CJ_75
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They never did so they can continue working on it for the next 10 year.Delay?
When did they announce a date for factions?
They never did so they can continue working on it for the next 10 year.Delay?
When did they announce a date for factions?
Many devs are knee deep in sunk cost fallacy with the Royale Looter Extraction genre coming to an end. I bet a lot of projects are getting the side eye. I'm hoping Rocksteady had the bones of an SP game at some point they can scramble back to with Suicide Squad. TLOU2mp.exe probably uses a lot of TLOU2 assets so I don't know what would be salvagable for ND.Just going to add originally that the tweet saying "it grew beyond our original scope" should've rang alarm bells. It was screaming feature creep and it literally said so, they should've just cut the shit out and just improved on what they had. Or 2, a Fortnite style map that plays host to whatever you want to do with it. This almost sounds it's a brand new game at this point and I think it's not worth waiting for, cancel it and let's move on.
Like I said already in other threads, Sony are morons.
Why are you making teams who have pretty much perfected a certain style of game and putting them on GAAS crap?
Also making good and successful GAAS games is not easy or cheap. 99% fail, you need to get lucky to be successful. Fornite becoming what it has is pure luck combined with right time right place. The game wasn't even intended to be what it's become.
Jim Ryan and Hulst are wasting everyones time, this will be Playstation's Halo Infinite.
People can only see one side of things. i glad this is happening. We can finally to see where each company is confuse is on.Funny Microsoft is investing on Singleplayer experiences like Starfield and Sony is moving to crap GAAS market.
If Phil manages to show 2 or 3 new good IPs on next show some alarms should ring on Playstation HQ.
Because besides of Spiderman Sony has nothing and those GAAS are a risky bet...
huh?Because besides of Spiderman Sony has nothing and those GAAS are a risky bet...
Sony released a 94 Metacritic singleplayer game 6 months ago. Let's get Microsoft there before we get in our bunkersFunny Microsoft is investing on Singleplayer experiences like Starfield and Sony is moving to crap GAAS market.
If Phil manages to show 2 or 3 new good IPs on next show some alarms should ring on Playstation HQ.
Because besides of Spiderman Sony has nothing and those GAAS are a risky bet...
People shat on Phil Spencer for not delaying/canceling Redfall now people shit on sony for the re-evaluation of a project that's not up to snuff....#gamers
Sony would be better off having Bungie, Haven and Firewalk handle those games
"Who cares if Redfall is shitty?, MS are making money with Minecraft anyway"who cares Sony is selling PS5 units and making money and its going to make more money from those Live Service games.
Was factions supposed to release with TLOU2 or am I trippin? I’m surprised they never got any backlash on that
Scale it down how? Just 11 months ago Druckmann:
'This game is big as big as any of our single player games'
what hurts the most is that so much time and effort is being put not even into a traditional bombastic single player experience that ND are best at
their resources are being poured into a fucking live service game, i hate the new era of PlayStation
I'm merely making a prediction.
They could still go with the large GaaS route, but we don't know a lot about the project to see what's really going on. If a lot needs to be changed (going in a new direction), then I could see them just scaling the project down instead of spending years revamping the project.
Christ, you are not slick.
While Sony on other hand is investing on 12 live service games, MS can get their shit together by releasing those SP games. Especially with how much studios they have now.Sony released a 94 Metacritic singleplayer game 6 months ago. Let's get Microsoft there before we get in our bunkers
The fact is, game quality DONT MATTER to sony.
Bungie said that they found out the game is DOES NOT HAVE ABILITY TO KEEP THE PLAYER COMING BACK.
It might be the best game in the world but if it's not making money for 3 fucking years with players constantly engaging... then it's not enough.
I am sick of this maximizing profits. Everything has to be played forever. Good game is not enough
Scale it down how? Just 11 months ago Druckmann:
'This game is big as big as any of our single player games'
this reads like a jokeJeez, Sony took a massive L this week. They were riding so high.....I think they need to scramble some thing together now becuase you can't have months of silence again after an L like this. The confidence is already shaken.
Their studios have already revealed everything they're working at, don't make much expectations because those Studios ain't doing anything else anytime soon.Funny Microsoft is investing on Singleplayer experiences like Starfield and Sony is moving to crap GAAS market.
If Phil manages to show 2 or 3 new good IPs on next show some alarms should ring on Playstation HQ.
Because besides of Spiderman Sony has nothing and those GAAS are a risky bet...
Jeez, Sony took a massive L this week. They were riding so high.....I think they need to scramble some thing together now becuase you can't have months of silence again after an L like this. The confidence is already shaken.
I will never grasp a concept how can a gaas game be good if it's kinda never finished and never letting you "finish it". It's just perplexing.Live service absolutely does
Plenty of great playing live service games have failed due to lack of content updates
SP can succeed through high retail sales. Live service is just a different beast
I would say is madness too, but again people get called crazy around the rumors of the remake of TLOUS.
