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Mystery Science Theater 3000 Season 11 |OT| It Stinks!

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The wait until I can watch this is killing me.

My dad and I used to watch this show together and luckily he is coming for a visit this coming week, we will be able to watch new MST3K together again.
 
Just finished Movie #3, Time Travelers, and I'm really enjoying this.

Looking through the names of some of the movies coming up and every single movie this season seems like they're all exactly the right fit for MST3K.
 
There's no way this doesn't get another season, right? For no more than what it costs to produce the show (the entire season cost less than ONE EPISODE of Sense8) even if it doesn't expand beyond the niche audience it'd have to be worth it.
 
David H Wong said:
There's no way this doesn't get another season, right? For no more than what it costs to produce the show (the entire season cost less than ONE EPISODE of Sense8) even if it doesn't expand beyond the niche audience it'd have to be worth it.
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I'm sure production cost is factored into it.
Netflix has ratings information that TV Stations could only dream of, every person you direct to watch it that follows through will help it keep going.
 
Whoa, I think I've actually watched Reptilicus on TV (or a video store rental) years ago when I was a little kid.

The only thing I remembered was the very beginning with the drill bringing up that gross, bloody flesh. Rewatching it in MST3K form, it's such a boringly generic monster movie (lead up to monster, monster appears, tons of generic military footage attacking monster for the rest of the movie), but that specific scene was stuck in my memory.

As for the show itself; I'm a massive MST3K fan (one of my all time favorite shows) and I'm enjoying it so far. They're a little fast with the jokes which is off-putting sometimes, and I'm not loving Servo's new voice so far, but he is way better than I remember season 1's Servo being.

Not sure I love flying Servo during the movies yet, but I'm only halfway through the second episode so maybe it'll grow on me. Gypsy is... weird so far. I heard they didn't want her to have a "stupid" voice like in the rest of the series, but maybe because I was a kid, but I didn't really think of her like that and I liked her goofy voice. Again, I'm pretty early on so maybe it'll grow on me, or maybe it'll take another season or two, but I do love having it back on the air and really want to see where it's going.
 
Nerdist "HOW MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000’S NEW SEASON WAS MADE" Article said:
Ray revealed that this writing and recording process allowed for as many jokes as possible. “The riffs are really packed in,” he said. “It’s so many jokes all the time, and not in a way where I think it’s too much. I think it’s kind of close to some of the best episodes, I feel.” For comparison, Ray used the pace of some particularly beloved original series episodes. “[If you look at] Diabolik or Mitchell or This Island Earth, the one from the [MST3K] movie, you notice their pace pretty well. They’ve got more jokes than, say, Manos. There are long gaps and because it’s a terrible movie that’s hard to even talk about. If you watch Manos, even as a Mystery Science Theater episode, it drags at certain spots.”

But making sure there weren’t any Manos-like dragging was a major concern for the group. “At the beginning, Joel was like ‘No, no, you don’t want too many jokes,’ and as we started doing them we’d be like, ‘let’s throw something in there,'” Ray explained
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Should of listened to Joel, Jonah.
 
MST3k could be set in a Midwestern efficiency. The premise doesn't rely on any fantastic elements. Riffing is what matters, and that's done best by friends playing off each other.

The pace of jokes is a little off putting. That many of these jokes are obviously stitched together from separate recording sessions sucks. It's real bad. If a second season is made I hope they have the budget to get at least Jonah and the bots in the same room for a few weeks so they can record everything together.

Wizards of the Lost Kingdom is a movie I watched as a kid. Multiple times. Not ironically. It was a real treat to revisit and to have it get the MST3k treatment.
 
I am not an old MST3K fan, so I don't know if this was the case in be old series, but I've noticed several cases where the jokes come too soon, like before the setup has been made, or in the middle.

The editing needs work for next season, but I like it overall.
 
