CaviarMeths
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"Gimmick" is just a buzzword for "feature I don't like/don't care about." If you like the gimmick, it's called an "innovation."
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Minecraft: Wii U Edition Doesnt Allow Inventory Management On The GamePad
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"Gimmick" is just a buzzword for "feature I don't like/don't care about." If you like the gimmick, it's called an "innovation."
Wowfunhappy
Member
Welp. I was actually planning on buying this. Guess not anymore!
iamaustrian
Member
huh? how so?
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Christ.
Wowfunhappy
Member
This is simply, factually wrong. Assuming the Gamepad interface isn't somehow horribly broken, it's waaaaaay faster then bringing up a menu or pressing a button to cycle through a list.
skins?
We already know that its $30 because of the content packs it comes with.
Ban Puncher
Member
Wheres the $20 version for the 99% of people that wouldnt otherwise buy those garbage packs? Nowhere. Its like if S-E bundles in the DLC/Season pass for RoTR next year on PS4 and charges $90. Stupid. Defending it is dumb.
As is releasing this game without full gamepad support. Its like what the Wii U was made for.
Jonneh3003
Banned
The Spoony Hou
Member
Biggest bullshit I've ever heard (yes, hyperbole, sue me). Sigh, I've been waiting for a Wii U version of Minecraft to finally give it a try, BECAUSE of the freaking gamepad.
Guess I'll have to wait longer to see if there will be a patch.
Guess I'll have to wait longer to see if there will be a patch.
Possumowner
Member
Oh well that's an opportunity missed
I even said in the announcement thread it would be cool to see them utilize the gamepad.
Nope lets just port it with skins and call it a day.
By the way anyone who says this feature would just be a "gimmick" hasent played Wind Waker HD and seen how much this simple change improves gameplay.
Nope lets just port it with skins and call it a day.
By the way anyone who says this feature would just be a "gimmick" hasent played Wind Waker HD and seen how much this simple change improves gameplay.
neogaffer1
Banned
that sounds needlessly expensive and complicated. every other platform either lets you import community skins for free (pc) or buy skin packs for money that include several dozen skins for a few bucks (360, ps3, ps4, one). why would wii u users be stuck and required to buy a $12 amiibo for a single skin?
Wow what a piece of shit. Was planning to buy the game for the 4th time (originally bought it on PC, then Xbox 360 for multiplayer, then Xbox One for larger worlds) for Game Pad inventory management and map functionality. How they cheaped out so hard on is this port is insane, especially considering how popular the game is.
Stilton Disco
Member
Traditional inventory management:
Move thumb slightly to press button to bring up inventory. Move both thumbs slightly to navigate and make inputs. Maybe a finger or two also to use shoulder buttons if convenient. Move thumb slightly to press button to return to game.
Gamepad:
Move entire head to look away from screen. Move entire arm to release grip on one side of Gamepad, which if not braced against your lap or some other surface necessitates additional effort to grip the pad securely with the other hand. Move entire arm to either remove an additional stylus for input as intended, or use nail to tap at screen, requiring comparatively large movements from your entire arm. When finished, move entire arm back to allow gripping the Gamepad to use in the same manner as you were previously to control the rest of the game. Move entire head to look at the primary screen to return to game.
I mean, I get that you can move slightly faster and potentially make quicker inputs with the second touch screen, and that worked well for Zombie U, even if I felt nothing was lost when the mechanic was translated to the traditional same screen method for it's ports.
But the fact is you simply have to put in vastly more effort to achieve the same results, as well as using an entirely different means of interfacing with the game in doing so.
And that's without even getting into the need to use the terrible low res, poor image quality and less than 100% accurate resistive touch of the Gamepad's screen over you're inevitably better quality TV.
More power to you if you prefer it, but it's still a less efficient way of accessing and managing inventory than just pressing a button and using a controller in the same manner you use it for everything else.
I said more effort. Not faster. And even then, given how quick I get with using inventory with games by the end of them I'd argue there's not necessary that big of a speed increase.
Didn't you hear?! All of the mining is done using the motion sensor on the Wii Remote! Want to shovel some dirt? Pretend you are shoveling with the controller! Want to mine some iron ore? Pretend you are using a pickaxe! /s
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I would've thought the gamepad was the one and only way to give this version the edge over the PC/Playstation/XBox versions.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I imagine with the late release, small install base, and dwindling lifespan their priority at this point was to first get a working release out. If it's successful (and I think Nintendo skin/theme packs will be enough to ensure that) we'll probably see GamePad support down the line.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Fail.
Only included in the version that costs $40.
Auto-Reply
Member
Really? The one obvious feature that should be in there... lol
Or you could just use your eyes independent of your head to look down.
Or they could enable touch controls in Off TV Play so you wouldn't even have to move your eyes!
For Minecraft in particular it would be so much easier to just tap on your inventory on the touch screen to equip or craft items instead of having to cycle through your shortcut items with the shoulder buttons.
Storm Kyleis
Member
We're all used to it. It's not a valid excuse to avoid improving, when it's perfectly possible.
You spend a lot of time in the inventory in this game, just think about crafting - doing that while traveling or mining would be a huge time saver. A map would make sense too.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Isn't 4J doing the port, as per usual?
Mama Robotnik
Member
This is shambolic. The Wii U gamepad features could not be more adaptable to Minecraft. This could have been an astounding, unique release of the game - instead we have an expensive generic port.
Who makes decisions this lazy?
Who makes decisions this lazy?
It's a nice feature but I wouldn't call it superior to the PS4 /XB1 versions if it was technically inferior.
:Motorbass
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Hm, I don't think many people buy an Amiibo for a single game (when it doesn't have substantial content like Splatoon). Most people have Yoshi for example because they like Yoshi and many games give you a Yoshi skin or other content already and in the future.
They could still release special Minecraft Amiibos that unlock more stuff.
But it seems that Microsoft doesn't want this version to be so special.
