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Monster Hunter 4 - 3DS [No Port Begging]
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Disagree with that. 3DS seems to be the one still looking for an identity, the 3D wasn't a big hit as initially expected and now we have this second analog add-on. The online functionality, while better, is not the best solution, it's pretty middle of the road. PSV on the other hand seems to have everything in place, but needs time to prove itself. Like get2sammyb said, some of its new features might be underused in the long run, we just have to wait and see what comes out of it.F#A#Oo said:
kyubajin
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My only complaint is that they're forcing their fan base to get another console from a competitor even after the wide success they enjoyed in the 1st platform to begin with.jchap said:
If the whole MH mythos was created on PSP, it's only natural for PSP owners to want to upgrade to PSV and not 3DS.
Also, unlike the case of Final Fantasy going from SNES to PS instead of N64, the PSV seems a more capable machine for the job, especially in regards to online play. But hey, it's Capcom.
EmCeeGramr
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY4hy0TiHEM
Just watch this video and see if your mouth doesn't drop when you see the village, the first zone he enters, and the monster he eventually ends up fighting.
Just watch this video and see if your mouth doesn't drop when you see the village, the first zone he enters, and the monster he eventually ends up fighting.
EmCeeGramr
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hint: he goes to an ice area filled with velociraptor models probably taken from some other game but colored blue, then he fights a bigger version of the model but it has a frill and shoots freezing white stuff from its mouth that slows you down (it has a frill because their stolen version of a great baggi is just a recolor of whatever their stolen version of a great jaggi is)
Neoriceisgood
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Serious question time,
I've never really played Monster Hunter, any of it; What makes this title so "big" ?
I noticed everyone being super impressed by this and the Tri G one coming out for the 3DS, but I really really have no idea what the big appeal is.
A quick explanation would be appreciated!
I've never really played Monster Hunter, any of it; What makes this title so "big" ?
I noticed everyone being super impressed by this and the Tri G one coming out for the 3DS, but I really really have no idea what the big appeal is.
A quick explanation would be appreciated!
StuBurns said:
i think the public will favour the 3DS over the Vita, when the redesign comes anyway. In Japan they will because it has all the franchises they want. In the west the cheaper price, greater variety of software
As for 3DS software, both first and third party support blows the Vita away. third parties are putting exclusive and varied stuff on instead of multiplats and monster hunter clones. nintendo are putting all their best devs and franchises on instead of watered down, farmed out spinoffs of games from an unpopular console.
sony had a real chance to capitalise on nintendo's mistakes with the vita. they completely failed to do so
Infinite_Daremo
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I got Hunter Blade. Its just Monster Hunter, the starts really easy though, even dual blades one shot most enemies. It also supports the 360 controller and its in English. Doesn't matter if its a rip-off its the only HD Hunter experience were gonna get in EU/US sadly for a long time.
Mechanized
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Neoriceisgood said:
The combat is based on skill, memorization of enemy behavior, and preparation. You really feel like you're going out to hunt a monster, not just kill some generic enemy. All the animations have weight and heft so the game has a very unique feel. When you finally kill a monster that took you ages to fight, you get to skin it and reap the rewards. It's very visceral and satisfying. There are tons of "oh shit" moments during these fights where one mistake can potentially ruin everything, but it doesn't feel unfair.
I don't feel you can really get a good grasp on what the game is and what it has to offer until you slay Tigrex for the first time.
EmCeeGramr said:
Looks good, i dont see the issue here.
Free to play Monster Hunter on the PC in English (well English version is coming), what more can i want? It's Capcom's fault for having their heads in the sand, ingoring the PC fanbase and not doing this earlier. I'm aware there is Monster Hunter on PC in Japan, but i can't play that can't i?
Also it runs in 60FPS plus!
Lance Bone Path
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It will be Capcom's fault that they let a clone-maker get a foothold in EU/US.Infinite_Daremo said:
Too bad for poor, poor Capcom that their slowness at localization created such a huge window of opportunity on the PC. I wouldn't begrudge the clone-makers for filling the other voids as well.
SmokedMeat
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kyubajin said:
Capcom did this with Resident Evil.
But yeah, there's no doubt Monster Hunter 4 EX Super DX will be on Vita, and maybe consoles as well. This isn't going to be a one system series anymore.
I'm just confused as to why Capcom would announce this hot on the heels of their previous MH announcement? Why would I buy the Tri port when I know MH4 is coming? Makes no sense to me, unless Nintendo requested they announce it way early to try and take the wind out of Vita's sails.
DaSorcerer7
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ShinUltramanJ said:
Be careful junior
lunchwithyuzo
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I don't think it's that difficult to make an objective case that even just Nintendo's 1st party lineup has more pull with consumers than basically everything on Vita. Even a relatively low scale Nintendo announcement like Fire Emblem is a guaranteed bigger seller than Famitsu's big Vita reveal this week (Ys IVr). This isn't really a subjective position at all.StuBurns said:
How is that related to a lack of focus/identity?F#A#Oo said:
Also, the DS had pokemon games, mario games and DQ, how is that not a "me too" scenario?
