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[Kouriozan]

Hoping Piklopedia will be back.
Oh and Brittany <3

 

[Raxus]

Can't believe they were keeping this under wraps. Pikmin 3 was amazing. Shame these games don't get much love outside of Nintendo threads.

 

[jariw]

Because right now more than ever, the Wii U needs another entry in a series with mediocre sales.

What's different now compared to anywhere else during Wii U's lifespan? The Wii U has sold at pretty consistent levels, except during the slowdown the half year before MK8 and the boost of sales in Japan during the past months.

 

[ASIS]

Any news regarding Pikmin 4? Why did this thread get a bump?

 

[maxcriden]

Never underestimate Nintendo's ability to deliver a crappy array of launch-titles.

Surprised to hear you say this. You don't think Retro's game, Zelda Wii U port, and 3D Mario are a solid net for the launch window?

 

[Red Hood]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

wat

 

[TheMoon]

Is it possible thisis a 3ds game?

No. 0% chance.

Wishlist for Pikmin 3: Bring back better camera controls and dual analogue controls. Coop campaign online/offline. I would love to have product placement back for items.

Sorry to burst your bubble but none of these things are in Pikmin 3.

 

[SA Louisgod]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

Eshop only for a major first party title? Are you dumb?

Only explanation is that it's being made for the NX and will be shown off next year.

 

[Vinterbird]

Surprised to hear you say this. You don't think Retro's game, Zelda Wii U port, and 3D Mario are a solid net for the launch window?

So I'm curious. What's the evidence supporting Retro and Mario?

I can see Zelda happening, but has there been any talk at all supporting the other two?

 

[Mory Dunz]

Surprised to hear you say this. You don't think Retro's game, Zelda Wii U port, and 3D Mario are a solid net for the launch window?

So I'm curious. What's the evidence supporting Retro and Mario?

I can see Zelda happening, but has there been any talk at all supporting the other two?

Yeah I don't see both 3d Mario and Zelda releasing...and who knows about retro.

I'm not even convinced whatever console form of NX is coming next year.

 

[TheMoon]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

None of these things mean anything. Stop reading nonsense into things nobody knows anything about.

So I'm curious. What's the evidence supporting Retro and Mario?

I can see Zelda happening, but has there been any talk at all supporting the other two?

Retro = simply the time since their last game was done (Nov. 2013).
Mario = see previous page + also time since last major Tokyo project was done.

Those are the only real indicators people are going by.

 

[DoctorFling]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

Nintendo's idea of "very close to completion" could mean almost anything. I really doubt this game will be releasing on Wii U.

 

[Linkyn]

So I'm curious. What's the evidence supporting Retro and Mario?

I can see Zelda happening, but has there been any talk at all supporting the other two?

An argument can be made by looking at their past release trends and development times. Their last big projects were both finished by the end of 2013 (Tropical Freeze and 3D World), and they tend to release a game every 2-4 years, so if their next games aren't launch titles (which wouldn't be shown until the system itself is talked about), they seem predestined for the first year post launch at the very least.

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

A likely scenario is that it was pushed to NX, and that we'll see it when we get some proper information on the hardware.

Edit: It's interesting, though, because I still think in terms of their various EAD development teams in order to guess what announcements / releases might be coming, even though I'm not even really sure what their development structure as EPD looks like.

 

[jariw]

Eshop only for a major first party title? Are you dumb?

Only explanation is that it's being made for the NX and will be shown off next year.

Doesn't make sense at all IMO, related to what Miyamoto said at the investor meeting more than a year ago where he (AFAIK) first mentioned the next version of Pikmin.

Saying that the "only explanation" is that all unannounced products are made for the NX is just GAF logic. Pokken Tournament, TP: HD and Minecraft were unannounced products not long ago.

The most logical thing is another Wii U game, since the engine, assets and technology is in place, and a game UI that makes lots of sense for the hardware. It also means a cheaper development process, which is a thing that Nintendo loves.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

So if I understand correctly, the thread was bumped for no reason and now we're speculating on the game based on nothing. Is that right?

 

[KevinG]

So if I understand correctly, the thread was bumped for no reason and now we're speculating on the game based on nothing. Is that right?

That's GAF for you.

 

[Rodin]

Eshop only for a major first party title? Are you dumb?

Only explanation is that it's being made for the NX and will be shown off next year.

I think it will come out on both, but that means they probably won't show it until the NX reveal.

 

[Simbabbad]

My son loved Pikmin 3 so we got him 1 & 2 for Xmas. It was his favorite present. He was mad about the Wii controls at first but he got used to it. Never do that shit again Nintendo.

The controls of New Play Control Pikmin and Pikmin 2 were absolutely perfect, making those versions the best version of the games, by extremely far. The quickness and ease they allowed were amazing, it was a true liberation compared to the original controls, and the games felt like they were designed for them.

