Damerman
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This. Edibles are better, smoking it is just annoying.
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Most Overrated and Underrated Drugs?
- Thread starter Andrew Korenchkin
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The only thing caffeine seems to do with me is give me headaches.
Chance Hale
Member
Losing days of time vs stimulant psychosis, neither a good place to be in.
And if you're having to balance one or the other it's likely you aren't the cautious type.
Alcohol is super overrated. If you tell people you don't drink it they get super fucking defensive about it and try to get you drunk the entire night. Shit's annoying, like I've tasted it, it isn't that great, and being uninhibited and losing control isn't something that sounds appealing to me.
Earthbound64
Banned
Example 1
Person 1: (Drinks glass of shitty wine) Wine is shit.
Person 2: You should try a better wine.
Person 1: The counter to criticism of wine is always that one must be drinking shitty wine.
Person 2: But... you are, in fact, drinking shitty wine.
Person 1: Shut up all wine is shit.
Example 2
Person 1: (Smokes bowl of shitty weed) W eed is shit.
Person 2: You should try better weed.
Person 1: The counter to criticism of weed is always that one must be smoking shitty weed.
Person 2: But... you are, in fact, smoking shitty weed.
Person 1: Shut up all weed is shit.
Person 1's argument is just as bad when they make it about cocaine. Or anything that has scaled quality depending on "brand" (dealer) or "label" (supplier).
Now obviously there is shitty coke. But how do you know you're doing shitty coke? The answer is if you bought it from a street dealer, you probably have shitty coke. If you bought it from a friend of a friend, you probably have shitty coke. Results may vary, of course, but the general rule is that the further down the supply chain you purchase from, the worse off you'll be. Every time it passes from one seller to another, it's likely getting cut (other products being combined with it to make a larger yield, and therefore, a larger amount to sell). The less purity, the less likely you'll have the originally intended experience. You'll get high, of course, but maybe the up portion is a little rough, or the euphoria doesn't last, or you crash hard, or a combination.
Nowadays, though, in the age of people who will pay extra for premium shit, you will see higher grade coke available for a higher price, but it's still being cut. Just cut less. That's if they're honest.
The problem with figuring out how good of a sample you have is stems from the lack of regulation (it's illegal, so there's no restrictions in terms of quality that dealers have to abide by) and the lack of testing equipment that an end user has. I mean, even if you do have a kit at home, you aren't going to lug it everywhere you go, and since cocaine is a very socially oriented drug, if you don't plan ahead, you're at the mercy of the integrity of the dealer you get it from and everyone higher than him or her on the cocaine food chain.
But anyway, to my original point, most people who try coke do, in fact, try shit coke (unless they have rich or connected friends that hook them up). Because of that, there's a higher likelihood of not having the optimal experience, or even a really good one.
My friend has bad scoliosis and has to rely on oil pens. No one has ever figured out she does that. They all think she's vaping.
For me that's more enjoyable and I feel better with oil too. I hardly smoke because it gets unpleasant sometimes.
Smoking pot doesn't make you smell forever unless you are straight smoking blunts in the car or something. Get dab rigs or vape pens. I feel like MDMA, at least in my circle of friends, is criminally underrated. Shit is everywhere, isn't something you do more than once a month, and almost always ends up with me having a better time at a concert or festival. People just need to learn to take half.
V curious about your use of "white" in the pejorative here. Is there any basis for that? Outside of pop culture?
I get the feeling a lot of people in this thread don't have the experience to back up their opinions.
For me, most overrated is anything in the amphetamine family, there's no 'high' to it and I always feel like someone has hollowed out my skull and taken a shit in it the next day.
I can't really think of one that is 'underrated' you'll find proponents of anything.
EDIT
Also, for a guy who had his first glass of wine a few days ago, this is a strange thread to make.
For me, most overrated is anything in the amphetamine family, there's no 'high' to it and I always feel like someone has hollowed out my skull and taken a shit in it the next day.
I can't really think of one that is 'underrated' you'll find proponents of anything.
EDIT
Also, for a guy who had his first glass of wine a few days ago, this is a strange thread to make.
CaptainCook
Member
Alcohol is so overrated itÂ’s not even funny. People can say weed but at least there are therapeutic uses and medical uses. Alcohol is effectively poison that alters entire personalities and causes blackouts...your brain fucking goes on autopilot from alcohol if you drink a bit to much, thatÂ’s scary af
I think coke and molly is pretty well common across most demographics at festivals I go to these days. I would say the majority of people at festivals just happen to be white but the group I was with was mostly brown, yellow and black and we doing coke, lsd, and molly.
and I don't know about meth but aderral is pretty awesome for those late nights gambling, assuming you are using it recreationally. Up all night with laser focus.
and I don't know about meth but aderral is pretty awesome for those late nights gambling, assuming you are using it recreationally. Up all night with laser focus.