Both 3DS/PSV have a lot of ports and sequels. My point was that the 3DS isn't the complete package some of us wanted, 3D was never mandatory and it's being discouraged (wasn't this supposed to be the big thing?), without it I don't see a big difference between a DSi and 3DS when it comes to gameplay capabilities (I'm not talking about hardware or online functionality), now some games play a lot better with two analogs and nintendo feels the need to release an add-on, this is something anyone could foresee yet nintendo stuck to their guns. They can't make dual analogs mandatory, but some games play better with them. Those are clear signs of a lack of identity, games aside. If 3DS had a clear goal I wouldn't see anyone speculating about a serious redesign.
Maybe our definition of identity varies, I don't know.
Loonz
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StuBurns said:
Sorry, but stop it. What is exactly that exciting about the Vita lineup?. Please, explain that to us because the way I see it, only a fanboy could say that with a straight face.
3DS is going to have exclusive renditions of almost all (if not all) the most popular franchises in Japan, franchises with proven appeal and quality. Most of those are also popular in the West, for the same reasons.
The Vita as of now has some games from Sony IPs (Uncharted, Wipeout, LBP), some lesser 3rd party ports (and by lesser I mean less popular, not worse), and some unproven new IPs. Ah, and CoD. That's all that has to combat the juggernaut of first-line games the 3DS is receiving. How the hell this blows away the 3DS lineup?. I just don't see it, anywhere. Only a fanboy could say this looking at the facts.
Nintendo is cementing right now the future of its current portable platform, you can now buy one knowing that it will have many of the best IPs the market can offer. Sony isn't doing the same for the Vita, in fact all I see from them is incompetence and doubts. I say this as a user of both the DS and the PSP, having enjoyed both catalogs a lot. I'd like to love the Vita but I play games, not consoles. I hope Sony can offer more of the former for its soon to be released portable.
I'm not the one who brought it up. Ask the other guy.Loonz said:
Now that is an interesting argument I see often, and very much thread worthy. I personally don't care that much about the handhelds, so I think Nintendo and Sony should put a lot more effort on their consoles, some people think the exact opposite, I think both view points are valid of course.Sipowicz said:
Brad Grenz
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StuBurns said:
Frankly, the fact that Japanese developers keep insisting on making lateral moves instead of joining the rest of the world in the HD present is one of the biggest problems the industry has right now. They'll never learn to develop HD games cost effectively if they keep retreating to the lowest powered handheld they can find. Meanwhile, they keep getting left further and further behind, marginalizing their product in the rest of the world.
Even that might be OK, if the absurdist manner in which the Japanese publishers continue to balkanize their player-base by randomly distributing major franchises across too many platform wasn't itself contributing to the shrinking market overall. I mean, how was a Japanese RPG fan supposed to know what home console to buy? Final Fantasy was coming to PS3, but eventually went multiplatform, except for Versus XIII possibly? MS had money-hatted Sakaguchi and a number of others early on, including a Star Ocean game previously announced for PS3, before becoming 360 exclusive, then getting ported to PS3 anyway. Tales got an exclusive 360 game, too, that also came to PS3 eventually and was followed up by Tales of Xillia. Monster Hunter 3 was pledged to PS3 at one point, but that got switched to Wii, which also ended up with Dragon Quest, more Sakaguchi and a Xeno game... It's a complete clusterfuck when in the previous 3 generations the choice was strait forward.
It would have been simpler if Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest were on the same platform. Then the developers know where to commit and everything else falls in line. It's ironic that now, with being produced by the same company, Square-Enix doesn't seem to recognize the stabilizing power they could have over the Japanese industry.
Fernando Rocker
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StuBurns said:
Sorry, but the 3DS first party and third party games that are coming are better than the announced games so far for the Vita.
That is not even for debate. Even the two offerings from Square Enix (the rhythm game and Bravely Default) seems way more interesting that what they have showed for the Vita.
lunchwithyuzo
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This exactly. What the MH4 announcement actually does is imply that 3G isn't a skippable one off deal and signals to that 4.5m strong MH fanbase that this is the next platform for them to invest in.beril said:
I'd brought up this possibility earlier, but I'm thinking companies like Square Enix, Sega and Gung-Ho have to be a little sour on this turn too. Basically everyone expected MH to go Vita and focus on that platform primarily, now it's an open question if the sysyem will even get MH support outside emulation. All the clone makers focused one way, and the genre king went the other, I have to wonder if that's not worrying some now?
SmokedMeat
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DaSorcerer7 said:
I wasn't port begging. As a 3DS owner, I'm merely saying I think MH is going to be more multiplatform from now on.
Fernando Rocker
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