of course they're advertising it as a price cut. plenty of people see through it though
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MS: Xbox One June 2014 sales more than double May 2014's sales
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of course they're advertising it as a price cut. plenty of people see through it though
Yoda
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If there wasn't the introduction of a pseudo price cut/new SKU you could probably argue that.
Birgitte2004
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Arrogant Sony for PS3 amounts to an attempt at a very powerful(but expensive) console with a handful of stupid and insulting statements made around launch period.
Arrogant Microsoft made them try to foist off an anti-consumer/pro corporate device, and then give dozens of quotes. Quotes which continue to this day I might add if you get them talking (which is far too easy to do).
And people are worried that Sony is the one who'll return to arrogance?
Not only that did MS also step in and save Plants vs Zombies and Peggle and Fifa and BF4 which all were either exclusive or had exclusive content. I mean it's just a coincidence all these games are by EA.
unless that practical application is to substantially increase interest in the console
What are you trying to say? The Xbox One version of Forza Horizon 2 doesn't seem like a current gen game?
::scratches head::
Who is comparing Destiny to Forza Horizon 2 in this fashion? Of course Destiny has more hype than Forza Horizon 2. The latter is part of a pretty niche genre -- especially in comparison to shooters.
Heh, no. The Xbox One and PS4 aren't that different when it comes to porting games. Third parties want their games on multiple platforms that have large userbases that buy games since that obviously means more sales.
How is it spin doctoring when it's pretty much obvious that sales were really low (under 100K) due to MS revealing the $400 SKU early that month?
On top of that, the system more than likely did better this past month in comparison to if it still was $500.
If you thought TLoU and Beyond were corridor shooters it's pretty obvious why you hated them. That's like saying "Mega Man isn't any good, worst puzzle game franchise ever".
TLoU is a survival horror game that takes place in constrained sandboxes. The handful of actual corridor sections in the game actually fit with the setting.
Beyond is an adventure game in the Quantic Dream style where they render a 3D world to appeal to the average gamer of today but are ultimately trying to make something spiritually similar to the old Sierra adventure games (and I'd say generally doing a passable job, if not up to that gold standard).
Even Uncharted isn't a corridor shooter. It is a 3rd person cover based shooter, but it's less corridor oriented than Gears by a mile and actually includes things like platforming and puzzle solving.
Maybe you should reevaluate how you played these games to think they were of a completely different genre than what they were, before labeling them. Just a suggestion.
Uno Venova
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Why are you defending shit posting on either side?
this is a really weird point to make
Windom Earle
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Haha no. That shit will be crossed off the chalkboard faster than you can say bomba.
It will sell well but people are really overestimating the importance of Halo and HD editions.
Heh, why? My point is that the month that the new cheaper SKU released was going to have higher sales in comparison to the previous month either way -- MS would have stated the increase in sales (not for the purpose of "spinning").
Steverulez
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Destiny is going to make Watch Dogs look like Fable The Journey in terms of sales I think
None of that guarantees that what you're saying would necessarily come true.
What you're suggesting creates a lot of "What if?" scenarios but I think studios and franchises would succeed or fail in the same way they would if it were a 2 console race. I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would prefer a universal platform for everything but I think Microsoft's contributed a lot of good things towards gaming whether people like it or not.
Destiny will be the biggest game of the year next to the new CoD. Why do you think it won't outsell Watch_Dogs?
Not quite that bad, but yea, Destiny is going to outpace watchdogs, and watchdogs is already 8 million+
I agree. I think it would have the same impact as just Halo 2 remaster on its own. At least then they have a few more to raffle off over the years. They don't need to give people that much content all at once.
Uno Venova
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I know Gaf is hyped for it, but what real world indications are there of Destiny significantly outselling 8 million for W_D?
Dragonborn
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It's preorders, iirc, are tracking to be the highest ever for a new IP, that inlcudes WD.
Destiny is going to be huge, it'll be the next big cash cow for Activision, right up there with CoD and Skylanders
It isn't? At least in Xbox threads, it is OK. Nobody gives a shit. I don't see people jumping on those posts with gif meme's etc. And I'm talking about much more ridiculous post, not like the evildede's one.
That Destiny resolution thread is an example. The guy said the game will not be 1080p when the thread title itself says otherwise, coming from Bungie itself. And people still try to argue with him. When in PS4 threads a mod is updating the title every minute to ridicularize who is derailing.
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No, I'm saying worst posts are ignored when its shitting on XB1 and an entire army comes when someone is saying anything negative towards PS4.
I will stop here. Too much people over someone "defending" the poor XB1 is dangerous.
BruceLeeRoy
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You think it will sell less???
jhmtehgamr20xx
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To an extent it's influential, but ultimately companies want to make money. Even if that company exists in a vacuum, they aren't going to shit the bed intentionally because they could essentially drive consumers away. Despite pimp-handling the industry Nintendo still offered a fantastic product in the NES.Imru al-Qays;121462729 said:
Oh and despite Atari, Coleco, Intellivision and all of those guys offering up superb competition for each other way back when, that didn't stop the gaming industry from almost dropping dead in a heartbeat. Yeah, competition doesn't always lead to excellence after all huh...
bigboss370
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NPD is today right?
it's weird because we'll never know how much a single SKU $499 Xbox One would have sold in June so we can never really say with certainty that Xbox One sales in June are higher than they would have been without the cheaper SKU.
