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[Beth Cyra]

MH took off because people play local - for sure. Kids at schools in Japan, on trains, gangs of friends - that's where it's happening and that's why the PSP sales of the game are trundling towards FIVE MILLION

However, this is the EXACT REASON 3DS MH is going to clock in at around 600k. It's Tri G on a different platform. So no continuing your character from PSP, you need your friends to buy it etc. So when people are saying things like "now 3DS is the home of MH" it's just not as straight forward. I also fully expect Capcom to do the usual piss-on-your-chips routine at TGS and straight out announce what is coming next for PSP/PS# which will once again hamstring the idea that people are simply going to march over to 3DS.

I would bet my account that this doesn't happen. MH Por 3rd Didn't just sale 5 million copies becuase you could transfer saves between 2 and 3, it helped but it didn't stop it.

No one so far has given a single reason for Capcom doing this.

The only person this would help is Sony, it doesn't help Capcom at all because it could hurt there own product they are releasing here and now. Vita is going to sell out and be strained for a while and Capcom has ZERO need to hurt sales of there products to let Sony say fuck you to Nintendo.

 

[antonz]

I haven't played MH3 so don't really understand some of the changes they are referring to. But I can understand one:

- Things that you usually do back in your home (equipment changing, etc) can now be done at the dock while you are still online and connected

Thats what I thought it said. My japanese is far too rusty to judge it all. Seems to suggest Online capabilities of some degree

 

[Mpl90]

I haven't played MH3 so don't really understand some of the changes they are referring to. But I can understand one:

- Things that you usually do back in your home (equipment changing, etc) can now be done at the dock while you are still online and connected

So, it should have online

 

[Akainu]

From what I can tell you guys didn't do justice to how ridiculous that new monster looks.

 

[Mpl90]

From what I can tell you guys didn't do justice to how ridiculous that new monster looks.

Where's the new monster?
Scan?
Famitsu's cover?

 

[PdotMichael]

Do we have some reactions from 2ch about Monster Hunter for 3DS?

 

[JudgeN]

So, it should have online

It "should" but there was no reason the PSP games couldn't have online either and they didn't. I'm not going to get my hopes up for a actual infrastructure online mode.

This be capcom ya know.

 

[Raonak]

Hmm... interesting turn of events.

That theory about capcom doing some mega milking with a vita series and a 3ds series of MH games might have some weight.

 

[AdventureRacing]

That are all launch or first 3-6 month titles, looks a lot stronger than anything what we got with the 3ds till christmas.

Only problem is just like what happened with the consoles this gen the vita won't be competing with the 3DS launch lineup.

 

[Cipherr]

MH took off because people play local - for sure. Kids at schools in Japan, on trains, gangs of friends - that's where it's happening and that's why the PSP sales of the game are trundling towards FIVE MILLION

However, this is the EXACT REASON 3DS MH is going to clock in at around 600k. It's Tri G on a different platform. So no continuing your character from PSP, you need your friends to buy it etc. So when people are saying things like "now 3DS is the home of MH" it's just not as straight forward. I also fully expect Capcom to do the usual piss-on-your-chips routine at TGS and straight out announce what is coming next for PSP/PS# which will once again hamstring the idea that people are simply going to march over to 3DS.

The bolded is absolutely insane. Its crazy that prior to today we all knew how big MHP had gotten. It rivals Pokemon, and is bigger than Dragon Quest right now. And you just said its going to do 600k tops. In other words fans of the game are going to abandon it because of no transfer.

Not going to happen, what is going to happen is its going to sell extremely well, and there is going to be VERY good reason for future MHP titles to also appear on the 3DS so that people can xfer from this point onward.

Its funny, I had missed this portion of the announcement, that addon is ugly, but Nintendo just stole the only chance Vita had really at taking off IMO. Sony really needed this franchise for the Vita. Even if somehow this MHP title doesn't do as well as previous ones, it doesn't matter, VITA DOESN'T HAVE IT. Just the absence of the title on Sonys platform is a massive blow. For the competition to get it is damn near a headshot.

