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Monster Hunter 4 - 3DS [No Port Begging]

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Orayn said:
Capcom don't care, much like honey badgers. It was cheaper and easier to develop it on the Wii, and they still made a decent amount of money off of it.
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Don't compare Capcom to honey badgers. Those are actually awesome.
 
The trailer felt a lot like a remix of Drake's Fortune and God of War. I wasn't a big fan of either, so I'm not sure how I feel about seeing those climbing and riding mechanics in a MH game.

I guess I'm glad that the hunters aren't driving around in monster hunter trucks.
 
Mpl90 said:
Guys, we should start remember our beloved Sammy Samusu
Probably, he died after the announcement :(
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Oh, he's super happy alright. He's fighting the good fight on another (brazilian) forum right now. When the announcement first came (Monster Hunter 4) he kinda stopped posting for several minutes, I admit I got worried for a moment. :P
 
jesus fuck this thread,

special mention to kyubajin and honor and shame and foot shooting

And Momo, MH is also my most played game this gen :)
 
Aww is there still bickering? I've been avoiding this thread since last night in hopes that things would settle and we could actually talk about the game.
 
PounchEnvy said:
Aww is there still bickering? I've been avoiding this thread since last night in hopes that things would settle and we could actually talk about the game.
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Let's talk about how sweet it is that the wyverns can now crawl up cliff sides, and you can jump onto their backs and hack away...
 
PounchEnvy said:
Aww is there still bickering? I've been avoiding this thread since last night in hopes that things would settle and we could actually talk about the game.
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Just another 9 hours or so until the port begging becomes bannable. Things should quiet down then.
 
The problem is that this was a concept trailer, there isn't much we can talk about based on that. Sure we can throw a couple of nice ideas out there, but nothing concrete

The impact this game has on 3DS, PSV and subsequent MH games is more interesting to most people, after this initial shock and some new info there'll be more to talk related to the game itself, just don't expect to come back to this thread tomorow and find a nice discussion about gameplay mechanics and how the world works in MH4.

Even if MH4 gets announced for the PSV I doubt there will be new material to grab on to
 
Boney said:
jesus fuck this thread,

special mention to kyubajin and honor and shame and foot shooting

And Momo, MH is also my most played game this gen :)
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Sorry if voicing my opinion and concerns affected you mate.
 
You know what this trailer more likely confirms is that Tigrex is going to be in Tri G. To bother modeling it for 3DS hardware and not use it in G would be weird.
 
PounchEnvy said:
I don't like the back riding thing. Seems a but unnecessary although your posts sounds like it's sarcastic so I don't know.
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Not at all, I can't wait for that. Hopping on the back sounds like a good way to get a buddy to chop the tail for a few hits....


<3 MH
 
God, the Vita dead posts are so annoying. I know MH is huge in JP land but one game will not make or break an entire system spanning years on the shelves. Vita will have some type of exclusive game or games and then everyone will just retract their statements or just forget they even made them at all.

But whatever, this is NeoGaf dude, etc etc.
 
AndrewDean84xX said:
You think Nintendo has convinced Capcom to make Monster Hunter for Nintendo exclusivly now?
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Nope.

But it honestly doesn't matter, it's no longer not-Nintendo handhelds. That's a bigger deal than people want to let it seem.
 
AndrewDean84xX said:
You think Nintendo has convinced Capcom to make Monster Hunter for Nintendo exclusivly now?
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They have the money to, but it would be a deal so expensive it wouldnt be worth the negligible gain. Its no longer exclusive to PSP, thats a big enough blow as is. Why pay even more for full WiiU 3DS exclusivity beyond that. Better off taking the rest of that money you have decided to spend and secure some other titles.
 
BlueSummers said:
God, the Vita dead posts are so annoying. I know MH is huge in JP land but one game will not make or break an entire system spanning years on the shelves. Vita will have some type of exclusive game or games and then everyone will just retract their statements or just forget they even made them at all.

But whatever, this is NeoGaf dude, etc etc.
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You know, Monster Hunter was the game that gave life to PSP in Japan.
 
Cipherr said:
They have the money to, but it would be a deal so expensive it wouldnt be worth the negligible gain. Its no longer exclusive to PSP, thats a big enough blow as is. Why pay even more for full WiiU 3DS exclusivity beyond that. Better off taking the rest of that money you have decided to spend and secure some other titles.
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Capcom does not seem to necessarily deal in moneyhats for Monster Hunter, but rather sweetheart deals.

MHTri came to Wii because Nintendo agreed to make strides to sell MH outside of Japan. Portable 3rd was able to get a PS3 version because Sony did a bunch of the legwork and Capcom essentially half-assed the PSP -> PS3 port but still did something like 300k the first day.

If Capcom was really happy with how Tri did under Nintendo's marketing umbrella, that may be a key part of considering how the franchise moves in the future.
 
AndrewDean84xX said:
You think Nintendo has convinced Capcom to make Monster Hunter for Nintendo exclusivly now?
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I think they've convinced Capcom to keep the original series exclusive. The Frontier and Portable subseries are free game, but the core series is probably going to stay Nintendo only.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
Nope.

But it honestly doesn't matter, it's no longer not-Nintendo handhelds. That's a bigger deal than people want to let it seem.
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A lot od Sony loyalist do want to downplay Monster Hunter Tri and 4 going to the 3DS. Kind of sad that they can't just be happy for Nintendo instead of being bitter fanboys.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
Capcom does not seem to necessarily deal in moneyhats for Monster Hunter, but rather sweetheart deals.

MHTri came to Wii because Nintendo agreed to make strides to sell MH outside of Japan. Portable 3rd was able to get a PS3 version because Sony did a bunch of the legwork and Capcom essentially half-assed the PSP -> PS3 port but still did something like 300k the first day.

