Seems ridiculous, but what do I know.
I guess if you are already in the frame of mind where you are willing to spend dev time due to a ratings board, you probably are likely to only want to make 1 sku as well.
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Namco censors Tales of Berseria despite insisting they won't
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Seems ridiculous, but what do I know.
I guess if you are already in the frame of mind where you are willing to spend dev time due to a ratings board, you probably are likely to only want to make 1 sku as well.
thestopsign
Member
I must be one of the few people that couldn't give a shit about minor censoring.
It's only hard to imitate if you don't put effort into it!
Yeah they do, no worries there.
Xenoblade didn't suck, it wasn't that great, but Ep 3 was certainly better. That said, they hve made a better game than XS3, and it's called Xenoblade X
If it's only the one scene I'll still buy it I guess.
Valdfellgar
Banned
Rating boards need to be fixed. It's BS how inconsistent they are.
If it comes down to censor or lose your rating and a large part of your userbase, I can understand why they would do it. Although I would assume this means other versions are NOT censored?
That said,
I really haven't enjoyed a Tales game since Vesperia (I did make my way through Graces, but I never bothered to finish Xilia or Zestiria) and shit like this doesn't make me want to jump back into the series.
That said,
Wow what an edgy game
e- LOL
Anime
I really haven't enjoyed a Tales game since Vesperia (I did make my way through Graces, but I never bothered to finish Xilia or Zestiria) and shit like this doesn't make me want to jump back into the series.
StrikeNinja24
Banned
The companies believe that making a video game that's hard for kids under the age of 18 to get would in fact hurt sales. They are most likely following movie rating rules, where movies that are more kid friendly tend to outsell more adult oriented movies. However, it seems like M rated games at least 5 years ago were small in quantity, but ranked well in sales. http://techland.time.com/2011/03/21/games-rated-mature-are-made-less-bought-more/
Another probability is that Namco doesn't want to field complaints from parents why their kid just saw a child being impaled on a sword.
Fbh
Member
Looking at the video.
Censorship sucks, but at least they put some effort into it. At least they made a whole new kill animation rather than just some camera or color edit which looks weird
"Honey, it's been 4 hours, are you still not ready?"
"Almost ready, just have to put on these 6 belts on my legs and I'm done"
Is that the oficial outfit?
Was kinda interest in the game..... but looking at this I hope there is some optional censorship feature for her clothes
Censorship sucks, but at least they put some effort into it. At least they made a whole new kill animation rather than just some camera or color edit which looks weird
"Honey, it's been 4 hours, are you still not ready?"
"Almost ready, just have to put on these 6 belts on my legs and I'm done"
Wow what an edgy game
e- LOL
Anime
Is that the oficial outfit?
Was kinda interest in the game..... but looking at this I hope there is some optional censorship feature for her clothes
End of the prologue spoiler so early in the game still.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
.OP said:
Would need one of our importers to confirm, but I heard that you can use this costume pretty early into the game:
Yeah you start with that outfit in the prologue then you can put it back on like 30-45 minutes into the main story.
After that you won't see it again outside of skits which don't really emphasize anyone's outfits, and animated videos which they barely used this time around in favor of in game cutscenes.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
thats a little disappointing to hear. Not especially, but I like animated FMVs in tales
does she get any other non DLC alts. I doubt I'd use anything but the default but im curious
Sucks that they cant make the change only in the regions they were struggling with ratings, but I wont really fault them for that, Also
really classy, and I mean that seriously
Yeah can't be mad then. They didn't have a choice.
Ah, it was in the OP. I thought this was going to be about costume censorship or something.
LordGorchnik
Member
Appreciate the response. Still going to wait until it's on sale. Still haven't picked up Zesteria for that matter but I hear it is not very good so may wait until I see it for $10 on Steam or so.
Edit: Can we also update the title showing a response was received.
Edit: Can we also update the title showing a response was received.
Cornbread78
Member
I don't know, the English version could be considered even more destructive. There's no blood in either version. The Limbo comparison is pretty good although the aggressor being a human male verses a monster..
Comparison *obvious spoiler for into scene if you haven't alreasy watched it*
https://youtu.be/KMqNcO_4rzM
Also, Japanese VAs sound better once again....
agreed. Not as artistic as well.
Comparison *obvious spoiler for into scene if you haven't alreasy watched it*
https://youtu.be/KMqNcO_4rzM
Also, Japanese VAs sound better once again....
agreed. Not as artistic as well.
AlexFlame116
Member
Here you go. Hope you like it.
Anyways, by the comments here, something tells me that I shouldn't try Zesteria. I mean, I really didn't want to because of something in the game but I guess gameplay isn't good either? Or is it the story?
I kinda want to try Berseria now but isn't it a prequel to Zesteria?
Berseria will have Dual-Audio.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Zestiria was bad all around, bad combat, terrible convoluted character progression mechanics, awful story, awful characters, boring as fuck giant open areas.
What do I know though, I thought xenoblade chronicles was atrocious
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Zestiria isn't great but it's alright, kinda. You won't miss much by skipping it. It's mostly just characters showing up.
