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Monster Hunter 4 - 3DS [No Port Begging]

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SappYoda said:
LOL

Fans ask for Dead Rising port for PS3 -> Make port for Wii.
Announce Resident Evil Portable for PSP -> Release it for 3DS.
Sell millions of Monster Hunter for PSP -> Release sequel for Wii.
Show Monster Hunter Portable 3 PSP emulation -> Release Monster Hunter 4 for 3DS.

Capcom really loves to troll playstation owners.

I seem to recall there being a story that SCEA basically asked Capcom America Branch for a PSP RE and they were told OK so Sony ran with it as far as saying a RE PSP Game coming and Capcom Japan was never asked
 
ShockingAlberto said:
It's Capcom

If they can port it, they will

But no one knows for sure yet what the details are. If Sony doesn't show Vita footage of this game tomorrow, whether it does eventually come to Vita or not, it will be hard to unring that bell.
Maybe its just getting late tonight, but the timing of this is baffling me. They've announced 2 major games in the series for the 3DS before anything at all has been announced for Vita... It's basically telling their fanbase to get a 3DS.

By itself, it makes sense... the announcement of 4 strengthens the brand's presence on the 3DS and helps 3G. But now Capcom is the position where they can't announce much for Vita without cutting into the hype they're building for 3G and at the same time not announcing anything can only put a major strain on their relationship with Sony.

They'd have had been better off keeping the mouth shout about MH4 until next. Then they could have announced 4 and P3G together and then everyone would have a reason to be happy. I'm well aware of Capcom love of screwing itself, but this really sounds like they're trying to make a statement.
 
The reactions are brilliant, lol.
I'm excited for this game regardless of platform and for those that moan about lack of console MH for mainline series: You really couldn't see this coming? MH is much more popular on portables in Japan. It's a Japanese franchise and Capcom will cater to the market accordingly. And for those saying it'll be on Vita, I expect MH4 will be exclusive to 3DS, however I'm pretty sure we will see Portable 4 for Vita (Would be funny if the naming convention was kept, with Vita being less portable than the 3DS) using the same assets, it's a shame that the fan base might be split.
 
JJConrad said:
Maybe its just getting late tonight, but the timing of this is baffling me. They've announced 2 major games in the series for the 3DS before anything at all has been announced for Vita... It's basically telling their fanbase to get a 3DS.

By itself, it makes sense... the announcement of 4 strengthens the brand's presence on the 3DS and helps 3G. But now Capcom is the position where they can't announce much for Vita without cutting into the hype they're building for 3G and at the same time not announcing anything can only put a major strain in their relationship with Sony.

They'd have had been better off keeping the mouth shout about MH4 until next. Then they could have announced 4 and P3G together and then everyone would have a reason to be happy.
This always happens. MGS Rising will be announced at a MS conference, then the next day be confirmed for Sony's platform etc.

Sony might as well hold the announcement for their conference if there is going to be one at all. Nintendo aren't going to sell two million 3DS's in the next twenty hours.
 
now i'm eager to see what they come up with for the vita version.

it might be an even heavier discrepancy than MGS 3DS and MGS3 Remaster on consoles.
 
kyubajin said:
F Crapcom, switching sides like changing clothes.

How are they "changing sides"? The franchise became successful on its own merits, and Sony has never done a single thing for it. Capcom owes Sony nothing. It's theirs and they can do what they want with it.
 
Augemitbutter said:
now i'm eager to see what they come up with for the vita version.

it might be an even heavier discrepancy than MGS 3DS and MGS3 Remaster on consoles.
That doesn't say much because MGS3 on 3DS and the HD ports both look like ass.
 
JWong said:
Sure it's huge, but Monster Hunter is every console's whore.

It's like announcing that 3DS has Peggle or something.
Does. Not. Compute.

