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Moon landing conspiracy and Flat Earth conspiracy theories go here and nowhere else
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Tesseract
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we all know rotating spheres of water in microgravity are actually flat
still trying to figure who is keeping this thing a secret when thousands of competing geniuses across the world (many hate each other) are in agreement about various models of the known universe
still trying to figure who is keeping this thing a secret when thousands of competing geniuses across the world (many hate each other) are in agreement about various models of the known universe
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bitbydeath
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eot
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This I agree with. "How do we know the Earth is round" is a good question to ask, because from a historical perspective it's not obvious. Curiosity is a healthy thing.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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there are degrees of fisheye. If when the camera moves the curve changes significantly it is some form of fisheye, if I'm not mistaken. The earth is vastly bigger than suggested by that large curve, at least in the screenshot of the video. In some sections it lookes subtler, but I think I've seen it even subtler from similar balloon cameras.
DESTROYA
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Happy Birthday brother, we might not agree on this whole flat earth thing but I hope you have a great Bday.
TheGreatYosh
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I'll give you a hint. They don't believe it's a flat square floating in space either.
triplestation
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if you look at a bowling ball and zoom in really close the surface will become very flat
like if you are a bacteria you would think you're walking on flat surface but when you zoom out
like if you are a bacteria you would think you're walking on flat surface but when you zoom out
Thurible
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I apologize if I came off as rude, but this is a very much verifiable objective scientific fact. I don't mean to belittle you personally though.
The first thing the guy in the video does is claim that we have no pictures of satellites in space. The thing is satellites ARE observable in space. You can actually look outside with a telescope and possibly see one of them rolling by.
I also recommend reading this article on the matter. Though we have a lot of satellites in orbit they vary greatly in size and function. Also we have a lot of debris up there you may be surprised by the amount of space we have for low orbit around the earth.
If Earth's orbit is so crowded, why don't we see space junk in photos of the Earth?
Sometimes, when we post a cool picture of the Earth taken from space, Popular Science gets questions about why—if there's so much garbage in space—we don't see a galactic landfill orbiting our planet in pictures of the Earth.
www.popsci.com
Then the video maker goes into how cables seem to be used more often for telecommunications than satellites, which I don't see the issue with. Both can be used for that purpose and not all satellites are used for telecommunications.
The video maker complains that it doesn't make sense for satellites to work because they are moving in orbit and thus one would lose the signal as it passes by. But then he explains geostationary orbit and how move with the earth's rotation so they are always "overhead" (which is true). Then he says he doesn't buy into that because of the earth's movement in a three dimensional space would be complicated to have something like that "locked in". All I have to say in response to that is math.
He then says the van allen radiation belt around the earth should cause issues with satellites. Not all forms of radiation are dangerous especially to an object specifically made to encounter them (there are some forms of heat shielding to my understanding). Also there is no air pressure up in the thermosphere so there isn't a significant transfer of heat.
I'm not going to bother with the other video. The guy just finds it weird that a plane decided to go to Anchorage instead of Los Angeles for an emergency landing. There are many factors to consider when making a landing, there are many possible explanations.
Weilthain
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I apologize if I came off as rude, but this is a very much verifiable objective scientific fact. I don't mean to belittle you personally though.
The first thing the guy in the video does is claim that we have no pictures of satellites in space. The thing is satellites ARE observable in space. You can actually look outside with a telescope and possibly see one of them rolling by.
I also recommend reading this article on the matter. Though we have a lot of satellites in orbit they vary greatly in size and function. Also we have a lot of debris up there you may be surprised by the amount of space we have for low orbit around the earth.
If Earth's orbit is so crowded, why don't we see space junk in photos of the Earth?
Sometimes, when we post a cool picture of the Earth taken from space, Popular Science gets questions about why—if there's so much garbage in space—we don't see a galactic landfill orbiting our planet in pictures of the Earth.
Then the video maker goes into how cables seem to be used more often for telecommunications than satellites, which I don't see the issue with. Both can be used for that purpose and not all satellites are used for telecommunications.
The video maker complains that it doesn't make sense for satellites to work because they are moving in orbit and thus one would lose the signal as it passes by. But then he explains geostationary orbit and how move with the earth's rotation so they are always "overhead" (which is true). Then he says he doesn't buy into that because of the earth's movement in a three dimensional space would be complicated to have something like that "locked in". All I have to say in response to that is math.