David H Wong said:
There's no way this doesn't get another season, right? For no more than what it costs to produce the show (the entire season cost less than ONE EPISODE of Sense8) even if it doesn't expand beyond the niche audience it'd have to be worth it.
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It's more likely than not. Given the cost as you've mentioned [IIRC, the cost of one episode of its lowest costly show is only slightly less than this whole season], as well as Joel's love for the series, i can see this getting another season or two with very little problems.
 
Joel Hodgson said:
We've reached a deal with Netflix to distribute MST3K in what our lawyers call "the English-speaking territories," which means you'll be able to watch Mystery Science Theater on Netflix in the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK and Ireland.

This is huge, because we’ve actually never been available outside of North America before.
(Now, if you're not in one of those countries, don't get too worked up yet. We're still looking at more international options. And no matter what, I promise: if your Kickstarter rewards include the new episodes, you will get them at the same time as everyone else, no matter where you live. We're not going to make you wait. You're not second-class citizens! You’re first class all the way.)
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I got Season 11 as a backer, but I'm legitimately worried about watching further seasons from Japan.
 
Bananastand said:
Wait, I just checked and this isn't up on the Dutch Netflix. What gives?
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The show is only available on Netflix in the US, Canada, UK, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. There is (to my knowledge) no legal way to watch the show in other regions.
Mind you, I am not sure if they have bothered to comment on this these past months.

David H Wong said:
There's no way this doesn't get another season, right? For no more than what it costs to produce the show (the entire season cost less than ONE EPISODE of Sense8) even if it doesn't expand beyond the niche audience it'd have to be worth it.
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I don't doubt this will get another season, but keep in mind that Sense8 is available in 241 regions, while MST3K is available in 8.
 
Jake said:
I like it too, but I wish the timing was a little later. If the riffs were all slid a half second later I think it would play better. It never quite feels like they're reacting to the movie, and it's made more noticeable (and all the more frustrating it wasn't fixed) by my knowledge that the riffs are assembled in an editing room.
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Yeah, this is my only real issue so far. I feel like the jokes are hitting exactly as the scene occurs, which makes them feel less natural.
 
Gypsy is dropping off a picnic lunch.

They just need to explain how he breathes and all the plot holes will be tightly plugged up like one of my expanded universe Star Wars novels.
 
Shard said:
Time Travelers is the worst kind of bad, boring bad, even the riffs are not making it interesting.
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I kind of dug it. It was fun seeing how many magic tricks they tried to fit into the movie for no real reason. Terrible ending though. I wonder if it was changed at some point. Seemed like a tacked-on happy ending.
 
Venture said:
I kind of dug it. It was fun seeing how many magic tricks they tried to fit into the movie for no real reason. Terrible ending though. I wonder if it was changed at some point. Seemed like a tacked-on happy ending.
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They actually cut the ending for MST3k where in the original it starts over looping again and again faster and faster
 
forgeforsaken said:
They actually cut the ending for MST3k where in the original it starts over looping again and again faster and faster
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That's pretty damn cool. I would think they wouldn't have to worry about cutting the films so much anymore, without the time constraints of commercial TV.
 
Venture said:
That's pretty damn cool. I would think they wouldn't have to worry about cutting the films so much anymore, without the time constraints of commercial TV.
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The Netflix episodes are all almost exactly 90 minutes. I think they want the show to be usable on regular TV, but they also (probably correctly) must think that any longer than that would outstay its welcome for a lot of people.
 
Jake said:
The Netflix episodes are all almost exactly 90 minutes. I think they want the show to be usable on regular TV, but they also (probably correctly) must think that any longer than that would outstay its welcome for a lot of people.
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Yeah it's a little weird that they even have built-in commercial breaks.

I assume that the Netflix deal did not happen until the show was well into production, and they were hoping to shop it around to various television networks. Maybe next season they will try to play around with the length and formatting.
 
border said:
Yeah it's a little weird that they even have built-in commercial breaks.