The point is not that the franchise will likely be in some form on Vita as well, the point is that the franchise is not a portable Sony exclusive anymore, and even more relevant to the market is that it's going to be on 3DS *first*, and enthusiast now even know that they'll keep getting new iterations with an already announced MH4.
What was responsible for single-handely shifting the PSP's fate from zero to hero for the japanese public and what would have been a trump card for Vita as well, just got wiped away... Do the math. Capcom's telling their fans to get a 3DS, plain and simple.
No longer a choice to be made on whether to go for Nintendo's games OR for Monster Hunter. Now you have a platform that has everything in a package, Mario Land, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Kingdom Hearts... Basically only Square can now put some real weight behind the Vita now with a mainline Dragon Quest (totally unlikely, seems Nintendo got a lock on DQ and its relevant spin-offs) or Final Fantasy (probable). Even in the case of the most positive TGS outcome Sony could ever hope for, there's nothing they can do anymore to properly counter that unstoppable march of the franchises-that-matter,
 
Acosta said:
hahaha, wouldn't be that amazing?

Walls! Traps! Aerial defences! a small army to hold the beasts!

They could do a whole lot more to MH but then fans would complain that its not really MH and should be called something else. I would love them to mix up the fights a bit more.

Damn Capcom, now I have to think about getting a 3DS for 1 game. :D
 
antonz said:
That doesn't say much because MGS3 on 3DS and the HD ports both look like ass.
Everything looks like ass when compared to the Witcher 2.

As for the comparison, the difference in performance, and resolution is notably smaller, a PSV version of MH4 shouldn't even look as different as those MGS3s.

Shame we haven't seen the MGS Collection on PSV.
 
This time tomorrow you'll all be talking about how the MHP3rd HD port will skyrocket Vita sales out of the gate, and how much better MH4 looks on the Vita and nobody would buy it for the 3DS yadda yadda.
 
Dash Kappei said:
Does. Not. Compute.

The point is not that the franchise will likely be in some form on Vita as well, the point is that the franchise is not a portable Sony exclusive anymore, and even more relevant to the market is that it's going to be on 3DS *first*, and enthusiast now even know that they'll keep getting new iterations with an already announced MH4.
What was responsible for single-handely shifting the PSP's fate from zero to hero for the japanese public and what would have been a trump card for Vita as well, just got wiped away... Do the math. Capcom's telling their fans to get a 3DS, plain and simple.
No longer a choice to be made on whether to go for Nintendo's games OR for Monster Hunter. Now you have a platform that has everything in a package, Mario Land, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Kingdom Hearts... Basically only Square can now put some real weight behind the Vita now with a mainline Dragon Quest (totally unlikely, seems Nintendo got a lock on DQ and its relevant spin-offs) or Final Fantasy (probable). Even in the case of the most positive TGS outcome Sony could ever hope for, there's nothing they can do anymore to properly counter that unstoppable march of the franchises-that-matter,

Did people not expect this? It was always going to go multiplatform.
 
EatChildren said:
This time tomorrow you'll all be talking about how the MHP3rd HD port will skyrocket Vita sales out of the gate, and how much better MH4 looks on the Vita and nobody would buy it for the 3DS yadda yadda.

Doubtful.

A comparable announcement would be like square announcing that Dragon Quest X is going to be on the vita as well. Plus MH4 is likely using the same assets on both systems if they are indeed the same game, it probably won't be as beautiful in comparison to other games on the system as it will be on the 3DS.
 
EatChildren said:
This time tomorrow you'll all be talking about how the MHP3rd HD port will skyrocket Vita sales out of the gate, and how much better MH4 looks on the Vita and nobody would buy it for the 3DS yadda yadda.
Haha, so true. The flip flop in perceived momentum has been interesting to watch on GAF since the 3DS was first announced :D
 
EatChildren said:
This time tomorrow you'll all be talking about how the MHP3rd HD port will skyrocket Vita sales out of the gate, and how much better MH4 looks on the Vita and nobody would buy it for the 3DS yadda yadda.

We know about MHP3rd on Vita already, but I still don't get why people are saying MH4 on Vita. Is there some news I am missing or is this just an assumption based on Capcom's previous actions?
 
EatChildren said:
This time tomorrow you'll all be talking about how the MHP3rd HD port will skyrocket Vita sales out of the gate, and how much better MH4 looks on the Vita and nobody would buy it for the 3DS yadda yadda.

3rd HD has terrible word of mouth on PS3, it won't help a lot.

+ We don't know if MH 4 will be on Vita.
 
