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Naughty Dog Announces Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet

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Year 1997.

Does anyone object to this?
In 1997 it was a bold creative choice (and career move) to have a sex symbol like Demi Moore shave her head, get jacked, and play a Navy Seal.

In 2026 the whole "tough, stereotype-defying Strong Woman without an ounce of beauty or femininity" thing is so cliche and played out. The "girlboss" trope is insufferable. And all this usually comes with some culture war bullshit attached to it, which we are already seeing.

I haven't completely written the game off yet but I definitely rolled my eyes seeing the trailer with this chick buzzing her hair then sitting there with a smug, cocky look on her face.
 
In 1997 it was a bold creative choice (and career move) to have a sex symbol like Demi Moore shave her head, get jacked, and play a Navy Seal.

In 2026 the whole "tough, stereotype-defying Strong Woman without an ounce of beauty or femininity" thing is so cliche and played out. The "girlboss" trope is insufferable. And all this usually comes with some culture war bullshit attached to it, which we are already seeing.

I haven't completely written the game off yet but I definitely rolled my eyes seeing the trailer with this chick buzzing her hair then sitting there with a smug, cocky look on her face.
If this stuff was ever popular in culture, it sure as shit isn't now. And it's a reliable tell as to what the rest of the game will be. Nobody wants to see some girlboss with a bad attitude cosplaying as a tough guy. It's so played out. It's not interesting, it's not good, it's predictable.

Of course you have people playing dumb like we all didn't just see what Druckmann did with TLOU tv and sequel.
 
Lets not forget the next scene

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Extremely short hair is, across MANY cultures, a masculine attribute. Women with it are, almost universally, thought to be masculine, sick, or shooting for attention.

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^^^^^^^trying to get attention

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^^^^^^sick (in the head).

Maybe there are some cultures where the shaved head look is considered beautiful, or at least a normal style, for women, but it ain't anywhere in the west or east AFAICT.
 
Or we can laugh at the woke stuff and still enjoy the good stuff in the game, things are not always just black or white.

Life is too short to not buy any game with woke shit in it, especially if you like western games.
Or life is too short to play games with woke stuff in it.
 
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She looks beautiful even with no hair in Last of Us but here's the thing: The showrunners wouldn't even allow her to appear with no makeup in a post-apocalyptic survival show. If she looked like this in game, there'd be way less complaints.
 
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Chances that this game won't be woke are slim to none. Alpha cuck is behind it:

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That wasn't what was asked though, that's an assumption, what, in that trailer, is woke? I think its a great trailer personally, tech, tone, aesthetics, audio, the only thing we dont get is (much) gameplay, now I may be biased because I like every Naughty Dog game since Uncharted (not a huge fan of Crash, but only ever played Crash 1), and my favourite band is Nine Inch Nails
 
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Or life is too short to play games with woke stuff in it.
Most of the times they have many redeeming quality and i'm not one of those people who could only play japanese games for the rest of my life, i generally prefer western games but they are almost all woke to an extent so you really have no mich choice if you enjoy AAA.

If i can get my enjoyment from both laughing at the woke stuff in a forum and enjoying the gameplay of a game it's a win win for me :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 
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Ain't like the requirements for "woke" are strict so I have no doubt you are right for folks who see woke everywhere

Last of Us 2 with female terminator as MC, "bigot sandwich" and trans/queer/whatever kids being persecuted in a world that should only care about survival (they have time for this shit?) was already one of the wokest games of early 2020s.
 
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She looks beautiful even with no hair in Last of Us but here's the thing: The showrunners wouldn't even allow her to appear with no makeup in a post-apocalyptic survival show. If she looked like this in game, there'd be way less complaints.
She does though doesn't she? there isnt much difference, in fact, testament to how darn good that facial modelling/motion capture really is
 
Last of Us 2 with female terminator as MC, "bigot sandwich" and trans/queer/whatever kids being persecuted in a world that should only care about survival (they have time for this shit?) was already one of the wokest games of early 2020s.