I agree it's a safe bet, but it just seems like kind of a weightless point IMO
RustyNails
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Someone answer this. Also what time?
yes today at 6:30PM EST
TheRealTalker
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yes it is
NPD Release: Thursday, July 17th @ 4 p.m. EDT.... Thread posted at 6:30 EST
PsychoSoldier
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Yup. Should get release about 6:30 Eastern, some news will trickle out before.
bear with me for a second here. isn't it plausible that you, as an xbox fan, probably frequent xbox related threads more than playstation related threads?
if thats the case, isn't it also plausible that you see more shit posts about xbox than playstation because you're just generally in threads that invite them?
BruiserBear
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In about 3-4 hours.
It usually goes up once we get the first bit of concrete info on the results. So around 3-3:30 PST I think
bigboss370
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guessing it wont get as much attention as previous NPD threads because of the Destiny beta today
Take it to PM, nobody gives a shit. Thanks.
No, I'm saying that MS is muddying their message by having a previous gen release period. Sony is pushing Driveclub as a next gen exclusive and trumpeting the visuals as a result. MS meanwhile is caught halfway between wanting to push FH2 as a noteworthy next gen title, but with a previous gen iteration coming out. To really push FH2 as a next gen title like Sony can and is with Driveclub MS would have to come one step shy of outright admitting that FH2 360 is a cash grab on gullible previous gen gamers.
Which is why FH2 is a bad choice for cross-gen. LBP3 works because it is a more family oriented game and very few people will buy a PS4 for LBP3. Going cross-gen lets them maximize sales without hurting the core marketing message. FH2 cross-gen shoots that angle right in the damn face because racing games rely heavily on visual fidelity to sell in high numbers.
The quote I posted, which explicitly tried to make the argument that Destiny wouldn't be a system seller for PS4 and especially less so than Microsoft exclusive FH2. Which is wrong on both counts.
No, 3rd parties want their games available to as many gamers as possible. If given the choice between two 70M selling platforms and one 120M platform they would all....
1. Assume that there is at least 20M of overlap and therefore the same sized user base.
2. Select the one that required the least possible work to reach the most possible customers.
3. Realize that that selection is clearly the single console selling 120M units. The only reason 3rd parties want competition is to avoid a Nintendo NES/SNES era of disenfranchisement by the first party. That can't exist today as the outlets to consumers have gotten far too numerous (Steam, Android, iOS, etc.) and the 3rd parties are too powerful for one first party to really stifle them.
Otherwise they're just wasting money servicing multiple hardware configurations while they watch all their media peers (music, movies, books, etc.) publish in effectively the exact same monoform and reap greater profits as a result. We'll end up with effectively a single format before too long as it is what's best for the content providers and content controls the market now.
It is all just a matter of time before consolidation sweeps through the industry and a handful of remaining power players will have to duke it out for supremacy. (which is why MS, Sony, and Nintendo need to grow the hell up and agree on a standardized one console format for next generation ASAP before Apple, Amazon, Google, etc. get big enough in gaming to do the same themselves and choke the others out).
It's classic have your cake and eat it too PR. Last month the massive drop wasn't anything to be worried about, but now the multiples in which it increased over a massively down month is something of note? It's using a previously discounted negative to portrait a larger positive sans-disclaimer and is intentionally designed to feed lazy headline reporting (i.e. video game journalists).
Since MS didn't say triple, 154k is the base line. Between 154k and 231k.
Presumably quite a bit less than 231k, otherwise head have used a different measure like 'over 150%' or similar. 'More than double' sounds like 'only slightly over double and not quite enough to use a bigger measurement'
Neuromancer
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Since no one can actually download and play it, it shouldn't make much difference
RustyNails
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bigboss370
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tons of people already playing.
tons of people already downloading.
everyone else is busy spamming the psn store
spatenfloot
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You are right, Destiny will be even bigger.
Yeah, and Nintendo only had a single generation relatively unopposed and monopolistic before competition, Sega, came in with the Genesis and put an end to any monopoly on console gaming for good. If it isn't MS that Sony is competing with and Sony is making too many mistakes, it will be a company like Apple or Google or Amazon or Valve or Nintendo who will just swoop in and take the PlayStation fanbase for itself. The market will course correct if companies become too monopolistic and they do not provide an essential service.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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They were just hyping up the shrinking performance gap a few weeks ago when the Kinectless SKU made news. And talking about resolution not being a big deal a little after that.
They do stay persistent on that front, that's good to know.
Wait are you saying this sarcastically or asking a question? I don't remember hearing about funding problems w/ any of those games.
Amazon's already kinda at it with Fire TV. I have no idea how well that's performing, tho.
But yeah, I wish more people would realize that sort of obvious fact.
mckmas8808
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I had no idea about this. Can't wait, it'll be fun.
Jimmyfenix
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Yup Destiny at the moment seems like the next big thing.
Isleofsancroy
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Because then them catching up will become an issue.
You're making it to be a bigger deal than it really is.
The One version of Forza Horizon 2 is generally the one people will compare Driveclub to so I think gamers are smart enough to know which version is going to have all the bells and whistles. Undoubtedly Microsoft is going to push the One version more but I don't see how the One version would suffer in any way in terms of marketing it alongside the 360 version.
Regardless of LBP3 being more family oriented that doesn't change the fact that Sony are still doing crossgen titles as well. It's also disingenuous to say that Last of Us and MCC aren't both trying to bring in people who may not have experienced the games last gen for whatever reasons although I think MCC is a way better value comparatively since you get Halo 2 & it's multiplayer which was never remade on top of everything else but that's neither here nor there.
Was being sarcastic. It's silly to think EA and MS weren't all in together at launch.
Blue Ranger
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Why do you say that? "Because activision" is not enough i think
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