ShadowKingpin
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I fucking loved it.
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'mother!' earns rare F CinemaScore
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Kain-Nosgoth
Member
glad i didn't watched any marketing about this...
never watch trailer of film i'm interested in
and i loved it¨!
never watch trailer of film i'm interested in
and i loved it¨!
Geno Breaker
Banned
Lol what the fuck
LordOfLore
Banned
Apparently not. She got her full quota and the other big actors got 2-5 million each.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
If you say anime is the most-appealing I might scream.
andythinkpad
Member
Haha suck it Paramount. She probably could still get another nomination though.
I honestly couldn't tell if her acting is good in this movie since she play so against her usual type.
For real? I only saw the visual-less one (I think before Atomic Blonde?), which I guess was the teaser.
Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order
Member
Violence Jack
Member
Not surprised. The friends I know who saw it said that they almost walked out, or that the batshit craziness was just too much. I didn't hate it, but I sure didn't like the last 30 minutes nor do I ever want to see it again. I also didn't feel duped by the trailers because it was best not knowing anything going into it. But Lawrence was fantastic in it.
Drive is a A to me.
Most of my friends would give it a F, even lower, and they constantly joke about it being lame. This is what happen when mass media audience end up watching art movies.
More_Badass
Member
That movie had a protagonist to root for and a hopeful ending for people to feel good about though (he finally becomes free again)
Feel the Swift
Member
Yeah that trailer was horrible. Narrator was very annoying
The normal trailer has me interested now though
Thus may very well be the weirdest thing I have read on GAF.
Like, what about 'Film' doesn't appeal to you?
It is also in a very clear genre, where people feel good about seing it. It is also delivering exactly what it promised.
To be clear, I very much doubt racists would even pay to see that movie just to trash about it afterwards. Like i doubt pro-Nazis went and paid to watch Schindler's list.
The problem with Mother is that some people that would not want to see it if properly informed were misguided and went to see it. Then afterwards they were pissed and trashed the movie.
mugurumakensei
Member
F is whenyou not only botch the work but you turned in an assignment for a different subject.
Messofanego
Banned
Ok, that trailer was lame. It even adds one bit
SPOILERS bump in belly SPOILERS
Huh, must not have noticed it. Since there are only a couple of shots of it.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
It's just data for marketing firms. Theres zero correlation between the cinemascore and quality of the film
I don't see how that post makes me not understand what cinema scores is.
VaultBoy101
Member
Haven't seen it yet but if the casual audiences hate it, it's probably great. Even more excited to see it now.
More_Badass
Member
That moment is in the movie
mugurumakensei
Member
Cinemascores are a factor of what's trendy, marketing( you want to pull in the audience to enjoy it), and movie quality (higher quality movies can pull more from the fringes of people who would be interested).
The primary factors are trendiness and marketing. If people go in expecting comedy and get full on horror, they're probably going to rate it really badly.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
They absolutely advertised this wrong. I saw the trailer before It and already assumed that Aronofsky wasn't going to make a rote horror film, but I heard several people around me saying "oooh, may need to check that out." If those people were to check reviews, they'd have seen scores in line with many other rote horror films, so unless they read the actual articles that made up the metascore, they wouldn't have known to stay away.
I enjoyed it for what it was, though perhaps it could have done with a bit less craft and a bit more continuity, but most of the (admittedly elder at the 130 matinee I attended) moviegoers expressed disgust and disappointment when the credits rolled. I heard the lady left of me say "that was the most pointless horror movie I've ever seen," while the couple behind me said "what did we just watch?"
It's the kind of movie that if you knew it was a biblical allegory going in, you can more easily connect all of the seemingly random happenings in the film with their well known counterparts (the dude's wound on his back - Adam's rib, the sons fighting - Cain and Abel, etc). Not sure how well tickets would have sold for a movie marketed as such, but at least your cinemascore would be populated by people who are open to arthouse wankery rather than people who just wanted to see another horror film with J Law feeling duped.
I enjoyed it for what it was, though perhaps it could have done with a bit less craft and a bit more continuity, but most of the (admittedly elder at the 130 matinee I attended) moviegoers expressed disgust and disappointment when the credits rolled. I heard the lady left of me say "that was the most pointless horror movie I've ever seen," while the couple behind me said "what did we just watch?"