Not debating all that shit again. If Intergalactic is woke I'll say so but I need more than a hairdo. If that is all you require then you do you
 
Not debating all that shit again. If Intergalactic is woke I'll say so but I need more than a hairdo. If that is all you require then you do you

No, I don't judge "woke or not" right now, this will happen close to release. But all the signs (Druckman, how MC looks, Sony being woke, how her and the other girlboss behave etc.) so far are pointing into that direction.

It's a ND game so I will probably buy it anyway even if the game end up being extremely woke (even just to see the tech), they were my favorite developers in the Jak era.
 
Hopefully she's bad ass and memorable and not just a vehicle for agenda pandering.
There will always be an aspect of agenda. Every fictional character is created within a specific cultural framework; desires, background, and conflicts are vehicles for the dominant or subversive ideologies of the era in which the author writes.

It's important that it's not ONLY or JUST that or we step into the territory of didacticism. The character still needs to make independent, believable choices. If they don't and only act as plot devices or walking ideologies it'll distances the player from the narrative's emotional core.

As much as many people want it to be, you can't exclude politics from games when they tell (complex) stories with (complex) characters.

Obviously games like Pong are pretty much apolitical unless you want to make a weird case about the frictional forces between white upper class tennis players playing in front of an all-black background that symbolises the meaningless of said sport and the sheer ugliness of it. (/s)

The whole vengeance genre, for instance, is very much political. In what instances do we tolerate street justice and why? When we don't trust our judicial system? When we think that street justice is quicker and more "just"? When it offers this satisfying feeling of having power over someone? When it shows that we have the moral high ground? Or when we know that we're acting amorally but still – or because of it – feel good about it?

Such a game wouldn't have the same impact on a player in a society where street justice is just as normal as brushing your teeth.

Personally, I hope, ofc, that there's more to Intergalactic than Neil's personal agenda. But I doubt that Sony finance a hundreds of million dollar project that is ultimately only a thesis game where every character is just a vocaliser of his personal beliefs.

On the other hand, we have Dragon Age The Veilguard where no character was allowed to give any kind of friction apart from the faceless ultra-baddies. And that game wasn't cheap. But not from ND, either.

We just have to see.
 
"Chances", not "it 100% will be very woke".

The real question is "how much woke it will be?". Let's be real here with modern Sony and ND...
Uncharted 4? (or is Uncharted 4 considered old now, even though they have only made Lost Legacy (which is an Uncharted 4 spinoff and also not woke) and Last of Us Part 2 since)

I'm not saying it will or will not be woke but I'm certainly not going to jump to assumptions.
 
Might be the worst character design in Naughty Dogs history. Jak and Daxter, Uncharted 1-4, Last 1+2 even Jak and Daxter X: Combat Racing. Really good character designs for the main character. This new one is a little too boring, even her dialog wasn't right to me. Its gonna be gameplay that saves this game. How many hours of gameplay tho? 8 to 12?
Or 10- 15? Expecting?
 
Last of Us 2 with female terminator as MC, "bigot sandwich" and trans/queer/whatever kids being persecuted in a world that should only care about survival (they have time for this shit?) was already one of the wokest games of early 2020s.
they removed her hair cause PS5 has lower VRAM
 
Uncharted 4? (or is Uncharted 4 considered old now, even though they have only made Lost Legacy (which is an Uncharted 4 spinoff and also not woke) and Last of Us Part 2 since)

I'm not saying it will or will not be woke but I'm certainly not going to jump to assumptions.

U4 and LL were not woke - but feminists propaganda was already strong in those games.

they removed her hair cause PS5 has lower VRAM

This is funny but technical limitations were the reason why we had some many games with bald (or short hair) characters in the past.

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I mean he is right, if you expect completely woke free game from drunkman in 2026 i have a bridge to sell to you...

The woke is pre-baked in the code and fully expected with some devs, even if we havent seen nothing from the next mass effect, do you really need to see something to have a prediction?

We can only hope they stop at the extent of tlou2 level of woke and they dont go overboard into sp2\veilguard territory.
 
U4 and LL were not woke - but feminists propaganda was already strong in those games.



This is funny but technical limitations were the reason why we had some many games with bald (or short hair) characters in the past.