If Capcom was really happy with how Tri did under Nintendo's marketing umbrella, that may be a key part of considering how the franchise moves in the future.
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This is just my assumption, but if Tri G and 4 were originally envisioned as Wii games, its much easier to transition to the 3DS. Much cheaper for Capcom.
 
AndrewDean84xX said:
A lot od Sony loyalist do want to downplay Monster Hunter Tri and 4 going to the 3DS. Kind of sad that they can't just be happy for Nintendo instead of being bitter fanboys.
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I'm happy for Ninty, I just want a PS3/PSV MH game that isn't a port.
 
BlueSummers said:
But that doesn't mean vita is DEAD. Especially months before it even releases.
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Of course not, but don't underestimate the power of Monster Hunter in Japan. This was a big move from Nintendo.
 
AndrewDean84xX said:
A lot od Sony loyalist do want to downplay Monster Hunter Tri and 4 going to the 3DS. Kind of sad that they can't just be happy for Nintendo instead of being bitter fanboys.
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That's because they're the kind of sad, loathsome creatures who care more about platform than the actual games. I shake my head at them just like the people who get upset about Dark Souls being ported to Xbox 360.
 
Orayn said:
That's because they're the kind of sad, loathsome creatures who care more about platform than the actual games. I shake my head at them just like the people who get upset about Dark Souls being ported to Xbox 360.
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DSouls isn't getting graphically downgraded (or stuck, it's all the same at this point) nor its controls will still be incomplete due to that move.
 
Orayn said:
That's because they're the kind of sad, loathsome creatures who care more about platform than the actual games. I shake my head at them just like the people who get upset about Dark Souls being ported to Xbox 360.
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Oddly I actually saw a lot of 'PS3 fans' happy Dark Souls is multiplatform because they felt Sony didn't treat Demon's Souls properly by not publishing it themselves.

I don't think anyone is pretending MH isn't a big deal. Tri G wasn't, but 4 certainly is. The question is just how big of a difference will it make. If Sony announce it for PSV tonight, it's still well into the win for Nintendo, because they got a franchise they didn't (on handhelds), and it's very big, but the PSV isn't hanging in the balance based on Monster Hunter. For all we know another game will come out of no where, be exclusive to one of them and define it this generation like monhun has did last time.

Anyone pretending this is irrelevant is an idiot, as is anyone who pretends this solidifies the death of PSV.
 
lunchwithyuzo said:
I think they've convinced Capcom to keep the original series exclusive. The Frontier and Portable subseries are free game, but the core series is probably going to stay Nintendo only.
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If nothing else, the Portable branding is probably dead, since it no longer makes any logical sense when the mainline series is being designed for handhelds.
 
I think that Capcom wants to keep MH mostly exclusive for Nintendo system, because they have interest to see the series grow in the west.

Seeing MHTri's great success in the west (1 million I think?) is probably making Capcom very happy, and seeing the direction MH4 is taking, it is very possible that they have very big plans for the west's sales.

They will keep making MH for other consoles as well; it's not like Capcom is allergic to money; but it's very possible that VITA will not see a full MH game; it'll probably get new games with reused assets of old games, but the new games will probably stay Nintendo exclusive.

Let's remember that MHP3 is not MHTri, and it isn't going to be released on the west.

This deal is not strange with Nintendo; S-E seems to have done the same kind of deal with DQ (and I think DQIX sold very good too, on it's own).

Now if MHTri 3DS flops in Japan and the port of MHP3 VITA sells millions, then the situation might change, but as things are now, it's probable that the MH future will stay on Nintendo's hardware.

If 3DS's MH games outperform VITA's MH games, then I see no future for the VITA in Japan, and seeing that japanese games supported the PSP on the end, I don't see a good future for the VITA (and I'm pretty sure SONY knows this, this is why they are trying to push western games on the handheld).
 
schuelma said:
This is just my assumption, but if Tri G and 4 were originally envisioned as Wii games, its much easier to transition to the 3DS. Much cheaper for Capcom.
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My personal theory is that Tri G was probably going to be a Wii game when Nintendo approached them and asked them to make it for the 3DS instead.
 
lunchwithyuzo said:
I think they've convinced Capcom to keep the original series exclusive. The Frontier and Portable subseries are free game, but the core series is probably going to stay Nintendo only.
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Capcom generally doesn't give news about their plan for future MH games until they're sure that the news won't affect sales of any current or very near term, future MH games.

If we have no news about a vita version five weeks after the release of Tri G, then it's probably a sure thing that a vita version isn't happening. I think this is roughly as likely as MH 4 also having no way of playing online.
 
Father_Brain said:
If nothing else, the Portable branding is probably dead, since it no longer makes any logical sense when the mainline series is being designed for handhelds.
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If Capcom thinks they can juggle to both they will. Especially if they're splitting them between unique platforms. Their release schedule for the series has been roughly one new entry per year alternating back and forth. Its been working beautifully for them so far, I don't see them quitting that anytime soon.
 
schuelma said:
This is just my assumption, but if Tri G and 4 were originally envisioned as Wii games, its much easier to transition to the 3DS. Much cheaper for Capcom.
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I think there's a good case for this. SD assets also mean a PSP Portable 4th is an easier proposition.

MH's core market is Japan, all decisions are going to be made around Japan, and right now a HD MH just doesn't make sense for Japan. The entire HD market combined hasn't even managed a 10 million combined userbase. With SD they still at least have Wii @ 12m and PSP @ 18m to fall back on, even if 3DS is stuggling upfront.
 
AndrewDean84xX said:
Which would be a bigger deal in the end, Monster Hunter 4 going exclusive to the 3DS or Final Fantasy VII remake exclusive for the Vita?
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a new game or another remake, let me think about it ...
 
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