It's the kind of movie that if you knew it was a biblical allegory going in, you can more easily connect all of the seemingly random happenings in the film with their well known counterparts (the dude's wound on his back - Adam's rib, the sons fighting - Cain and Abel, etc). Not sure how well tickets would have sold for a movie marketed as such, but at least your cinemascore would be populated by people who are open to arthouse wankery rather than people who just wanted to see another horror film with J Law feeling duped.
Obliterator
Member
Ah so many takes of "The audience must be wrong!"
Always enjoy those.
Or maybe he created a film that appeals to an extreme niche
Possumowner
Member
Loved Mother,Wolf Creek and Solaris....therefore I'm giving CinemaScore (which I'd never heard of before) a G
Messofanego
Banned
Cinemascore is an American thing, so it could be also since America is a very religious country, that how the film goes is kind of I guess blasphemous so Americans got pissed off? I think that's at least part to it. The main trailer markets it as a domestic invasion thriller and it sticks to that throughout the film, just has a lot more ambition and allegorical elements to it rather than scares and monsters (Conjuring, Insidious, etc).
I bet all Kubrick films would get F Cinemascores if it were a thing back then XD
I bet all Kubrick films would get F Cinemascores if it were a thing back then XD
Isn't that what he's saying with the post?
all transformers movies range from B+ to A
whatever this score is measuring, there's clearly a slant towards movies that are enjoyable for their entertainment value
these films aren't exactly uplifting, but were marketed correctly
gone girl: B
eternal sunshine: B-
nightcrawler: B-
but it does seem like the worst thing you can do is misleading marketing
unbreakable: C
eyes wide shut: D-
This.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Detroit surprisingly got an A-.
That had some fairly honest marketing right
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
But isn't it great when a small movie hits that right spot that appeals to both the mainstream and the niche, like Baby Driver?
That had a 'happy' ending though. Where Brad Pitt 'rescued' him
There is something true about films that don't leave the viewer feeling good about themselves. Hence why so many films chicken out of upsetting endings.
It seems films marketed as straight up horror but that are usually more 'arty' tend to get the worst backlashes.
I mean, the audience is going to be upset when they think Oh, J Law in a spooky home invasion movie this should be good and get blindsided as fuck. An F doesnt reflect the quality of the film at all.
My showing was full of the most bewildered people after the ending, was a great time.
Sure, but do you really not want this way weirder movies to exist?
Karsticles
Member
Who is CinemaScore, and why do I care? It's weird that this gets a thread when I've literally never heard about them before.
Except that T_D is posting about this score as some kind of Trump revenge.
Except that T_D is posting about this score as some kind of Trump revenge.
BabyDriver do not appeal to all markets.
More_Badass
Member
Except the trailer doesn't give that impression at all. "Spooky home invasion movie"? What? Have you seen the typical trailers for home invasion movies; they tend to have a pretty similar template, even the playful ones like You're Next
Ordinaryundone
Member
The movie is only "blasphemous" in subtext. Nobody who actually cares about that sort of thing is likely going to be doing that deep of a reading; unless you actually say the words Jesus 99% of the audience is going to let it go. It's not like unorthodox or critical takes on religion are uncommon in the horror-sphere anyway.
More likely most audiences don't like it for the same reason you hear a lot of divisive opinions on The Witch: it's a very, very slow burn. If you aren't really sold on atmosphere or just prefer your horror to be more aggressive then I can see how you might find the movie boring, at least the first 2/3rds of it.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Of course I do. But deep down I also want these weird movies to be big somehow, even though it's usually impossible. I get real sad every time a Laika movie bombs.
It appealed to enough audiences to do really well over the summer. It was the surprise hit.
My friend said he read a review that claimed they (major spoiler)
. We were going to see it before he read that, now we're not seeing it lol. If an audience went in without knowing that was going to happen, I could see them giving it an F. Even the scene in The VVitch
still made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable (good movie tho). But people in my audience walked out.
Like I really doubt this audience rating deal is anything more complex than a shock moment gone wrong since that kind of thing really upsets people.
eat her one-day-old baby
also about baby killing and did not show anything
Like I really doubt this audience rating deal is anything more complex than a shock moment gone wrong since that kind of thing really upsets people.