.
OMG please merge pocket and console... Though Sony will never accept Xbox live integration so their version will be siloed away
Then just java and everything else
Discokuningas
Member
I was just gonna ask about splitscreen framerate. I suppose we don't know yet. What about the splitscreen online play?
My understanding is that in previous games, splitscreen affected draw distance and not fps.
Which is why I'm not holding my breath.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I've only played Minecraft once at a friend's place, I didn't really understand it. I've played thousands of games yet I've ignored what is one of the largest of them all. I enjoyed Dragon Quest Builders so maybe now it's time for me to buy my first copy of Minecraft.
Herp Derpington
Member
Well it's available now for the Win10 version so you'd have to assume it's being prepped for consoles.
They emphasized that they wanted to get the game fully caught up with the other console versions, so I assume it'll get realms.
spyroflame0487
Member
I think it depends on what sort of player you are. There's something fun about survival mode where you're basically thrown into the wilderness and you have to start from scratch. I've been able to make really awesome settlements with my friends, which I think is where some of the fun comes from itself. Single player Survival might not be much fun at all.
On the flip side, just going out and building things is great. I've tackled cities, treeforts, giant settlements, and all sorts of other things. Again, its more fun with friends but this gets a lot of time out of me for being able to do it by myself.
I think it seems like a good possibility, especially if they can get online stuff working. Seems like the next step if they can but I don't know much about Switch's online infrastructure. If Nintendo isn't sharing what their online service will be with devs it'd probably be more difficult to expect it, especially if Nintendo forces them to do it through their app thing or something.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
I might pick this up depending on the price, been meaning to upgrade from my 360 version of Minecraft.
$30 and includes the Mario pack.
wasn't it 25usd on wiiu and everything else?
Smiles and Cries
Member
hopefully it sells well enough for them to want to keep updating it
It's like any other dedicated server platform. The person who wants to start a Realms server pays a monthly fee ($8 per month on PC on for 11 players) and it's free for anyone who joins that server.
Does MC ever not sell? That won't be a worry.
Smiles and Cries
Member
not a worry but it would be better if it sold enough to stay on the top 3 on the eShop for the next few years
there is no reason to give the developers any chance to deny updates
spyroflame0487
Member
Yep it was $30 (or $29.99 I guess) and included at the time the regular stuff plus I believe a handful of skin packs included, plus there were a few you could buy. In the time since then, they introduced the Mario and all the new Worlds, and I'm pretty sure the Mario skins were included in the free update.
Realms isn't on other console versions. It's only on PC and mobile. As such, it's unlikely it will be available on the switch.
It's coming though. Or so they claim.
Yes, in 2014 they said it will come. Still waiting.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
This will be the definitive version of Minecraft. This and MK8D alone will keep Switch selling well throughout the summer.
I think it will likely be good for switch sales, but calling it the definitive version of the game is a stretch when the ps4 and xbox one versions have larger map sizes and the PC version has infinite maps, modding, realms, and most importantly command blocks.
That being said, it would be amazing if this version one day got command blocks and realms. Having a version of actual full-on Minecraft on the go with real controls would be nice.
In Minecraft the world is generated by a bunch of random 3D noise functions, which take a XYZ coordinate and returns information about that block (empty or filled, which its made of, etc).
Starting with a seed number, the noise function always returns the same value for the same XYZ coordinates: the world is a mathematical formula. So it doesn't need to pre-generate anything and the player can travel for thousands of kilometers and the game just has to run the function to know how the world looks around wherever the camera is. This is how worlds can be "infinite" on smartphones.
The problem begins with the player starts modifying the world: those changes must be saved somehow, otherwise they would disappear after the player traveled too far and came back. On mobiles and PC, apps can do whatever the fuck they want with the storage space until they run out of it. Not so much on consoles: AFAIK console vendors place restrictions on how storage is used, and the way Minecraft is constantly hitting the HDD to write/read data clashes with that.
Therefore, on consoles Minecraft uses a more traditional save/load mechanic, where the world is loaded all at once when the player chooses to continue a game instead of whenever the camera moves around.
Online is another issue. AFAIK Minecraft on consoles uses P2P, not dedicated servers which can store worlds spanning several gigabytes and streams to players only the (modified) portions surrounding them. With a fixed size world, the whole world can be sent to a newly connected player in one go. It also enables host migration (though I don't know if console Minecraft supports this), since all players have the entire world.
Starting with a seed number, the noise function always returns the same value for the same XYZ coordinates: the world is a mathematical formula. So it doesn't need to pre-generate anything and the player can travel for thousands of kilometers and the game just has to run the function to know how the world looks around wherever the camera is. This is how worlds can be "infinite" on smartphones.
The problem begins with the player starts modifying the world: those changes must be saved somehow, otherwise they would disappear after the player traveled too far and came back. On mobiles and PC, apps can do whatever the fuck they want with the storage space until they run out of it. Not so much on consoles: AFAIK console vendors place restrictions on how storage is used, and the way Minecraft is constantly hitting the HDD to write/read data clashes with that.
Therefore, on consoles Minecraft uses a more traditional save/load mechanic, where the world is loaded all at once when the player chooses to continue a game instead of whenever the camera moves around.
Online is another issue. AFAIK Minecraft on consoles uses P2P, not dedicated servers which can store worlds spanning several gigabytes and streams to players only the (modified) portions surrounding them. With a fixed size world, the whole world can be sent to a newly connected player in one go. It also enables host migration (though I don't know if console Minecraft supports this), since all players have the entire world.
I mean, they are still updating the Vita version lol
Im_So_Pringles
Member
Imagine if Nintendo made an officially licensed Pokemon expansion with Pokemon catching and training on classic maps for Minecraft that was exclusive to the Switch. They would sell shit tons of Switches and copies of Minecraft!
Zero Chance of it happening, but it's interesting to think about!
Zero Chance of it happening, but it's interesting to think about!
Buggy Loop
Member
Will be the first time i dip back into minecraft since the early versions on PC.
I'm guessing that a LOT has changed since then?
I'm guessing that a LOT has changed since then?
Face buttons for camera control is a pretty common scheme for controllers with no right analog.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
I get you but having an HD, 60fps, closer to current gen World size, dual analogue version of the game available on the go will make it the definitive version to a lot of people.
Surprised it wasn't the full PS4/XBO version. Though I guess with the portable mode they wanted to make sure it ran well first and foremost. Seems like the better call. Just glad it's close to the PS4/XBO version though. The word size should be plenty for a lot of people. Good that transfers will be made possible.