There is no way Iwata didnt write Capcom a freaking massive check for this. Capcom has no reason that I can think of to not just wait and launch this on Vita. No addon needed, plenty of new hardware features to experiment with..... This reeks of moneyhat. The addon makes a bit of sense now. Nintendo probably paid whatever was asked and agree to do whatever it took to get the game. The only thing I'm curious about it the addons dimensions. Its too big to just be buttons and an analog.

Ill bet my ass this analog has something else built into it.

 

[CrisKre]

Why is no one talking about how awesome triG will play in 3d? If OOT is any indication that alone will be a huge treat.

 

[watershed]

Isn't it also possible there is a feature to transfer one's save from the wii to the 3ds? We know the 3ds can interact with the wii so maybe a special built in app or something is all that's needed?

 

[Loonz]

MH took off because people play local - for sure. Kids at schools in Japan, on trains, gangs of friends - that's where it's happening and that's why the PSP sales of the game are trundling towards FIVE MILLION

However, this is the EXACT REASON 3DS MH is going to clock in at around 600k. It's Tri G on a different platform. So no continuing your character from PSP, you need your friends to buy it etc. So when people are saying things like "now 3DS is the home of MH" it's just not as straight forward. I also fully expect Capcom to do the usual piss-on-your-chips routine at TGS and straight out announce what is coming next for PSP/PS# which will once again hamstring the idea that people are simply going to march over to 3DS.

Wanna bet your sausage on those?. What are you, Nostradamus much?. You seem a bit hurt man.

Now, in relation to the topic, this MH for 3DS announcement have just cemented the future of the platform in Japan, and perhaps in the rest of the world indirectly. Most support for portables comes from Japan companies, and if your console sells big in Japan you'll have support from them and so support for the rest of world. Nintendo obviously knows this.

Unless Sony announces something big in the TGS the Vita could be in trouble next year, as it seems that most of the software that drives most of the sales is going to be on a competing platform. It is an unprecedented situation for Sony I believe. In the West they could pull the CoD card, but in Japan... I don't know.

 

[PdotMichael]

Why is no one talking about how awesome triG will play in 3s? If OOT is any indication that alone will be a huge treat.

because the 3D in OOT wasn't a huge treat?

 

[jump_button]

Im sure this is big news in japan but cant see it winning any new fan in the west

 

[Beth Cyra]

Isn't it also possible there is a feature to transfer one's save from the wii to the 3ds? We know the 3ds can interact with the wii so maybe a special built in app or something is all that's needed?

Or you could transfer your save onto an SD card and then have the MH Tri G search for it maybe.

Thing is I don't know if they would bother, Tri sold well but nothing on the lvl of 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Erethian]

because the 3D in OOT wasn't a huge treat?

I thought it worked really well, myself.

 

[watershed]

Or you could transfer your save onto an SD card and then have the MH Tri G search for it maybe.

Thing is I don't know if they would bother, Tri sold well but nothing on the lvl of 2nd or 3rd.

Either way, it doesn't seem like an obstacle to people buying Tri G on the 3ds, especially if Tr on the wii didn't sell gangbusters in the first place.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

because the 3D in OOT wasn't a huge treat?

I liked it for what it was.

I can think of a few situations where it did add something.

 

[antonz]

Either way, it doesn't seem like an obstacle to people buying Tri G on the 3ds, especially if Tr on the wii didn't sell gangbusters in the first place.

Tri as of July 2010 Had sold close to 2 million units around the World. Most successful console outing yet.

I really dont see why it cant be popular in the west on the 3DS. The only reason the franchise more or less moved on and left the West handheld wise was the PSP was a pirate platform and couldnt move software.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Either way, it doesn't seem like an obstacle to people buying Tri G on the 3ds, especially if Tr on the wii didn't sell gangbusters in the first place.

