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Murdered: Soul Suspect - 1080/30 on PS4 and X1...
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TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Lol
I hadn't heard of this game so I googled it, looks interesting. Is it a full price title does anyone know?
Vinterbird
Member
Standard 60 dollar retail game.
What do you mean proclaimin? we know what the raw specs are its facts rather than opinion. Its just the gap looked even wider than we knew.
$50 PS3/360PC, $60 PS4/XBO. The game was $34 pre-order on PC digital a while back, I think.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
To be fair, both of those options would be terrible
D
Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
I doubt the devs put in much effort in porting this cross gen game. Wasn't it supposed to be just PS3/360/PC at first? This was also a game that was cancelled and revived.
They were developing it for PC too, so it's highly doubtful that their engine is limited to 30 fps. And I know they don't get added effects for free, but that's the whole point. If you're going to make a cross-gen game, put work into it to get those added effects or don't even bother.
Vinterbird
Member
If their budgets weren't allowing for more then doing an upscaled port that's what you're going to get. They don't have a magical tank of infinite money, it's cost/benefit. How much money they expect to gain on making it cross-gen compared to what it would cost.
Cross-gen games aren't going to be super duper looking just because they are on better hardware. It's going to be sharper, high resolution, better textures and that's it. And it will stay like that until developers ditch the previous generation.
aspiegamer
Member
Ick. I understand why the newgen versions are $10 more but it's quite patronizing. Banking in on "dat new hardware experience" worth the extra cash? Sounds like something marketing would play up. If you're going to charge more to play on the new hardware at least make it optimized for that (or originally designed for it) and this was originally announced as a past-gen title.
Anyone looking for a hardware warring excuse based on both versions being 1080p for this one game needs some professional help, especially given 1080/30steady is what we should all be demanding as a minimum for absolutely every new release. "SEE, M:SS IS 1080p FOR BOTH!" doesn't seem like a very potent battle cry.
Will wait for reviews. It looks like it has some promise as some sort of weird Heavy Rain-meets-Fatal Frame thing. Graphics seem appropriate for its style and I respect attempts at unique presentations like this. At worst it looks like the sort of thing that'll end up on PS+ down the road.
Wow, sounds like you really put a lot of thought into this. /golfclap
The only thing worse than a PC elitist is a PC elitist who doesn't even have a basic understanding of computer hardware/spec differences. SMFH
Don't think of it as a "next-gen tax" think of it as a last-gen discount. I mean $60 is the standard price for new console releases. It's not like they are charging $70 on the new boxes.
Tizoc
Member
Cheapst PC pre-order atm is on greenmangaming.
LMFAO XD Looks like I hit a nerve, I'm 100% confident I know a lot more about hardware, APIs, development tools, etc than you. #Baithasbetaken,
Your stupid post suggests otherwise. Instead of trying to troll people and looking like a dumbass maybe you should use your knowledge to help improve the discussion. Just a thought.
I didn't know Albert Penello had an alt account on GAF. Was his main account banned?
The PS4 would probably melt while running this game at 1080p/60 fps.
curlycare
Member
Those consumer rights.
Windom Earle
Member
Melchiah
Member
Tomb Raider was a PS3/360 game as well, yet it took advantage of the available hardware.
EDIT.2: Come to think of it, both games are published by Square, and TR sold twice more on the PS4, eventhough the userbase difference wasn't as much, so... [tinfoil_hat_mode] ...perhaps they don't want the XB1 sales to drag?
EDIT:
I'll be practising my consumer rights, and paying less for a game that takes less advantage of the hardware.
thelastword
Banned
Now I know what type of game it is, but I don't like the idea of devs capping games at 30fps, since this whole judder talk I hope this doesn't become a trend.
Jawmuncher
Member
If you're on consoles locked 30FPS is better than dips or chugs to higher or lower frames. Sure 60FPS is optimal but when we start complaining about the 30FPS as well it's just a problem. This isn't DMC were talking about here. True the case here is probably lazy porting of the title but it's better than being a even worse port.
InsaneTiger
Member
Another cross-gen, multi-platform game, can't say I am surprised. It doesn't look that interesting to me.
Vinterbird
Member
Tomb Raider was a PS3/360 game as well, yet it took advantage of the available hardware.
EDIT.2: Come to think of it, both games are published by Square, and TR sold twice more on the PS4, eventhough the userbase difference wasn't as much, so... [tinfoil_hat_mode] ...perhaps they don't want the XB1 sales to drag?
EDIT:
I'll be practising my consumer rights, and paying less for a game that takes less advantage of the hardware.
Square-Enix is a business, and it is in their interest to make money. All of it. They're not going to do any stupid tinfoil hat crap.
We don't know the situation, but maybe Airtights engine (or is it UE3?) is not capable of more, or the budget simply didn't allow for anything else but 1080/30, it's not like the developers don't want to do more but if their contract says X amount of dollars and time, then that's what they have to play with.
And if you aren't going to be buying any third party titles that don't take advantage of the console, then you aren't buying any at all. Everything is made based around time and budget, not "what is possible, who should we screw with".
Nice one. Finally based @GameInfo has layed the
Can Crusher
Banned
The way the game looks, this should be super sampled on both systems.
That would make a great movie plot
The PS4 would probably output above 40's without any kind of optimisation. By the sounds of it - the dev just doesn't want to do any optimising to hit 60's. Xbone probably the same, just with lower initial frames.
Might want to be careful with that use of the word "can't".
I feel like it's a slightly disengenuous suggestion to make that the consoles "can't" run games at 60fps everytime it's announced that a certain game doesn't.
There are potentially any number of reasons why this game is capped at 30fps that don't necessarily equate to "consoles can't hit 60". I'd wager that allocating extra resource to push for 60fps in a cross generation game that they feel doesn't need it and wouldn't be of significant benefit to the majority of their consumers wasn't made a priority.
PS4 just ain't powerful enough, just like with Thief, only ran at 9 FPS at times *Shakes head*
SJRB
Gold Member
I can't really tell if you're just pushing a shitty joke a bit too far or if you're actually serious.
edit: judging by your post history you're actually serious. Pretty embarrassing.
Melchiah
Member
Given the media coverage on the Tomb Raider differences, I imagine it affected the game's sales on the XB1 to some extent. Whether the PS4 sales compensated for that is unknown to me.
Well, I didn't say I wasn't going to buy the game at all, and considering how most of the 3rd party games have so far been on the platforms, I don't think that would be a problem.
Your post history is fascinating.
The PS4/X1 aren't as powerful as you think they are, especially on the CPU side. Sure, Murdered isn't exactly the visual ceiling for 1080p30 games, but the notion that the current-gen consoles can do 1080p60 at the flip of a switch in most cases and it's those darn lazy devs who are holding back a 60fps renaissance is more than a little fanciful.
Some developers shoot for parity for a number of reasons. Corporate policy, not pissing off Sony/Microsoft, the same team works in both versions, ease of porting etc. Not to mention this is an old, upgraded title. If Dead Nation got an Xbox port, it would be exactly the same.
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