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You say "technical limitation" i ll say "artistic design"
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Neil works for Sony. Not the other way around. Either way, the entire generation has been held up by live service bullshit so, to me, the blame is squarely on Ryan. But sure.....add misuse of studio resources for a shitty TV show to that list.
You think write the subject, plays as director in a series take less time and dedication than the wasted time in the failed sony live service? I have great doubt. Not saying sony is innocent or less responsible but the extra activities of Neil surely give their big contribution in such slow ass development time.
 
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I mean he is right, if you expect completely woke free game from drunkman in 2026 i have a bridge to sell to you...

The woke is pre-baked in the code and fully expected with some devs, even if we havent seen nothing from the next mass effect, do you really need to see something to have a prediction?

We can only hope they stop at the extent of tlou2 level of woke and they dont go overboard into sp2\veilguard territory.

Like I said, the bar for calling a game "woke" ain't exactly high. So yes, he is right that folks will label it as woke even with the slightest reference. But I agree with you that there are levels to this. The crap they put into Spider-man 2 and Veilguard was just a different league. I do not think for a second we see amatuer hour shit like that in Intergalactic.

You think write the subject, plays as director in a series take less time and dedication than the wasted time in sony live service? I have great doubt. Not saying sony is innocent or less responsible but the extra activities of Neil surely have their big contribution in such slow ass development time.

Druckman directed only a couple of episodes so I'm fairly confident in saying that didn't dominate his time as much as Factions did. I agree that he should have been directed to focus on games, not TV.
 
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Like I said, the bar for calling a game "woke" ain't exactly high. So yes, he is right that folks will label it as woke even with the slightest reference. But I agree with you that there are levels to this. The crap they put into Spider-man 2 and Veilguard was just a different league. I do not think for a second we see amatuer hour shit like that in Intergalactic.



Druckman directed only a couple of episodes so I'm fairly confident in saying that didn't dominate his time as much as Factions did. I agree that he should have been directed to focus on games, not TV.
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im willing to bet my account that this game will have lgbtq characters and including some homosexual/lesbian sex scenes , that how sure i am that this game is gonna be woke
 
Like I said, the bar for calling a game "woke" ain't exactly high. So yes, he is right that folks will label it as woke even with the slightest reference. But I agree with you that there are levels to this. The crap they put into Spider-man 2 and Veilguard was just a different league. I do not think for a second we see amatuer hour shit like that in Intergalactic.



Druckman directed only a couple of episodes so I'm fairly confident in saying that didn't dominate his time as much as Factions did. I agree that he should have been directed to focus on games, not TV.
If you ask me, that Bigot sandwich line was already amateur hour shit from a director that sniff his farts almost as much as kojima does.

I know some people consider that a small bit but it is the equivalent of putting a benny hill skit in the godfather movies...you absolutely know what's up in the mind of a director when he can't avoid to put such a dogshite line in his magnum opus...
 
Even in the extreme case I also doubt the poor Neil was so powerless against the evil Sony who forced him to make live service games against his will. Eh.

Seems obvious that it was part of the overall effort that was pushed by Jim Ryan PlayStation-wide.

If you ask me, that Bigot sandwich line was already amateur hour shit from a director that sniff his farts almost as much as kojima does.

I know some people consider that a small bit but it is the equivalent of putting a benny hill skit in the godfather movies...you absolutely know what's up in the mind of a director when he can't avoid to put such a dogshite line in his magnum opus...

Spider-man using his powers to help a gay couple go on a date, "pulling a barve". Shit like that is where the line is for me.
 
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Year 1997.

Does anyone object to this

No, because it was Demi Moore doing it once in 1997, not 2026 when every western media outlet is pushing le stronk independent lesbian woman front and center

Remember when many years ago people made fun of le bald space marine stereotype in media? Well, it's happening but lame and gay
 


A completely in-game trailer where the facial expression technology alone blows everything else out of the water, like Naughty Dog's natural and realistic motion capture.

Then you see games like James Bond, whose technology is archaic, completely lacking anything that makes you say "wow."

You can watch the trailer and all its details and you'll be amazed.

For some, imagine a muscular man with a lot of hair to fully appreciate the details in the trailer.
 
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