Cornbread78
Member
AlexFlame116
Member
Cornbread78
Member
I don't know, outside of the lame skill sets, I still liked Zestiria and had some fun with it. I do realize it had some faults that would drive people crazy, but the story and characters were OK and Edna's personality was the best!
If you can get it cheap it may be worth the play through. It's also on sale again in the Holiday sale.
FYI:
Berseria is better in every facet; yes, it's not a direct prequel, but there are some common characters/themes
Wow what an edgy game
e- LOL
Anime
It's stuff like this that makes me avoid certain games, and more jrpg seem to lean this way compared to others. It's not even the sexy revealing nature of the outfit. Her whole outfit is just so busy and ridiculous.
The story is extremely generic even by Tales standards, and I didn't like the cast as much as the Xillias. They tried to add more depth to the gameplay systems but just ended up over complicating things.
There's also a character that leaves the party fairly early on, presumably to sell DLC and that annoyed a lot of people, particularly in Japan (I actually preferred her replacement)
Honestly I'd go back and play Xillia 1 if you haven't already
ShadowSoldier89
Member
based on what I've seen, berseria seems better all around. And Cristina Vee is in it, and I'm a sucker for anything shes in
Its like 1000 years prequel or some shit
Havent played it
Ludger Kresnik
Member
re: Zestiria, if anyone is interested in following its story/characters without playing the game, you could just watch the recent anime series. It's more of a retelling than an adaptation, so nothing really got compromised.
Shifty1897
Member
Good to know that I'll be playing this game in secret and never around my friends/girlfriend/family. Thanks JRPGs.
AlexFlame116
Member
Thanks for the responses guys! Guess I'll skip Zesteria. I have Symphonia 1 and Dawn HD along with Xillia, Graces F, and Hearts R but I haven't played those either. Guess I'll start somewhere!
Wait, Shantae is in this?!?! Okay this is on my list now.
Fair enough. I haven't either yet.ShadowSoldier89 said:
MrSaturn99
Member
So it was ratings. Kudos to Namco for coming out on this, regardless.
Pretty much all this, alongside a horrendous engine and slowdown/sound glitch issues. It's the culmination of everything gone wrong with Tales over the past half-decade and it shows.
I was already done with Tales, but Berseria being a prequel ensured I wouldn't touch it (new and full-price, at least).
Pretty much all this, alongside a horrendous engine and slowdown/sound glitch issues. It's the culmination of everything gone wrong with Tales over the past half-decade and it shows.
I was already done with Tales, but Berseria being a prequel ensured I wouldn't touch it (new and full-price, at least).
kunonabi
Member
I appreciate them being upfront and responsive about the issue unlike Nintendo and Capcom. I'm still getting the Japanese version but I hold no resentment towards them for the decision even if I still think that going for the lower rating isn't worth it on the long run.
Cornbread78
Member
Good point. The 1st cour has been completed and the 2nd cour starts soon to complete the story. There are 2 specific Berseria episodes in there with story pieces that take place int eh first hour or so of the game though.
It can be streamed via Funimation with a subscription or via the Daisuki app for free.
"Tales of Zestiria the X"
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I played it on PC and the port felt great. easy 60FPS constant at least. So no complaints there
Yea shes velvet. I look forward to seeing her in a less cutesy or naive role
cj_iwakura
Member
That they actually acknowledged it was very admirable of them.
For what it's worth I think Berseria has the best cutscene direction in the series by far (might not mean much in a general sense but this is a Tales game lol) and a few other people noted the improvement in quality.
Not a complete replacement for that though, they still use it for really important moments and stuff that they likely wouldn't be able to make look all that good with in game graphics.
Japanese RPGs in general the past few years seem to use CG/Animated FMVs less than they used to. It's an interesting shift in presentation I've been noticing lately. I guess it's just a result of technology getting better and more affordable.
As for costumes she has some but they're kinda meh to me.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
aight, default it is. That pirate one looks ok but nowhere near the default
AlexFlame116
Member
Aw I like Shantae...
It's cool that she's Velvet. I'll have to look at some gameplays or scenes with the character.
Aw hell Sailor Mars is Velvet? That's dope.
piratethingy
Self professed bad raider
chuckle every time i see that clickbaity tittle back at the top of the page
Namco censors Tales of Berseria Cutscene despite insisting they won't censor a specific outfit.
Namco censors Tales of Berseria Cutscene despite insisting they won't censor a specific outfit.
It's quick for her. She just puts a bandage on the end of her hair and goes.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
did you read it at all? Sure the wording works in the favor that they only promised the outfit, but when you say
you are not talking about just the outfit. The promise in the next line specified the outfit, and honestly at that point they probably didnt even know they were changing the scene.
They may have changed that as well
Would need one of our importers to confirm, but I heard that you can use this costume pretty early into the game:
That costume is awesome. I'm totally down for crazy anime bullshit, but I just like this one so much more.
SliceSabre
Banned
I give them props for at least responding and explaining why they did it unlike other companies. I moreso put the blame on the ESRB for being inconsistent when it comes to their violence rating.
bobbychalkers
Member
Aside from the inconsistency at the end, I actually prefer the western version.