MLH said:
We know about MHP3rd on Vita already, but I still don't get why people are saying MH4 on Vita. Is there some news I am missing or is this just an assumption based on Capcom's previous actions?
Technically we know about neither.
 
Magicpaint said:
Haha, so true. The flip flop in perceived momentum has been interesting to watch on GAF since the 3DS was first announced :D

It's been downright bizarre. Literally up-and-down like a jack-in-the-box.
 
EatChildren said:
This time tomorrow you'll all be talking about how the MHP3rd HD port will skyrocket Vita sales out of the gate, and how much better MH4 looks on the Vita and nobody would buy it for the 3DS yadda yadda.

Normally I´d agree, but what goes against MH4 Vita is that trailer that was shown - clearly using the 3DS´ hardware. Unless Capcom made two announcement trailers, each using its respective hardware´s power (which would be weird as well), I don´t see them announcing MH4 for PSV.
 
Paracelsus said:
Doesn't mention Sony in general or Vita in particular. Also doesn't specifically talk about MH4, but about the IP as a whole. Which obviously is on various different platforms. Doesn't mean that individual games are, or that MH4 will be. If MH4 will be on more than one platform, it might just as well be 3DS and Wii U and that's it. We don't know yet and Capcom hasn't said anything yet.
 
Paracelsus said:
That actually doesn't confirm anything because they point out the franchise itself has been strengthened by being on multiple platforms. IT does strongly hint that MH games will be on more than one device but what games is anyones guess.

As it stands now the leaks which have been basically perfect say Vita gets Portable3rd HD so in that way the franchise is multiplatform.

That said I dont think its impossible that Vita will get MH4 but I would be surprised as it would make more sense to have 2 distinct lines rather than splitting one games userbase
 
Having two series' makes no sense to me. You're splitting the user base exactly the same way, but you're significantly increasing the development budget.
 
Sennorin said:
Normally I´d agree, but what goes against MH4 Vita is that trailer that was shown - clearly using the 3DS´ hardware. Unless Capcom made two announcement trailers, each using its respective hardware´s power (which would be weird as well), I don´t see them announcing MH4 for PSV.

If capcom is putting MH4 on Vita they will just port it and up the res and that will be it.
This is capcom we are talking about no need to make a new trailer for it .

I can't rule out anything with Capcom i can see them making 2 MH games sharing assets with different names for each system .
 
gundamkyoukai said:
If capcom is putting MH4 on Vita they will just port and up the the res and that will be it.
This is capcom we are talking about no need to make a new trailer if that what going to happen.

sure, but folks are speculating that MH4 PSV might be announced at Sony´s conference today. So unless Capcom has an alternative trailer with PSV-graphics, I doubt it´s going to happen today.
 
Daschysta said:
Doubtful.

A comparable announcement would be like square announcing that Dragon Quest X is going to be on the vita as well. Plus MH4 is likely using the same assets on both systems if they are indeed the same game, it probably won't be as beautiful in comparison to other games on the system as it will be on the 3DS.

not comparable. MH has been on almost every platform, while DQ is sticking to one at a time.
 
Hey! How's about them new gameplay elements in MH4?

Looks much more free form in terms of gameplay. You have an emphasis on platforming, climbing (SOTC style!), large scale (and highly interactive) environments where monsters seemingly hunt you down continuously (no more zones?!)

Seems to be quite a big shift in terms of gameplay!

I can't wait myself! Seems to be the biggest leap forward for the series since MH1!
 
Me and my girlfriend recently got into Monster Hunter. We fell in love with this game and play whenever we have time to do so. I'm ready to play it on the 3DS but I wish it'd come to Vita as well. We both plan on buying a Vita as soon as possible and the high resolution would really imrove the game in my opinion. I see why Nintendo wants to have it on the 3DS but I don't see any reason why anyone would prefer it to a Vita version.
 
StuBurns said:
Having two series' makes no sense to me. You're splitting the user base exactly the same way, but you're significantly increasing the development budget.
If anything they could approach it like Pokemon where the base game is the same for both but theres different things in each version.

From a sales standpoint sure splitting the base probably doesn't matter cause 5 million sold is 5 million regardless of console split but I just dont see it healthy and it certainly hurts Sony more than it does Nintendo
 
French said:
3rd HD has terrible word of mouth on PS3, it won't help a lot.