VenomousCoffee
Member
Caffeine is underrated. Alcohol is overrated.
Underrated: Mushrooms. It definitely opened up a whole new way of thinking to me. Made things alot more clear about life and the world. But you have to set a good amount of time aside and be in a good environment or it can turn bad.
I'm really curious about DMT after all the things I've heard about it.
I'm really curious about DMT after all the things I've heard about it.
old manatee
Banned
overrated: Crack. I don't know how people get addicted to it. It's fun for like 3 minutes and then it's instant cocaine hangover, which is basically the worst feeling in the world.
underrated: green tea. It's like water+.
underrated: green tea. It's like water+.
Earthbound64
Banned
Yeah OP, what are you getting yourself into?
Galactic Barret
Member
Overrated: Cocaine. Hey, want to know what its like to suffer from ADD/ADHD for 15 minutes (If you're lucky), try this stupid, overpriced, over-sensationalized narcotic
Heroin: My God, why would you want to put yourself in that pit of darkness? Take 5 shots of Jack Daniels and lock yourself in the bathroom for a couple of hours. Thats a better use of your time.
Underrated: Molly.
DO YOU FEEL THAT!? I FEEL IT! IT FEELS... AMAZING!!!
Weed: Do you suffer from anxiety, depression, nausea? Can't eat or sleep? Had a bad day? Smoke/Drink/Eat some of this shit. Just make sure your fridge is stocked.
Do not consume and operate a motor vehicle. Duhh.
Heroin: My God, why would you want to put yourself in that pit of darkness? Take 5 shots of Jack Daniels and lock yourself in the bathroom for a couple of hours. Thats a better use of your time.
Underrated: Molly.
DO YOU FEEL THAT!? I FEEL IT! IT FEELS... AMAZING!!!
In Moderation,
of course.
of course.
Weed: Do you suffer from anxiety, depression, nausea? Can't eat or sleep? Had a bad day? Smoke/Drink/Eat some of this shit. Just make sure your fridge is stocked.
Do not consume and operate a motor vehicle. Duhh.
For the love of God, DO NOT SMOKE CRACK! Besides the obvious, its just not a good look.
Neat subject.
Overrated? Alcohol. Completely poisonous, the most intoxicating, smelly, gross, life ruining drug ever. I was an alcoholic for a long time. The stuff Wil literally drive you mad over time.
Marijuana is kind of overrated. Yes it is reasonably safe and very effective for a lot of ailments and not overly intoxicating where you're just fucked up and won't remember anything. I use it medically. But stoner culture is kind of over the top and the holy grail attitude people take with it is ridiculous.
Heroin is overrated. It's always been this penultimate, most demonized and also romanticized drug. It's use is reaching epidemic levels in the west. Fact is, it's just an opiate like any other. Opiates feel great and are very very addictive for a reason, who doesn't want to not feel any kind of pain? Very mind numbing, pleasant drugs to be on.
Heroines not all that though. They're all effective and pills at least you know what you're getting. There's a push in Canada for legalized intravenous Heroin for chronically relapsing addicts. I'm in full support of it. Medical grade and prescribed dope would be much more effective, less dangerous as its measurable and not cut with fentanyl, and offer more control.to addicts live not having to hustle for their dope. Legal Harm reduction programs give lives back when quitting isn't happening. Unfortunately most addicts struggle on some level their whole lives without ever fully quitting intoxicating substances.
Coke is overrated. It's kinda whatever to me.
Meth.. Not overrated per se as it's pretty much universally considered a dirty drug but my God do a lot of people use this stuff! I swear at least half my downtown core is homeless and on meth.
UNDERRATED..
Ketamine. Look up ketamine infusion for depression.
About all I'm willing to type. Not many drugs are really underrated. There's a core group of users pretty much every city everywhere for everything
Overrated? Alcohol. Completely poisonous, the most intoxicating, smelly, gross, life ruining drug ever. I was an alcoholic for a long time. The stuff Wil literally drive you mad over time.
Marijuana is kind of overrated. Yes it is reasonably safe and very effective for a lot of ailments and not overly intoxicating where you're just fucked up and won't remember anything. I use it medically. But stoner culture is kind of over the top and the holy grail attitude people take with it is ridiculous.