And lets not forget that rumor about Sony making the remake of Horizon Zero Dawn for PS5.
What a fucking waste of money.
So this gen from ND we are getting
TLOU1 Again
The Last of Us GAAS
Probably a new IP cross gen with Ps6
yay!
They also bought them super cheap.
$229 million for the studio that's almost single handedly carrying the Ps5.
It's crazy how you just jump a few years forward and now any shitty devs is selling for like $1billion.
The game would've been akin to The Division in terms of scope, with a narrative aspect. You don't scale down a game like that. You tear it apart or you cancel it.
I will never grasp a concept how can a gaas game be good if it's kinda never finished and never letting you "finish it". It's just perplexing.
None of gaas games I've checked out were interesting. They felt like overly long, never ending shows compared to a good movie. (no, not like braking bad of got)
I work in a corporation and I see this all around with most game companies. it is not enough to profit. It is not enough to profit +10% each year. You must profit 10, 11, 12, 13% more each year. Constantly INCREASE profit. And this does not goes well with creative output
this reads like a joke
Their W will be FF16 in a few weeks and then SM2 later in the year
The fact is, game quality DONT MATTER to sony.
Bungie said that they found out the game is DOES NOT HAVE ABILITY TO KEEP THE PLAYER COMING BACK.
It might be the best game in the world but if it's not making money for 3 fucking years with players constantly engaging... then it's not enough.
I am sick of this maximizing profits. Everything has to be played forever. Good game is not enough
I will never grasp a concept how can a gaas game be good if it's kinda never finished and never letting you "finish it". It's just perplexing.
None of gaas games I've checked out were interesting. They felt like overly long, never ending shows compared to a good movie. (no, not like braking bad of got)
I work in a corporation and I see this all around with most game companies. it is not enough to profit. It is not enough to profit +10% each year. You must profit 10, 11, 12, 13% more each year. Constantly INCREASE profit. And this does not goes well with creative output
Now this news, this is like halo infinite Craig showcase levels of Ls...2 to 3 years of goodwill just shat away.
Because its a social game. You communicate with strangers and friends, while playing the game.I will never grasp a concept how can a gaas game be good if it's kinda never finished and never letting you "finish it". It's just perplexing.
None of gaas games I've checked out were interesting. They felt like overly long, never ending shows compared to a good movie. (no, not like braking bad of got)
I work in a corporation and I see this all around with most game companies. it is not enough to profit. It is not enough to profit +10% each year. You must profit 10, 11, 12, 13% more each year. Constantly INCREASE profit. And this does not goes well with creative output
They are working on a new game. Possible tlou3.Yeah, but what I mean is. It's been a rough week for them...you can't take the silent approach again if you are Sony.....you wait 20 months to show people....SM2 that doesn't really look that much better than the ps4 game.
Now this news, this is like halo infinite Craig showcase levels of Ls...2 to 3 years of goodwill just shat away.
They need to counter with something ASAP.
Pretty sure those 12 games by 2025 or whatever it was included an MLB every year so it's not that drasticThat’s what I think as well
Do 4 big GaaS and give it your best attempt with GaaS focused studios. Don’t waste ND or GG time making GaaS
12 live service games or whatever their target was simply won’t work and is destined to fail
Read the letter again.what hurts the most is that so much time and effort is being put not even into a traditional bombastic single player experience that ND are best at
their resources are being poured into a fucking live service game, i hate the new era of PlayStation
Yeah, but what I mean is. It's been a rough week for them...you can't take the silent approach again if you are Sony.....you wait 20 months to show people....SM2 that doesn't really look that much better than the ps4 game.
Now this news, this is like halo infinite Craig showcase levels of Ls...2 to 3 years of goodwill just shat away.
They need to counter with something ASAP.
Jeez, Sony took a massive L this week. They were riding so high.....I think they need to scramble some thing together now becuase you can't have months of silence again after an L like this. The confidence is already shaken.
Their studios have already revealed everything they're working at, don't make much expectations because those Studios ain't doing anything else anytime soon.
Not really at all….no
This is just the hardcore bubble who hate anything GAAS. I do tooThis is all dominating the news cycle to a similar level...maybe I'm miss remembering.
I don't think there's the xbox pile on happening which is nice as there's nothing an xbox fan has the right to rip Sony for, like what happened with Craig. But, it does feel like even Sony fans like kinda funny have been reaming them.
When's ffxvi out? Hopefully that can get the sentiment back on track.
You do realize this is a silly thing to say right?Funny Microsoft is investing on Singleplayer experiences like Starfield and Sony is moving to crap GAAS market.
If Phil manages to show 2 or 3 new good IPs on next show some alarms should ring on Playstation HQ.
Because besides of Spiderman Sony has nothing and those GAAS are a risky bet...