This was admitted in most reviews. Going back is, to me, inconceivable, just like for the original Resident Evil 4 controls.

Also, ridiculous and unwarranted bump of this thread, and the "everything needs to be on NX" fad is getting annoying and old already.

 

[iMax]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

Pretty common for a hardware launch. They're getting their games ready in time and sticking them on the shelf so they're ready to go in November.

 

[TheMoon]

A likely scenario is that it was pushed to NX, and that we'll see it when we get some proper information on the hardware.

No reason to assume this was ever intended to be for anything other than NX. Miyamoto was not talking about a platform, just that Pikmin 4 is a thing that exists.

So if I understand correctly, the thread was bumped for no reason and now we're speculating on the game based on nothing. Is that right?

Apparently it was brought up because the person who bumped the thread watched a Final Bosman episode where Pikmin 4 was mentioned.

 

[jariw]

No reason to assume this was ever intended to be for anything other than NX. Miyamoto was not talking about a platform, just that Pikmin 4 is a thing that exists.

Miyamoto said that the Pikmin movies was released on the Wii U/3DS eShops partly to make players more aware of the next game when it releases. Being on NX would make sense only if NX was intended as a direct replacement of the current systems already in 2014.

 

[Red Hood]

wat

Eshop only for a major first party title? Are you dumb?

Only explanation is that it's being made for the NX and will be shown off next year.

I specifically said it's just speculation and I'm probably wrong, but why throw insults? Besides, there's nothing too "major" about Pikmin. I don't even know if it hit 1 million worldwide and they sure as hell didn't reprint Pikmin 3 when it went out of stock almost everywhere.

Nintendo's idea of "very close to completion" could mean almost anything. I really doubt this game will be releasing on Wii U.

A likely scenario is that it was pushed to NX, and that we'll see it when we get some proper information on the hardware.

Edit: It's interesting, though, because I still think in terms of their various EAD development teams in order to guess what announcements / releases might be coming, even though I'm not even really sure what their development structure as EPD looks like.

Pretty common for a hardware launch. They're getting their games ready in time and sticking them on the shelf so they're ready to go in November.

That's most likely it, yes, but I was just speculating and thinking out loud.

 

[pringles]

I missed this thread originally. Very happy to hear Pikmin 4 is on the way. They have such a solid gameplay-foundation in this series so there's no reason they shouldn't be able to make new entries relatively quickly. They don't need to re-invent the wheel, just keep building on what they already have.

The Challenge mode in Pikmin 3 was insanely good, I hope in 4 they can bring some of those elements into the actual Campaign, which is a bit too short and easy in 3.

 

[Farmboy]

The controls of New Play Control Pikmin and Pikmin 2 were absolutely perfect, making those versions the best version of the games, by extremely far. The quickness and ease they allowed were amazing, it was a true liberation compared to the original controls, and the games felt like they were designed for them.

This was admitted in most reviews. Going back is, to me, inconceivable, just like for the original Resident Evil 4.

I really did miss moving around the Pikmin with the C-stick. That said, I agree that once the Wii controls click, it's hard to go back.

 

[SuperLeviathan]

Miyamoto said that the Pikmin movies was released on the Wii U/3DS eShops partly to make players more aware of the next game when it releases. Being on NX would make sense only if NX was intended as a direct replacement of the current systems already in 2014.

Wouldn't be a suprise. The first NX rumors started to surface then.

Noticably, both of the Wii U's upcoming first party games (Star Fox and Zelda) were announced or shown off at E3 2014 or earlier. That was the case this year as well (Splatoon, Mario Maker, Xenoblade). Clearly, anything that hasn't been shown yet is being withheld, otherwise we probably would have seen it at E3 this year.

 

[-Horizon-]

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if it is still a Wii U game and will release as one next year.

 

[SuperLeviathan]

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if it is still a Wii U game and will release as one next year.

If it was, why wouldn't they have shown it at E3 this year, like they did with Mario Maker in 2014?

If it is "close to completion" like Miyamoto says, they could at least have shown a trailer. That suggests to me that its NX-bound.

 

[Celine]

I heard DK is probably hovering around a million if digital and shipped-only sales are counted, which isn't great, but all things considered it's better than an outright bomb. Not sure on Pikmin.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=963700

 

[mr.beers]

No. 0% chance.



Sorry to burst your bubble but none of these things are in Pikmin 3.

Pikmin 4 my bad.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Dear god how did I miss this news

 

[Kieli]

This is a much better strategy than not knowing jack-shit about a game announced in 2013 when it's almost 2016.

 

[The_Lump]

I'm fine with this being bumped to NX if that's the case, but if that is the case I really hope it doesn't look like its a bumped up WiiU title, if you catch my drift.