He then says the van allen radiation belt around the earth should cause issues with satellites. Not all forms of radiation are dangerous especially to an object specifically made to encounter them (there are some forms of heat shielding to my understanding). Also there is no air pressure up in the thermosphere so there isn't a significant transfer of heat.
I'm not going to bother with the other video. The guy just finds it weird that a plane decided to go to Anchorage instead of Los Angeles for an emergency landing. There are many factors to consider when making a landing, there are many possible explanations.
Thanks for the answers.
with satellites, when you say you can see them do you mean you can actually see the actual satellite 🛰 or a light going past in the sky? I know people have filmed the iss going past and you can make out the shape, but obviously I’m going to say that since all the footage of them on iss have way too many issues that make me believe it’s fake,I gotta question whether that thing is what they say it is, and whether people are really on it.
there seems to be very few photos or videos of actual satellites. Everytime you see them represented in tv it’s always a cgi cartoon.
the sticks in the ground experiment still isn’t enough to convince me. If light can bend around the curve of the earth to produce refractive mirages of things that appear they are just there in line of sight, but are actually out of actual line of sight behind the curve, then maybe with a local close sun and atmosphere light is being messed with, I don’t know that is one beyond my level of space maths.
the flight paths are pretty interesting to me. When you stretch them out on a flat map you can see how it doesn’t make sense. No one flys under the globe nearly all the flights are in the northern hemisphere as well which is the “Center”.
what do you think about that interview with the leading astrophysicist who can’t answer some good questions and shuts down when talking about the missing curvature experiments
You post the photos it will be funnier if you are forced to post them with a straight face. “Rocket to the moon in 2019, this is the best we got!”
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Shifty
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Some of you lot take this way too seriously.
You should sit back and have a giggle instead of letting your spleen get the better of you and making it a furious crusade against the crazy world view that contradicts hard science.
Getting angry over other people thinking wrong is a waste of blood pressure.
O-VER THE HILLS AND FAR A-WAYYY
Eh, what? Sorry, sudden outburst of historical patriotism.
You should sit back and have a giggle instead of letting your spleen get the better of you and making it a furious crusade against the crazy world view that contradicts hard science.
Getting angry over other people thinking wrong is a waste of blood pressure.
KING GEORGE COMMANDS AND WE O-BEYY
O-VER THE HILLS AND FAR A-WAYYY
Eh, what? Sorry, sudden outburst of historical patriotism.
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Rentahamster
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I'm not sure how that video gets across the "no cameras in space" idea. There are lots of cameras in space. Cameras that take pictures of the Earth, of the moon, of the stars, of other galaxies, etc. Lots of photographic and video footage have already been shown in this thread.
In terms of the video itself, it's hard to take seriously since the video creator can't tell the difference between a green screen error and a livestream video artifact. Furthermore, the answer to his question is obviously #2, as that was well documented too.
How NASA Sent the Winning Super Bowl LI Team's Jersey to Space — Before Game Day
HOUSTON — It is a familiar scene: mere seconds after the game ends, out come the shirts celebrating the winner of the Super Bowl. On Sunday (Feb. 5), the same thing is expected to happen at NRG Stadium in Houston. That is because the Super Bowl LI winning team's jersey is already on board the...
You should watch it. It's not fake.
Astronauts Make Super Bowl 2017 Picks from Space
Sporting football jerseys and with a pigskin in hand, two International Space Station astronauts have made their picks for Super Bowl 2017.
www.space.com
Weilthain
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I'm not sure how that video gets across the "no cameras in space" idea. There are lots of cameras in space. Cameras that take pictures of the Earth, of the moon, of the stars, of other galaxies, etc. Lots of photographic and video footage have already been shown in this thread.
In terms of the video itself, it's hard to take seriously since the video creator can't tell the difference between a green screen error and a livestream video artifact. Furthermore, the answer to his question is obviously #2, as that was well documented too.
How NASA Sent the Winning Super Bowl LI Team's Jersey to Space — Before Game Day
HOUSTON — It is a familiar scene: mere seconds after the game ends, out come the shirts celebrating the winner of the Super Bowl. On Sunday (Feb. 5), the same thing is expected to happen at NRG Stadium in Houston. That is because the Super Bowl LI winning team's jersey is already on board the...news.yahoo.com
You should watch it. It's not fake.
