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Most absurdly overpowered superhero?

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Its not fair to postulate on the ceiling of Manhattans powers considering the limited run he had to let them flourish. I'm having a hard to believing he'd be so easily owned considering his omniscience, unlimited control over all matter and the ability to see all future events he's witnessed. I'd love to have seen him amped up destroying someone
 
I feel like you all are discounting Doctor Manhattan's perfect knowledge of his own future and ability to reconstruct himself from scattered atoms. He would at least be incredibly difficult to permanently deal with.
 
What? The guy had no weakness, at all. How someone would defeat him?
His powers might not be unlimited, he is not omniscient (he can only see his future), his powers can be blocked with tachyons and most important of all: he doesn't give a fuck about anything that happens to mankind. So he won't help anyone.
 
i don't get this, if manhattan is a god that can basically control everything how are more powerful cosmic gods and what not defeat him? do they control everything, just more?


what the fuck

Manhattan is not a god, just a powerful human. He's not omnicient, for instance. Manhattan percieves time as all happening at once, but it's limited to his lifetime and personal experience.
He also "can't control everything"- a notable example is that he was unable to do anything about his ex wife's cancer, and exiled himself to mars because he had been tricked into thinking that he was carcinogenic.

Let's look at the surfer.

Surfer's perception is universal, thanks to the power cosmic. He's able to percieve threats across the galaxy, and know the weaknesses of an opponent innately in fractions of a second.
He can not only look into the past and future of any area he's in, he can travel back, forth, and across (?!) time without fear of paradox. He's thrown an opponent to "the end of time" to get rid of them before.
and healing cancer? Surfer healed an entire planet of a deadly virus on a subatomic level, simultaneously.

collecting yourself from scattered atoms isn't even a novel ability at this tier- there are a LOAD of people with insane levels of molecular control (sersi, for instance) for which this is a non issue. suddenly those atoms are now all bricks, or whatever.

And that's just the SURFER. He's the low man on the totem pole compared to what cube beings, celestials, or abstracts do.
 
Hulk and wolverine.
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Hulk > everyone
 

Evangelion Units are somewhat low-tier even among Super Robots, because the series actually makes cursory nods to realism. In order to even count on the Super Robot over-powered chart, you need to at least be able to completely destroy a planet with a mid-tier attack.
 
The Flash

1. Light-speed movement
2. Phase-shifting through objects
3. Cross dimensional rifts
4. Store and deposit energy
5. Avoid Telapathy attacks
6. Travel through time
7. Construct clothes out of "Speed"
8. Speed-reading to obtain infinite knowledge
9. Awesome in bed

Yet, he'll run right into a sword if the writer wants it. Likewise Batman can be more capable than gods with clever use of his utility belt if the writer wants it.

I feel like you all are discounting Doctor Manhattan's perfect knowledge of his own future and ability to reconstruct himself from scattered atoms. He would at least be incredibly difficult to permanently deal with.

Someone could change the future into an unwinnable situation, lock him in some sort of demi-plane of existence or another universe, or maybe find a way to delete his molecules or "soul". He seems pretty vulnerable to a stealthy telepathic approach since guilt and apathy did a number of him.
 
i don't get this, if manhattan is a god that can basically control everything how are more powerful cosmic gods and what not defeat him? do they control everything, just more?


what the fuck

there are beings in the Marvel Universe that basically exist beyond and have control of things beyond our own universe. So say they can collapse the entire multiverse on itself and still live, because they exist even outside of that. Make sense?
 
The TOAA is the end all be all. Then the Living Tribanael, then the Brothers, and then everybody else.

I know; it just seemed like The Beyonder occupied a similar space in his own multiverse as TOAA does in its multiverse, at least the way I was understanding it.

And when you mention the Brothers, who are you talking about? I thought of Lucifer and Michael, but that is DC / Vertigo so I wasn't sure you meant them.
 
Video games need to step it up. I can't think of a character from a game that could compete in this thread

Bayonetta. But then that is dependent on the rules of her universe, where perception is reality and she can just look at herself do anything, like for example, kill god by punching it.
 
The Flash

1. Light-speed movement
2. Phase-shifting through objects
3. Cross dimensional rifts
4. Store and deposit energy
5. Avoid Telapathy attacks
6. Travel through time
7. Construct clothes out of "Speed"
8. Speed-reading to obtain infinite knowledge
9. Awesome in bed

Kind of tangential but isn't Flash's weakness his digestive system? Like, doesn't he burn off so many calories using his powers that he constantly needs cheeseburgers to maintain his powers?
 
I know; it just seemed like The Beyonder occupied a similar space in his own multiverse as TOAA does in its multiverse, at least the way I was understanding it.