 

[The_Intruder]

If it was, why wouldn't they have shown it at E3 this year, like they did with Mario Maker in 2014?

If it is "close to completion" like Miyamoto says, they could at least have shown a trailer. That suggests to me that its NX-bound.

Because Nintendo.

 

[Jelly Rajah]

Lol this is perfect

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Nintendo pretty frequently shows games at E3 and releases them later that year.

That said, never assume launch for anything. ANYTHING.

 

[TheSpaceBetween]

Never underestimate Nintendo's ability to deliver a crappy array of launch-titles.

I don't. Of course there will be crappy launch titles. And 3D Mario.

When did that actually happen before? Even if it happens the "there's no way" is total bs.

You have to think in terms development teams and their usual development cycles. Add that to the fact that the Wii U bombed and Nintendo knows the importance of a very strong launch, and how big of a part Mario plays in that. So yeah, total BS if it happens, even though we know Tokyo is the 3D Mario machine, Tokyo will have had three years to make it, and Nintendo needs Mario at the NX launch.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Anybody who thinks multiple games is finished and ready to ship for an unrevealed console is a fool. Pikmin 4 will be a Wii U game. Just bet on that.

 

[Tingle]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

...Its just probably being held off for E3.

 

[TheSpaceBetween]

Anybody who thinks multiple games is finished and ready to ship for an unrevealed console is a fool. Pikmin 4 will be a Wii U game. Just bet on that.

I'd gladly take Pikmin 4 as a Wii U game. The game looked and played tremendously on Wii U. They got an engine, and I'm sure a ton of left over ideas they couldn't get into Pikmin 3.

 

[Easy_D]

My hunch: they haven't shown us anything about it because it's gonna be an NX launch game.

Yeah that wouldn't be so odd. It could have the same graphics as Pikmin 3 touched up a bit, higher res and more wonderfully hi-res textures. That's the only thing about 3 that was lacking imo, the there was a huge gap between the ugly textures and the great ones (like the fruit, the pizza among others)

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

So four months ago it was "very close to completion", but it's still not officially announced. That doesn't show a lot of confidence in it, does it? No hype generating and no marketing whatsoever. I might even speculate that it's digital-only on eShop.

Who knows what's up with the game. It seems obvious a Pikmin 4 was being made and you should take vague statements like "close to completion" with a grain of salt.

 

[iMax]

Anybody who thinks multiple games is finished and ready to ship for an unrevealed console is a fool. Pikmin 4 will be a Wii U game. Just bet on that.

So Nintendo's teams have been working on... nothing? No.

 

[Diffense]

I got Pikmin 3 with that Mario Kart promotion. I played it a little but it's still in my backlog. I didn't play Pimin 1 but I played Pikmin 2 which was epic. I don't think I 100%ed it and I played it a lot. I'd definitely be interested in another game.

 

[SuperLeviathan]

Nintendo pretty frequently shows games at E3 and releases them later that year.

But we also have ample evidence of them showing off first party games a year in advance (the aforementioned Mario Maker, Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, and what was supposed to be Star Fox). Those are the most recent games to come out of EAD, and something like half of their combined Wii U output, so there's a pattern there too.

I'm talking first-party EAD games here, which Pikmin obviously is, not necessarily games made elsewhere.

 

[AniHawk]

But we also have ample evidence of them showing off first party games a year in advance (the aforementioned Mario Maker, Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, and what was supposed to be Star Fox). Those are the most recent games to come out of EAD, and something like half of their combined Wii U output, so there's a pattern there too.

I'm talking first-party EAD games here, which Pikmin obviously is, not necessarily games made elsewhere.

their moves with the wii u from 2013-2014 were done to make the platform look like it had as much support as possible. it's why xenoblade chronicles x was announced nearly three years ahead of its release in the united states too.

 

[ChainThomp]

Maybe Nintendo will look at the recent success of their games with online and add online multiplayer to Pikmin 4. Bingo Battle Online would be incredible.

 

[SuperLeviathan]

their moves with the wii u from 2013-2014 were done to make the platform look like it had as much support as possible. it's why xenoblade chronicles x was announced nearly three years ahead of its release in the united states too.

Nevertheless, if Pikmin 4 was a Wii U exclusive, and nearing the end of its development, we probably would have seen it or heard more about it already. With Zelda as 2016's big holiday title, late summer would be the most logical place to put Pikmin 4, if it were coming out for the Wii U.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

So Nintendo's teams have been working on... nothing? No.

I didn't say that. I just said whatever games there are for the NX are probably nowhere near done yet.

 

[iMax]

I didn't say that. I just said whatever games there are for the NX are probably nowhere near done yet.

I'm sure there's a bunch in post-production right now.