I assume that the Netflix deal did not happen until the show was well into production, and they were hoping to shop it around to various television networks. Maybe next season they will try to play around with the length and formatting.
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Most likely for syndication. Even though it hasn't happened yet with Netflix original shows, i'm sure if a show is a hit, there is the possibility down the line Netflix can shop it around and make more money. Would be worse to have to edit something from Netflix down, rather than keep it as-is.
 
rec0ded1 said:
It was starcrash for me
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Yeah, it's the "If the movie is boring, not even riffing can save it" rule in effect, so far my least favorite episodes of this season have been Time Travelers and Starcrash. The Loves of Hercules is down there too, but it had enough awful scenes (
that cheap-ass Hydra that kills by making people awkwardly bump into it
) that it wasn't a complete snooze fest (plus, ya know... Jayne Mansfield
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).

In my opinion, there's only so many times you can poke that era of bad science fiction; at a certain it's not interesting to watch them make fun of people in bad costumes flying through space speaking lame jargon in front of cruddy special effects again (I can sit down and riff on the Prequels myself if I want that). There's only so many times you can riff on that sort of thing before it just stops being terribly amusing. Even something like a generic disaster movie (Avalanche was another one I enjoyed) stands out because it's just... something different.

I've always said MST3K is best when they're scraping the bottom of the barrel with weird shit like Cry Wilderness (my favorite so far), The Final Sacrifice (literally a $2000 student film) and Manos (a movie made on a bet), where the movie itself is so awful that you want to watch it just to see how bad it crashes and burns. With stuff like Starcrash, it's just another schlocky, vaguely 60s / 70's sci-fi flick like so many we've seen before... I dare say it's even in the realm of semi-competent film making for that era, they've watched so much worse.
 
Rukes said:
Most likely for syndication. Even though it hasn't happened yet with Netflix original shows, i'm sure if a show is a hit, there is the possibility down the line Netflix can shop it around and make more money. Would be worse to have to edit something from Netflix down, rather than keep it as-is.
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90 minute episodes are already too long for syndication though. Most networks are pretty wary about devoting a 2 hour block to any one show. Comedy Central even chopped up episodes into 1-hour blocks when they ran reruns ("The Mystery Science Theater Hour").
 
I finally watched Episode 1 last night, and I absolutely loved it. The amount of people saying Episode 1 was disappointing, etc, gives me so much hope about the rest of the season.
 
Of the movies they watched so far, Reptillicus was hilariously dumb, Cry Wilderness was wonderfully weird and Time Travellers was oddly interesting but not feeling too confident about Avalanche so far.

Seems like its going to be pretty aggressively boring but rooting for them to mine something good out of this one.
 
These painfully obvious miniature tank action scenes in Yongary are killing me.
Holy shit. This is great stuff.

Edit:
lmao
The last 30 minutes of Yongary is just a guy in a monster suit stumbling around like a confused drunk.
 
Watched Cry Wilderness today. Loved the riff this time around way more than the first
BANG!
film, even if the movie itself was god awful. The constant out of focus shots, the weird cuts, discount mesh shirt Rambo, and that bigfoot costume
BANG!
made for great riffs and a very long ass movie.

Makes me excited for what else they have in store this season.
Haha I got you there
BANG!
 
mjc said:
Cry Wilderness makes even less sense than Manos.
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It was all a ploy by Red Hawk to lure the big game hunter to a location where they could get revenge on him for killing the animals of the wild. Paul is just a pawn, and the father was never in danger.
 
David H Wong said:
There's no way this doesn't get another season, right? For no more than what it costs to produce the show (the entire season cost less than ONE EPISODE of Sense8) even if it doesn't expand beyond the niche audience it'd have to be worth it.
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This was a Kickstarter project first, so who knows.
 
Finished watching Cry Wilderness.

It's so cool they were able to get Pearl, Bobo, and Brain Guy back, but it makes me wonder why they're back together, considering they split up at the end of the Mike era. Not to mention they're not at Castle Forrester anymore.
 
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