+ We don't know when MH 4 will be on Vita.


corrected for accuracy, come on 4G on vita with slightly upressed assets is easy money down the line and everyone knows it will happen. only the most blind fan boy would bet otherwise.

can't wait for some MH-ing 3DS loving next year :D just need to hurry up and announce the console redesign and i'll be set
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Hey! How's about them new gameplay elements in MH4?
I actually really disliked the trailer in terms of gameplay. How are you meant to experience that with friends? It looked really clunky too, it seriously looks like Dragon's Dogma, and I don't care about that game at all.

I will be surprised if it's representative of the game that ships.
 
If Monster Hunter 4 makes it to Vita, it will be called Monster Hunter Portable 4 and it will be a sightly different game than MH4 for 3DS the same way MHP3 is different from MH3.
 
Slime said:
How are they "changing sides"? The franchise became successful on its own merits, and Sony has never done a single thing for it. Capcom owes Sony nothing. It's theirs and they can do what they want with it.
I know, but considering it was born on the PS2 and became the most popular PSP game in Japan, only to have Capcom decide to screw those loyal fans and release Tri on Wii (switching it from a PS3 release) and now 4 on 3DS.

Also all the PSP packs with MonHun and the likes must imply Sony does care for the franchise.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Hey! How's about them new gameplay elements in MH4?

Looks much more free form in terms of gameplay. You have an emphasis on platforming, climbing (SOTC style!), large scale environments where monsters seemingly hunt you down continuously.

Seems to be quite a big shift in terms of gameplay!

I can't wait myself! Seems to be the biggest leap forward for the series since MH1!
We are having a system war here dude. No gameplay discussion allow!
joking
 
SappYoda said:
If Monster Hunter 4 makes it to Vita, it will be called Monster Hunter Portable 4 and it will be a sightly different game than MH4 for 3DS the same way MHP3 is different from MH3.
Why? That makes no sense
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Hey! How's about them new gameplay elements in MH4?

Looks much more free form in terms of gameplay. You have an emphasis on platforming, climbing (SOTC style!), large scale (and highly interactive) environments where monsters seemingly hunt you down continuously (no more zones?!)

Seems to be quite a big shift in terms of gameplay!

I can't wait myself! Seems to be the biggest leap forward for the series since MH1!

Will be interesting to see how this all translates when you have 4 players running around. :D
 
Slime said:
How are they "changing sides"? The franchise became successful on its own merits, and Sony has never done a single thing for it. Capcom owes Sony nothing. It's theirs and they can do what they want with it.

Releasing hardware not from 1996 is not a merit?
 
vicissitudes said:
I want Capcom to announce a MonHun4 HD for the Vita just for the gaf reactions.

If a tree fell in the woods and no one was around to hear it, would anyone in the West outside of a certain niche base care about the 3DS or PSP2 versions?

No, they wouldn't.

Great for... Japan, I guess. But I'm still waiting for the 3DS revision that puts it on par with the PSP2 for me. :/
 
antonz said:
If anything they could approach it like Pokemon where the base game is the same for both but theres different things in each version.

From a sales standpoint sure splitting the base probably doesn't matter cause 5 million sold is 5 million regardless of console split but I just dont see it healthy and it certainly hurts Sony more than it does Nintendo

I can see capcom doing something like that .
Some people would buy both version which is even more sales .
Still at the end of the day this is going to hurt Sony but everyone should have know this was coming .
 
Chuck Norris said:
Why? That makes no sense

From a consumer perspective it doesn't, we don't like getting screwed over. But if MHP4 was different enough from MH4 people would want to buy both rather than picking up one version.
 
SappYoda said:
LOL

Fans ask for Dead Rising port for PS3 -> Make port for Wii.
Announce Resident Evil Portable for PSP -> Release it for 3DS.
Sell millions of Monster Hunter for PSP -> Release sequel for Wii.
Show Monster Hunter Portable 3 PSP emulation -> Release Monster Hunter 4 for 3DS.

Capcom really loves to troll playstation owners.
Very few companies baffle me like Capcom.
 
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