And when you mention the Brothers, who are you talking about? I thought of Lucifer and Michael, but that is DC / Vertigo so I wasn't sure you meant them.
They rep DC and Marvel in DC vs Marvel.
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I know; it just seemed like The Beyonder occupied a similar space in his own multiverse as TOAA does in its multiverse, at least the way I was understanding it.

And when you mention the Brothers, who are you talking about? I thought of Lucifer and Michael, but that is DC / Vertigo so I wasn't sure you meant them.

Exactly. The Beyonder was the supreme being of his reality, only all of his reality was unified into one conciousness. and that reality was far, far, far more vast. He wasn't even aware of the existence of the MU for a long time, because it was so insignificant compared to the vastness of what the beyonder was.

Post secret wars, Marvel re-wrote the cosmic heirarchy and the marvel universe's place in it because the beyonder's existence broke everything. PRE rewrite, it was very, very clear that there was nothing in marvel continuity on the beyonder's level.

The brothers made an appearance in one of the DC/Marvel crossovers. I don't recall which one, but they were absurdly powerful (supposedly) but existence has never been mentioned since.

Kind of tangential but isn't Flash's weakness his digestive system? Like, doesn't he burn off so many calories using his powers that he constantly needs cheeseburgers to maintain his powers?

No. Flash's powers (at least before new 52, I'm not sure now) came from the speedforce. I don't think there's enough cheeseburgers in existence to provide the power to accelerate a man to lightspeed.
 
Exactly. The Beyonder was the supreme being of his reality, only all of his reality was unified into one conciousness. and that reality was far, far, far more vast. He wasn't even aware of the existence of the MU for a long time, because it was so insignificant compared to the vastness of what the beyonder was.

Post secret wars, Marvel re-wrote the cosmic heirarchy and the marvel universe's place in it because the beyonder's existence broke everything. PRE rewrite, it was very, very clear that there was nothing in marvel continuity on the beyonder's level.

The brothers made an appearance in one of the DC/Marvel crossovers. I don't recall which one, but they were absurdly powerful (supposedly) but existence has never been mentioned since.
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Video games need to step it up. I can't think of a character from a game that could compete in this thread

Hmmm...

Maybe Disgaea characters. Considering that Demon Overlords powerful enough to create their own private worlds range from level 1000-2000, and it is possible to level grind up to level 9999, a case could be made that characters in the Nippon Ichi universe have the potential to possess completely bonkers strength. Considering the insanity of the series' attack animations, there might be a case there.
 
After reading his bio...nope. Not even close.

He battles a god that is theoretically on the level of most of these other guys and wins.

He is at least at the Gurren Lagann level of crazy planet tossing powerful. And he's got that whole Hulk-style "endless rage keeps powering him up forever" thing going.
 
Dr. Manhattan?

He seems to have virtually limitless power in a world where the only other super heroes don't have any powers at all.

Then again, don't know that you can necessarily qualify him as a hero.

He's also stuck on a track. He can't or won't do anything that's not in the script.
 
No. Flash's powers (at least before new 52, I'm not sure now) came from the speedforce. I don't think there's enough cheeseburgers in existence to provide the power to accelerate a man to lightspeed.

New 52 does not change that fact. The Speedforce is still the primary source of his power and in fact, in New 52 he now HAS to use his powers or the Speedforce will rip the universe apart.

TAKE THAT you underpowered superlosers. The Flash literally has to use his power to keep the universe from ripping apart, in addition to everything else he does.
 
I recall reading somewhere that Ice Man is actually one of the most powerful beings in Marvel given his control over moisture he should be able to dehydrate or freeze any non-cyborg/ethereal thing.
 
I recall reading somewhere that Ice Man is actually one of the most powerful beings in Marvel given his control over moisture he should be able to dehydrate or freeze any non-cyborg/ethereal thing.

he's powerful for a mutant, sure. definitely top tier.

He's vulnerable to psychics though, iirc. Emma Frost stole his body and powers before.

that's the thing about marvel- If you're physically strong, there are dudes that can fry your mind or soul in seconds. Guys who can teleport you to the 9th circle of hell and leave you there to rot. Or just take whatever powers you have with a thought. Doom can actually do this, which makes him one of the most broken villains in existence. The only reason he doesn't say...jack the hulk's body is because he's too arrogant. he thinks he's better off without it.
 
One more for the mix, the Golden Tribe from Heroic Age. They are basically gods in their universe. They can travel through dimensions and time, could create and destroy galaxies, etc...
 
NO! HELL FUCKING NO! That's one of the things Video Games have over other media that it does rather well, relatively.

