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Naughty Dog: Chance of a TLOU 2 is "50/50"; Sony gives us freedom of choice
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ChoklitCow
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I'm so torn on the thought of a sequel. This game has had more of an impact on me than most, and I felt the gameplay was "meh".
I grew attached to the characters. All of them. Even Tess. If there is to be a sequel, I would rather there be a prequel. I'm going to assume mild story spoilers are allowed in here, so don't read below if you haven't played Left Behind or the full story:
There is so much that can be done with Joel. Ellie stole the show, but he has a ton of scars that could be explained post-intro to the Last of Us. Left Behind left me with as many questions, emotions (mainly pain and frustration),and unanswered questions as the conclusion to the main story. Filling in those risks could be risky, extremely risky. But based on my confidence with them, and after watching the Grounded documentary, I feel I would be overly excited with what they did.
I have this game on so high of a pedestal though, that I don't know if it is worth the risk. I'm generally torn. Is it better to pay for the traditional, AAA garb with no innovation and remember "the game that was" or is it better to risk an even greater accomplishment at the cost of degrading what once was?
I grew attached to the characters. All of them. Even Tess. If there is to be a sequel, I would rather there be a prequel. I'm going to assume mild story spoilers are allowed in here, so don't read below if you haven't played Left Behind or the full story:
There is so much that can be done with Joel. Ellie stole the show, but he has a ton of scars that could be explained post-intro to the Last of Us. Left Behind left me with as many questions, emotions (mainly pain and frustration),and unanswered questions as the conclusion to the main story. Filling in those risks could be risky, extremely risky. But based on my confidence with them, and after watching the Grounded documentary, I feel I would be overly excited with what they did.
I have this game on so high of a pedestal though, that I don't know if it is worth the risk. I'm generally torn. Is it better to pay for the traditional, AAA garb with no innovation and remember "the game that was" or is it better to risk an even greater accomplishment at the cost of degrading what once was?
M
Macapala
Unconfirmed Member
That's more the Wii U's fault, though. I think if Naughty Dog made another platformer, J&D or something else, it would sell quite well.
I have enough faith in the team to not do a sequel unless they could make it compelling. They put a lot of thought into the story and there's still potential for it to continue with the same characters or an entirely different cast. I don't want them to rush it though. Whether it's a new IP or a TLoU sequel, I can't wait to see what they do next.
zackmorris
Member
Shouldn't they be cooking something right now? His quote gave a vibe they still haven't decided anything which seems weird. Anyways, i don't mind TLOU 2. But a 3 year wait is brutal.
ND has done a good job of keeping things secret in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if this team was already developing their next game. I think it's also important to remember that Uncharted 4 probably won't be out until sometime next year, and it's a pretty good possibility they have a 3rd team working on a new or at least different IP, so it's not like the studio doesn't have anything else to offer. If this team wants to take 3-4 years to make sure their next game is as great as their other work, that's okay with me.
They've earned a formidable reputation, and no Tom, Dick or Harry should have the pretention of enlighting them as to which path they should take, let alone dictating it. Gamers treat games makers as restaurant chefs, and expect the menu they've ordered to be served on silver plates...
No wonder the industry suffers from a conformist attitude...
No wonder the industry suffers from a conformist attitude...
condompickle
Banned
Idk, i doubt it would happen so soon.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
Member
50/50? lol
The chances that there won't be a sequel are slim to none. Won't be for awhile, but it will happen.
The chances that there won't be a sequel are slim to none. Won't be for awhile, but it will happen.
Nightengale
Member
Let's not forget that a new IP is hard work. The Grounded documentary highlighted how difficult TLoU development was for them prior to all the pieces of the puzzle slowly coming together. Going from one new IP to another new IP can be very taxing. That's another... what? 4 years of development?
Internally, I can imagine them personally wanting to continue TLoU in one shape or form. Even if they never planned it, I can't imagine the critical acclaim of TLoU not having some sort of pressure for them to continue the lore, be it internally within the team, from the fans, or even some nudge nudge wink from Sony.
Internally, I can imagine them personally wanting to continue TLoU in one shape or form. Even if they never planned it, I can't imagine the critical acclaim of TLoU not having some sort of pressure for them to continue the lore, be it internally within the team, from the fans, or even some nudge nudge wink from Sony.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Though expecting a new IP is wishful thinking on our part, I'd have to say working on the TLOU universe for a sequel couldn't be bad. As Mr. Straley mentioned in an earlier interview, making a brand new ip can be very hard, since you don't know what/how these characters are going to turn out to be? Will the game be fun to play? Lots of unknowns. ND took a big risk in crafting TLOU and it paid them off by dividends and accolades, and TLOU deserves every last bit of praise. Here's wishing the team on whatever they make continues to impress millions of fans like me.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
8 months for a few hour DLC game for a size of their team is simply inexcusable IMO. They should have started something 8 months after their game is over. And yes, I do know about the NaughtyDog crazy work hours that they have, which confuses me even more after their break how the entire time has been spent on DLC.It's not really a question at all. They only started on the Left Behind DLC immediately after finishing the main game.
Hmmm. I suppose so. Perfect amount of implied snark in your reply btw.
Sniobi, wanna do me a favor and just make a thread from the AMA? I've already done a bit of the work in terms of screencaps... I'd rather it just be out there instead.
Left Behind was made with a much, much smaller team than the main game was.
SolidChamp
Banned
What if they told Joel's backstory, just after
, during the first years of the outbreak (and all of the stuff his brother mentioned that he said "gave him nightmares")?
Would anyone be happy with that story? I think I would.