Heroin is overrated. It's always been this penultimate, most demonized and also romanticized drug. It's use is reaching epidemic levels in the west. Fact is, it's just an opiate like any other. Opiates feel great and are very very addictive for a reason, who doesn't want to not feel any kind of pain? Very mind numbing, pleasant drugs to be on.
Heroines not all that though. They're all effective and pills at least you know what you're getting. There's a push in Canada for legalized intravenous Heroin for chronically relapsing addicts. I'm in full support of it. Medical grade and prescribed dope would be much more effective, less dangerous as its measurable and not cut with fentanyl, and offer more control.to addicts live not having to hustle for their dope. Legal Harm reduction programs give lives back when quitting isn't happening. Unfortunately most addicts struggle on some level their whole lives without ever fully quitting intoxicating substances.
Coke is overrated. It's kinda whatever to me.
Meth.. Not overrated per se as it's pretty much universally considered a dirty drug but my God do a lot of people use this stuff! I swear at least half my downtown core is homeless and on meth.
UNDERRATED..
Ketamine. Look up ketamine infusion for depression.
About all I'm willing to type. Not many drugs are really underrated. There's a core group of users pretty much every city everywhere for everything
Earthbound64
Banned
This poster also said in this thread that only white people lace weed because of anecdotal evidence so I mean...
Mattakuevan
Member
Ibuprophen (Advil) doesn't usually cause liver damage. It can, however, fuck up your stomach lining and give you ulcers. It can also mess with your Kidneys.
Acetomenophen (Tylenol) is what can severely damage your liver, especially in combination with alcohol.
Either way, be careful with over the counter pain drugs. People often overdose and/or combine them with other drugs/alcohol thinking they're safe.
On topic: Caffiene is somewhat overrated in my opinion. As someone with severe anxiety it can also set off an attack if I have too much at a bad time.
alcohol.
Earthbound64
Banned
Ah, fair enough.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
My increased interest in drugs is what made me want to try alcohol. This question I actually wanted to ask before I tried alcohol, but never get around to it.
I still don't want to actually try a lot or drugs though, even if they interest me.
finalflame
Banned
Just try them all responsibly with friends and do a lot of research about the ones that interest you.
HOWEVER, stay the FUCK away from opiates (pills, heroin), meth, and benzos. Nobody ever needs to try any of that shit, not even once.
Um, are you sure you're doing LSD? Definitely visual.
LSD is my favorite drug, behind only cannabis since I can still function normally. All the strains and their various uses make it unlike any other drug.
parrotbeak
Member
People react differently. I had a couple friends in college who didn't get much out of e. We'd take the same batch and most of us would be rolling our asses off and they would just be normal or even bored.
It's super visual, but not in the way the media presents it.
I like LSD for the long mental trips most though. You can go so deeply into things that it can reorient your direction for a while afterwards.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Poppy seed tea is hugely underrated.
As far as opiates go it is one of the safest ones to partake in, has an extremely low chance of getting you in trouble with the law since you can get the ingredients legally at a grocery store, you can function in public normally while high on it, and it has a built-in anti-addiction mechanism in the form of tasting like putrid shit. The high is really good and lasts hours.
It's still an opiate which means you can still get addicted and therefore it must be approached with respect and caution. But it's a pretty sweet drug that I rarely hear about, I hafta say.
As far as opiates go it is one of the safest ones to partake in, has an extremely low chance of getting you in trouble with the law since you can get the ingredients legally at a grocery store, you can function in public normally while high on it, and it has a built-in anti-addiction mechanism in the form of tasting like putrid shit. The high is really good and lasts hours.
It's still an opiate which means you can still get addicted and therefore it must be approached with respect and caution. But it's a pretty sweet drug that I rarely hear about, I hafta say.
parrotbeak
Member
Is that the one where you have to shake the shit out of it forever to make it?
My advice is to stay away from meth, crack and injecting anything.
If you're going to take something for the first time, try and do it in a comfortable environment with people who can (and know how to) help if things go sideways.
Earthbound64
Banned
I've been on opiates a couple of times and am currently on a benzo (all legitimate prescriptions by legitimate doctors). Never noticed anything on the opiates, and the only thing I noticed with the benzo was withdrawals when I ran out of it one time.
But, of course, everyone is different.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You shake it for 10 minutes in a plastic bottle yea.
I'm am not a fan of anything natural at the moment, too much variance. I have always been the type of guy who measures all ingredients out when cooking or making a cocktail.