Astronauts Make Super Bowl 2017 Picks from Space
Sporting football jerseys and with a pigskin in hand, two International Space Station astronauts have made their picks for Super Bowl 2017.
my point was to shit all over the argument that people have made to me in the past why they don’t stick cameras on all the satellites and rockets they are sending into space “because it’s too expensive” I think it makes the point very well. Nasa released that video 2 days after the YouTube guy uploaded that video calling them out
the iss footage from inside the station is obviously fake to me.
When they aren’t on harnesses they use the zero g planes.
It’s not just the green screen glitches. They are clearly using some kind of augmented reality vr tech. Heads glitch through walls, people disappear around corners etc it’s all a magic show
footage of high altitude “low earth orbit” doesn’t cut it for me. Plenty of amateur high altitude footage that shows no curvature where other footage from the same height uses wide angle lenses which make the curve convex and concave depending on the angle
Those pictures of galaxies and shit aren’t real photos.
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Hulk_Smash
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Is it possible for us to throw 9/11 conspiracy theories here as well?
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Weilthain
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It’s related to the conspiracy side of flat earth regarding how governments are corrupt, evil, lying bastards, while the normal people working for these agencies are none the wiser.
that would be up to the boss though.
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Weilthain
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I believe so, yes
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Tesseract
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yes vr is real but real isn't real until we can simulate it
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Really?
The Brooklyn Brawler
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"Owl be back"
Nymphae
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I have never seen one attempt to explain the ISS footage where you can see the effects of harness wires on the astronauts, in one you can so clearly see one of the astronauts tug at the wire harness on the guy next to him - you can see his hand grasp something that isn't there, you can see the wire tugging on the second astronauts clothing as it's pulled, and you can see him move closer as the wire is tugged.
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trikster40
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What about flat moon theories?
The Brooklyn Brawler
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What if the earth is round but all the land is on the INSIDE of the sphere.
So if you look up far enough or flew up youd see the other side of the world
So if you look up far enough or flew up youd see the other side of the world
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Do you have a link I'd like to see this
Nymphae
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This is the one I'm thinking of, if you dig around there is a higher quality video of this, this is just the first one I found at work looking at thumbnails, YT is blocked :/
Certainly interesting I think.
The Brooklyn Brawler
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No way youd be allowed to do somersaults with all that expensive shit on the walls and ceilings
The Brooklyn Brawler
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This is a story all about how
That guy got twist turned upside down
I'd like to check for wires just hang right there
And tell me how the fuck your lying to float in mid air
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Lying bastards
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Maybe space makes your skin invisible?
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Space is boring anyway. Ive never even seen star wars or star trek. Stupid wee spacemen running about shooting lasers.
We should be exploring the deepest parts of the ocean. Especially at Antarctica etc where all the lost cities and aliens are
We should be exploring the deepest parts of the ocean. Especially at Antarctica etc where all the lost cities and aliens are
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Weilthain
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You can’t go to Antarctica independently.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Notice that even in the wiki they use a composite image of Antarctic in place of just using one of those real pictures from space.
Antarctic Treaty System - Wikipedia
Notice that even in the wiki they use a composite image of Antarctic in place of just using one of those real pictures from space.
The Brooklyn Brawler
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Ok that is pretty strange I never knew about thisYou can’t go to Antarctica independently.
Antarctic Treaty System - Wikipedia
Notice that even in the wiki they use a composite image of Antarctic in place of just using one of those real pictures from space.
And why is their headquarters in Argentina?!? The un-antartica-iest place ever
Weilthain
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The tech to do this is in regular peoples hands now.
imagine what the governments are capable of. They are known liars. I hope people can understand why I am very sceptical about official space footage that comes from government agencies.
Tip of Argentina is far to the south. It’s close.
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The Brooklyn Brawler
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Never trusted those fucking Argies
Weilthain
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They speak weird Spanish. Everything is a “sh” sound. Makes them hard to understand.
They got what was coming to them with the Falkland war.
The Brooklyn Brawler
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It's all a big conshpirashy
Tesseract
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You can’t go to Antarctica independently.
Antarctic Treaty System - Wikipedia
Notice that even in the wiki they use a composite image of Antarctic in place of just using one of those real pictures from space.
Starlight Lotice
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If Pikmin taught us anything. The Earth has a Day that lasts just 6 hours (an hour of game time) and the Humans disappeared without a Trace.
As for the Moon Landings being faked. Speed up the footage to double to see the real speed that was done on Earth (in the Nevada Desert to be exact).
As for the Moon Landings being faked. Speed up the footage to double to see the real speed that was done on Earth (in the Nevada Desert to be exact).
Tesseract
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Weilthain
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