Lack of completely broken retarded power levels.

Only in the case of player characters - an NPC entity can still be stupidly powerful just as an excuse to contain the player's experience to what the devs will actually work on.

That being said, Jedah from Darkstalkers and higher-end Super Robot Wars final bosses come to mind.
 
Do you really think this or is this a parody of Batman fans?

You should read my other posts, that answers it
hint:parody

Manhattan is not a god, just a powerful human. He's not omnicient, for instance. Manhattan percieves time as all happening at once, but it's limited to his lifetime and personal experience.
He also "can't control everything"- a notable example is that he was unable to do anything about his ex wife's cancer, and exiled himself to mars because he had been tricked into thinking that he was carcinogenic.

Let's look at the surfer.

Surfer's perception is universal, thanks to the power cosmic. He's able to percieve threats across the galaxy, and know the weaknesses of an opponent innately in fractions of a second.
He can not only look into the past and future of any area he's in, he can travel back, forth, and across (?!) time without fear of paradox. He's thrown an opponent to "the end of time" to get rid of them before.
and healing cancer? Surfer healed an entire planet of a deadly virus on a subatomic level, simultaneously.

collecting yourself from scattered atoms isn't even a novel ability at this tier- there are a LOAD of people with insane levels of molecular control (sersi, for instance) for which this is a non issue. suddenly those atoms are now all bricks, or whatever.

And that's just the SURFER. He's the low man on the totem pole compared to what cube beings, celestials, or abstracts do.

So how would they destroy the Dr? Isn't he immortal? What weakness does Dr. Manhattan have anyways? Anything made of matter can be controlled by him. I'm not saying he's the most powerful character, but he's definitely up there with the big boys. He can easily destroy "normal" superheroes like the more mainstream ones (Flash, Superman, Green Lanterns, etc)
 
Exactly. The Beyonder was the supreme being of his reality, only all of his reality was unified into one conciousness. and that reality was far, far, far more vast. He wasn't even aware of the existence of the MU for a long time, because it was so insignificant compared to the vastness of what the beyonder was.

Post secret wars, Marvel re-wrote the cosmic heirarchy and the marvel universe's place in it because the beyonder's existence broke everything. PRE rewrite, it was very, very clear that there was nothing in marvel continuity on the beyonder's level.

The brothers made an appearance in one of the DC/Marvel crossovers. I don't recall which one, but they were absurdly powerful (supposedly) but existence has never been mentioned since.



No. Flash's powers (at least before new 52, I'm not sure now) came from the speedforce. I don't think there's enough cheeseburgers in existence to provide the power to accelerate a man to lightspeed.

And that's a damn shame.
 
He's also stuck on a track. He can't or won't do anything that's not in the script.

Isn't that more a difference of writing than of the characters? Doc Manhattan can't change the future because, in the Watchmen universe, time is a constant - the past, present, and future are all predetermined and immutable. The same isn't true of characters that can go through time and change how things occur.

Of course then you raise the question of whether or not changing events via time travel is "breaking the rules of the universe" and if it's completely impossible for any being to do or if Manhattan is just "not omnipotent enough" to do it.

And why can't Flash just be a guy that runs fast? Why the mystical mumbo jumbo? It's a comic book, just roll with it.
 
Mr Majestic

All the powers Superman has (plus many more) and none of the human moral code as he is a warrior prince. In the crossover he did with Supes when they switched places he essentially locked up all the bad guys overnight.
 
You should read my other posts, that answers it
hint:parody



So how would they destroy the Dr? Isn't he immortal?

Travel back in time. strangle him in the crib.

Fry his soul to cinders, leaving his body a husk.

Banish him to hell. let demons tear him apart.

Hijack his body, transfer his mind into a rat or something.

Use teleportation to scatter his atoms across the the width of the universe.

Imprison him in a surfboard (yes, surfer did this once).

Null out his powers i.e. The Aquarian, break his neck.

Flat out absorb him, add his energies to your own.

All of these things have been done successfully to people on manhattan's level. And there's always the "blink him into nonexistence" route.
 
Travel back in time. strangle him in the crib.

Fry his soul to cinders, leaving his body a husk.

Banish him to hell. let demons tear him apart.

Hijack his body, transfer his mind into a rat or something.

Use teleportation to scatter his atoms across the the width of the universe.

Imprison him in a surfboard (yes, surfer did this once).

Null out his powers i.e. The Aquarian, break his neck.

Flat out absorb him, add his energies to your own.

All of these things have been done successfully to people on manhattan's level. And there's always the "blink him into nonexistence" route.

High Five for the Aquarian reference.
 
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