Weed I feel is overrated in most parts of the country I have lived, but maybe its just too much exposure to weed culture in high school. Edibles and Vapes look like they may gain a lot of ground if legalization becomes more widespread.
Alcohol is a fun, but I do feel it is overrated. I also feel most people just drink to get drunk too, and never sit down and experiment with new cocktail recipes.
I actually feel stuff like LSD and MDMA were underrated in the areas I grew up (Though it looks like MDMA is super huge in some parts of the US, and the entire UK). There is a lot out there I never have given a try to form any opinion on yet, and like one thing I really like but don't think anyone here would know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Weed I feel is overrated in most parts of the country I have lived, but maybe its just too much exposure to weed culture in high school. Edibles and Vapes look like they may gain a lot of ground if legalization becomes more widespread.
Alcohol is a fun, but I do feel it is overrated. I also feel most people just drink to get drunk too, and never sit down and experiment with new cocktail recipes.
I actually feel stuff like LSD and MDMA were underrated in the areas I grew up (Though it looks like MDMA is super huge in some parts of the US, and the entire UK). There is a lot out there I never have given a try to form any opinion on yet, and like one thing I really like but don't think anyone here would know what the fuck I'm talking about.
finalflame
Banned
Well, if you have a medical reason for it, that's a whole different story. The extent of my benzo experience is taking half a 0.5mg tab of xanax once to come down off a coke binge -- it worked wonders for my comedown and knocked me right out. Honestly the greatest thing to help coming off coke as long as you have not also been drinking.
I meant more so as in "don't try these drugs recreationally". They're physically addictive and can get you into hot shit if you do develop an addiction.
parrotbeak
Member
Oh I remember it being longer than that and not getting much out of it. I don't think we had a proven recipe though, probably just winging it off erowid.
Another thing about Salvia - though my high only lasted for like 20 seconds or something, for about a week I wasn't totally convinced the high had ended. I had this "glow" I guess, or this feeling that it was still affecting me, and then about a week later I finally conceded that I was definitely "back".
Plot twist; I'm still on my Salvia high dribbling in a dorm room in 2007.
Plot twist; I'm still on my Salvia high dribbling in a dorm room in 2007.
parrotbeak
Member
This thread is your subconscious trying to remind you about the final you have to take in 10 minutes. You want to graduate don't you?
umop_3pisdn
Member
Harmala alkaloids (syrian rue, caapi) are severely underrated. Most people just think that they're used to activate oral DMT, and don't know that a large dose has psychedelic or visionary effects of their own. There can be a bit of nausea but you get these near-photographic dreamlike visions, and on top of that it's an antidepressant. It's a pretty interesting drug.
DizzyCaffeine
Member
The only time I did salvia, I felt like I was being sucked into a giant meat grinder. My gf, who was asleep in the next room, woke up to me screaming out for help.
It's, by far, the most unpleasant drug experience I've ever had. And stupid me only did it because I found out I could order it online legally.
i feel like opiates are dangerous but they probably won't kill you
the thing is that it's so easy to get addicted to them (if you're that type of person) that it's probably worth taking the advice to stay away from them at all costs. obviously due to the prevalence of IV heroin and doctors prescribing tons of opioids, it's not a great time in the world to stand up for opiates since they're clearly doing a lot of harm
that being said i dont particularly have a problem with opium in concept
i used to drink poppy tea every so often, that's some next level couch locking. and thats the first time i ever saw the shadow man when i got sleep paralysis, which was cool. only problem is when it makes it so that you feel like you have to pee but you can't, and when you get insomnia after coming off of it. also tastes like death
the thing is that it's so easy to get addicted to them (if you're that type of person) that it's probably worth taking the advice to stay away from them at all costs. obviously due to the prevalence of IV heroin and doctors prescribing tons of opioids, it's not a great time in the world to stand up for opiates since they're clearly doing a lot of harm
that being said i dont particularly have a problem with opium in concept
i used to drink poppy tea every so often, that's some next level couch locking. and thats the first time i ever saw the shadow man when i got sleep paralysis, which was cool. only problem is when it makes it so that you feel like you have to pee but you can't, and when you get insomnia after coming off of it. also tastes like death
Earthbound64
Banned
Fair enough.
I guess it's just always been kind of strange for me, with my having been on so many different medications - various opiates, benzos, oxycontin, etc. and probably some other stuff I don't remember / didn't even know was supposed to be a big deal - and never really noticing anything from any of them.
Chance Hale
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Double post