I don't believe it will be an issue. Small install base combined with MH fanbase nothing being built up on that platform could easily keep it from crazy numbers, but beating out the Wii? Given it's parnter releases I can easily see that happening.

 

[watershed]

Tri as of July 2010 Had sold close to 2 million units around the World. Most successful console outing yet.

I really dont see why it cant be popular in the west on the 3DS. The only reason the franchise more or less moved on and left the West handheld wise was the PSP was a pirate platform and couldnt move software.

For me, living in NA, the lack of online is the biggest obstacle preventing me from buying this game. I'd like to play MH but no online no sale for now.

 

[antonz]

For me, living in NA, the lack of online is the biggest obstacle preventing me from buying this game. I'd like to play MH but no online no sale for now.

We have some moonspeak that seems to suggest there is an online hub or something. Could probably get it fully translated if people werent so caught up on the extra pad thread

 

[Mpl90]

Please, someone translates... please.

 

[watershed]

We have some moonspeak that seems to suggest there is an online hub or something. Could probably get it fully translated if people werent so caught up on the extra pad thread

WHA....? I need this translated pronto but my rudimentary japanese wouldn't get us past "wa" and "no".

 

[Kurod]

We have some moonspeak that seems to suggest there is an online hub or something. Could probably get it fully translated if people werent so caught up on the extra pad thread

I dunno. It could just be referring to the dock as a local multiplayer hub like the gathering hall in MHFU. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[DiscoJer]

There is no way Iwata didnt write Capcom a freaking massive check for this. Capcom has no reason that I can think of to not just wait and launch this on Vita. No addon needed, plenty of new hardware features to experiment with..... This reeks of moneyhat. The addon makes a bit of sense now. Nintendo probably paid whatever was asked and agree to do whatever it took to get the game. The only thing I'm curious about it the addons dimensions. Its too big to just be buttons and an analog.

While a moneyhat wouldn't shock me, I think by putting it on the 3DS instead of Vita, they could get it out the door quicker (and much cheaper).

I mean, they already have a game to base it on, Tri. They don't have such a thing for the Vita, as there is really no HD Monster Hunter.

Not to mention, they can probably re-use a lot of PSP assets, the models anyway, just improve the textures.

 

[thefro]

Exactly, they can get Tri G out the door cheaply and get Nintendo to publish it overseas again. A ground-up Vita game would require a lot more effort for less sales than a 3DS Tri G and a Vita Portable 3rd HD port will bring.

This makes the most sense for Capcom to make the most $$$.

 

[slaughterking]

If this doesn't have online they may as well just not release it outside of Japan.

 

[Wazzim]

If this doesn't have online they may as well just not release it outside of Japan.

You can still use Xlink Kai on PC or something.


I was first skeptical about a 3DS MH but shit looks so awesome, I have to buy. HAVE TO. I hope they'll release the 3DS+ at the western launch.

 

[watershed]

You can still use Xlink Kai on PC or something.


I was first skeptical about a 3DS MH but shit looks so awesome, I have to buy. HAVE TO. I hope they'll release the 3DS+ at the western launch.

Are there images of the game itself? All I see are the crappy scans of the new slider add on.

 

[Mojojo]

Where's the new monster?
Scan?
Famitsu's cover?

he is speaking of the monster you need to dock to the 3DS to play it, right?

 

[slaughterking]

You can still use Xlink Kai on PC or something.

I don't know if any tunnel software supports the 3DS yet. And that's also not important to me, since I don't intent to use such an inconvenient setup to play a game online.

 

[Kyon]

You can still use Xlink Kai on PC or something.


I was first skeptical about a 3DS MH but shit looks so awesome, I have to buy. HAVE TO. I hope they'll release the 3DS+ at the western launch.

Xlink isnt 3DS compatible

 

[Akainu]

he is speaking of the monster you need to dock to the 3DS to play it, right?