Sarah's death
Would anyone be happy with that story? I think I would.
BreakinBad
Neo Member
Dear god.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Isn't TLOU just perfect the way it is without any added sequels?
Besides, everyone knows they should focus on CrashPS4 anyway. BRING CRASH HOME!
Net_Wrecker
Member
I wouldn't. Left Behind was enough "filling in" of the story. We don't need to know everything in such detail. The best quality about the narrative in The Last of Us is how much it was willing to leave unspoken, choosing to imply or simply cut to black where other, lesser, games would've spelled everything out explicitly.
No prequels. No direct sequels. Just let that story live as it is.
ChoklitCow
Member
I'm torn on that. I feel Joel brings a lot more to the table that we don't know about.
But, as I said previously on this page, when you fill in the gaps too much, you risk ruining the immersion, stories, and feelings we developed on our own. It could make or break the experience.
Gemüsepizza
Member
I think "The Last of Us" is a good game, and I'm pretty sure that they will work on a sequel at some time because of it's success.
But personally I found TLoU too dark, and I don't think I want to play another game like this. I would really prefer if they work on more lighthearted games in the future. Savage Starlight sounds pretty cool, maybe they could make this their next game with some comedy elements.
But personally I found TLoU too dark, and I don't think I want to play another game like this. I would really prefer if they work on more lighthearted games in the future. Savage Starlight sounds pretty cool, maybe they could make this their next game with some comedy elements.
This post should be chiseled into the foreheads of everyone disappointed with the original ending or calling for the return of Joel and Ellie because they would like to see "what happened after." You fundamentally undermine what made the original great. Maybe it's wishful thinking but I think Bruce and Neil understand that.
Just think about how much people truly love this game: they are publicly calling for it to never have a sequel. Think about how weird that is for an iterative medium. That doesn't come from spite or some fundamental misunderstanding of the games business but because they really get what made the original special. Sequels don't exist in isolation no matter how hard you try to separate them.
Prequilitis is the new plague on the entertainment industry.
"Everyone's tired of sequels and honestly - we're creatively-fucking bankrupt. "Sequelitis" has even become a cutely coined and dismissive idiom as of late. What do we do??"
*gestures with hands*
"Prequels!"
"You're a fucking genius."
"Everyone's tired of sequels and honestly - we're creatively-fucking bankrupt. "Sequelitis" has even become a cutely coined and dismissive idiom as of late. What do we do??"
*gestures with hands*
"Prequels!"
"You're a fucking genius."
SolidSnakex
Member
They do as you can see with their reasoning behind not making Ish the main character in TLoU's DLC
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-07-the-last-of-us-left-behind-is-a-two-hour-triumph
Please. Joel and Ellie are finished. The story was perfect and complete. Another full-length title about them would just do damage to the characters and the integrity of the narrative.
I love the world, I love the mechanics, I'd love to see TLOU 2. But it has to be with new faces.
I love the world, I love the mechanics, I'd love to see TLOU 2. But it has to be with new faces.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
I am sorry to say but if they made sequel that takes place after the original it'll be hard for me to forget the fact that all the bad things that would happen in the sequel resulting from the infected could have been avoided
if Joel didn't save Ellie from the doctors in the end.
ND, if you choose to make TLOU2, please no more Joel and Ellie. I love how this story ended and showing any more of it would ruin that great ending in hindsight (something that happened often in videogames, unfortunately, due to sequelitis). No prequel either, please. Let the story stand as a complete work of art.
Ideally I'd like them to make something completely new (with similar mechanics). Make that grounded-in-reality-space-game everyone was hoping for!
Ideally I'd like them to make something completely new (with similar mechanics). Make that grounded-in-reality-space-game everyone was hoping for!
There was absolutely nothing certain about this. That's part of what makes the moral dilemma work.
same here. i'd take one with new protagonist as well..
i enjoyed last of us, but i feel like they can definitely do better by a sequel. it would be such a waste to build up such a universe, mechanics, and ip.. only to dump it once better technology comes along. especially with all the success they've been having..
the only thing that would make me not want a sequel from them, is if they felt they couldn't top tlou. but if they are willing to meet that challenge, i'm all for it.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
I was talking about myself mostly, that 'I' would be thinking like that and it would be distracting for me. A 50/50 chance would still make you think you know.
Anticitizen One
Banned
The problem with The last of Us is that 80% of the game is just hiding from and then facing off against military goons. How is that any different from any other game on the market? The infected/monsters are only in the game for a few segments. Very disappointing.
It's the same issue I had with the new Tomb Raider. She's stuck on a remote island in the pacific, Joel and Ellie are in post apocalyptic America so who the fuck is supplying all these people with endless supplies of weaponry and mercs???? It's unimaginative and is a pathetic attempt at chasing C.O.D. casuals.
It's the same issue I had with the new Tomb Raider. She's stuck on a remote island in the pacific, Joel and Ellie are in post apocalyptic America so who the fuck is supplying all these people with endless supplies of weaponry and mercs???? It's unimaginative and is a pathetic attempt at chasing C.O.D. casuals.
how much did it sell ? did it make a profit ? The game hella deserves it.
ShalashaskaEx
Banned
Agreed. Let TLOU stand as is (a terrific game) and move on to something else.
If Ellie ever comesback the cure thing will have to play a role.Its like a super important part of the game and the main reason Ellie is worth a shit to anyone in that savage world.
dragonbane
Member
Yes do it please. Much more interesting to me than Uncharted. I don't want pirates either and I think some other studios will produce enough sci-fi titles to get my fix, so I'm totally fine with more The Last of Us.
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