The flag ship monster.

 

[CrisKre]

Does the fact that its on a 3ds cart also mean no loading between sections most probably? That and 3d would be a huge deal for my enjoyment of this game. I'm in.

 

[weeaboo]

there're some new (and tiny) scans out. It could look as good as the Wii one but I can't tell, they're really tiny!

 

[Akainu]

Does the fact that its on a 3ds cart also mean no loading between sections most probably?

If it will be shorter probably. But I doubt they are going to get rid of it completely.

 

[cvxfreak]

Does the fact that its on a 3ds cart also mean no loading between sections most probably? That and 3d would be a huge deal for my enjoyment of this game. I'm in.

From what we saw with RE Mercenaries 3D, nope...

 

[Wazzim]

Are there images of the game itself? All I see are the crappy scans of the new slider add on.

Yeah there are, looks amazing.

Just read the rest of the thread and saw Plesioth is back. This can't be true, why would Capcom do this to us? WHHYYY!? They said they would fix the hipcheck on a MH Freedom Unite interview in London but i don't have any faith in that, it's gonna be hell. The freaking awesome kind of hell.

Xlink isnt 3DS compatible

Not now but they can easily program it to pick up 3DS's Ad-Hoc signal too, it works the same as on the PSP as far as I know.

The loading times should be dramatically reduced, but there are a good few games that still have lengthy loading times (I would guess that's down to poor coding though)

The best MH loading I have ever experienced was with the Freedom Unite demo disc, it was near to instant. Even better then running the full game off your memory stick.

 

[Ydahs]

because the 3D in OOT wasn't a huge treat?

To each their own, but 3D in OoT was one of the most immersive experiences I've had gaming. Moreso than HD or motion controls.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Does the fact that its on a 3ds cart also mean no loading between sections most probably? That and 3d would be a huge deal for my enjoyment of this game. I'm in.

The loading times should be dramatically reduced, but there are a good few games that still have lengthy loading times (I would guess that's down to poor coding though)

 

[Amalthea]

To each their own, but 3D in OoT was one of the most immersive experiences I've had gaming. Moreso than HD or motion controls.

Being able to judge the distance of a monster could be a huge thing for MH.

 

[wsippel]

Does the fact that its on a 3ds cart also mean no loading between sections most probably? That and 3d would be a huge deal for my enjoyment of this game. I'm in.

DS and 3DS carts are simple block devices, so there's still loading. The cartridges are fast and offer very low access times compared to optical media and even hard disks, though. If Capcom does a good job, load times between sections should be very short.

 

[Wazzim]

Being able to judge the distance of a monster could be a huge thing for MH.

Not until they fix the 3D, playing 2D will be the safest way if you like hunting with low health like I do.

 

[BorkBork]

Being able to judge the distance of a monster could be a huge thing for MH.

They need to push this as a big selling point for sure. Lord knows I lost track of the times when I jump slashed or hammered down into thin air in Tri because of the lack of depth perception.

Not until they fix the 3D, playing 2D will be the safest way if you like hunting with low health like I do.

Did I miss something? Are they having trouble with implementing the 3D?

 

[CrisKre]

The pics look incredible. How is capcom pulling off this graphics on 3ds? Good lord.

 

[weeaboo]

The pics look incredible. How is capcom pulling off this graphics on 3ds? Good lord.

MT Framework Mobile I guess, it really looks good.

 

[Grampasso]

Wow, this took me completely offguard...
Awestruck (I don't even know if this term exists)

 

[Wazzim]

Did I miss something? Are they having trouble with implementing the 3D?

I tried the 3DS several times and the 3D doesn't seem to work good when playing, you have to play in some perfect angle or something.

The pics look incredible. How is capcom pulling off this graphics on 3ds? Good lord.

Yeah, I originally wanted a full 'HD' MH on Vita but this looks really, really good. With this, I can comfortably wait some time extra before the HD MH.