The fact Sony don't force them to churn out sequels and just leave them to it is examplorary. TLOU doesn't need a sequel. That's not to say I wouldn't enjoy one
Please god, no. What a terrible idea...Gotta love all the experts who just KNOW a sequel won't be as good -_-
"It's perfect as is I say!! Perfect!!!"
Let the dogs do what they want. If they have more story to tell, it'll be just as inspired as the first, and who doesn't want to see the tale of Ellie extend further. There's plenty of unanswered questions and things you can do with the world.
Gameplay wise there's many improvements the game could use, I don't think it's reached it's uncharted 2 potential, I'm down for a sequel, and want to see a grown up Ellie, who she becomes, all that jazz.
There's really no reason to believe that. Look at Portal to Portal 2. Portal is as close to a perfect game as imaginable, but they still made a sequel that received universal acclaim.I'd love for a sequel but please don't. A sequel will always be judged harshly because it won't be the first TLoU
Conversely, it will sell like crazy, and sell lots of PS4s
What are you talking about? Did you finish it?I don't understand you people at all. This is one of those times where the game actually NEEDS a sequel. Did you guys not finish TLOU or something? That's really how you want it to end?
There's really no reason to believe that. Look at Portal to Portal 2. Portal is as close to a perfect game as imaginable, but they still made a sequel that received universal acclaim.
No matter what that team do, it will be compared to TLoU.
Explain why that's terrible?Please god, no. What a terrible idea...
To be fair. That's heavily implied, but Ellie could change under different circumstances...or her guilt could become a factor, like what if she is the savior? What if someone finds out...etcWhat are you talking about? Did you finish it?
They accept each other as surrogate child and father and go to live happily ever after in his brother's town, the end.
Lol. If they don't make TLOU 2, somebody else will.
There will absolutely be a sequel.
A sequel will always be judged harshly because it won't be the first TLoU
"50/50." Right...
I disagree completely...this story doesn't need explaining everything to have a continuation. For the simple fact of Joel and Ellie's happiness seems to be on a time limit..time skip it 5 years and both characters could be completely different. What if it's not good enough just to "survive" what if life calls for something more than that? How May ppl become rich and still aren't satisfied? I think the same could be applied here. They got there happy ending, about as much happiness as one can expect in this world, but what if, particularly in Ellie's case, that's just not good enough? Many places this story can go, and frankly I'm just not tired of Ellie yet. I do agree it should be a 2016 game; let it breathe, but I would like to see moreWhy would there?
There have been plenty of games under Sony's wing that have stayed at one game and they are not unsuccessful games. TLOU is fine as a single story. If you are going to do stuff like trying to explain everything, that takes away from the game. It was about these people, not the setting, and the characters had their story. I don't see any reason why it needs a sequel.
Yeah, of course, you could always contrive another chapter. One day, twelve years later, Ellie doesn't come to the communal breakfast, someone mentions not having seen her the evening before at some poetry reading or whatever, she's been kidnapped, off Joel and Tommy go on an adventure, but I just meant that TLoU itself is conclusive. The post I replied to certainly suggested it wasn't.To be fair. That's heavily implied, but Ellie could change under different circumstances...or her guilt could become a factor, like what if she is the savior? What if someone finds out...etc
This isn't nintendo, i'm pretty sure that a sequel won't be judged harshly against the first game.
Any developer can churn out sequels without being judged on previous entries, everyone except nintendo that is.
"The Last of Us was too good, please don't give us another one!" What? Are you people serious? This fear that they can't make a sequel as good or better than the original is just total nonsense. The Last of Us was very successful so I have no doubt that there will be another game at some point and I can not wait to play it.
Uncharted 3 says otherwise. It was pretty much crucified by some for not being Uncharted 2
What are you talking about? Did you finish it?
They accept each other as surrogate child and father and go to live happily ever after in his brother's town, the end.
What are you talking about? Did you finish it?
They accept each other as surrogate child and father and go to live happily ever after in his brother's town, the end.
Ellie knew the truth, she even woke up in a hospital gown.You seriously think it's all roses from there? You don't care to find out what's going to happen when Ellie inevitably finds out the truth? You don't want to see if Ellie can see sense and free herself from Joel? You don't want to see if Joel will get what's coming to him? You don't care to see if the world can be saved? I was anything but satisfied with the ending. All it did was leave me wanting more. It simply cannot end there.
It was rightly crucified for being a bad game, with broken aiming at launch.
that didn't stop most reviewers from giving it amazing reviews. And strangely not even one review mentioned the broken aiming.
Explain why that's terrible?
Her relationship with Joel can't last forever, in fact given there situation it likely is short lived. So what does Ellie do if she loses her new "most important person again". Blow her brains out? I think that character development is very interesting, and u fail to offer anything to counter it besides they terrible...
Did you guys not finish TLOU or something? That's really how you want it to end?
Seriously, that's your takeaway from the ending? In a moment where Ellie wanted to know the truth, Joel lied to Ellie for reasons that are selfish to a degree.What are you talking about? Did you finish it?
They accept each other as surrogate child and father and go to live happily ever after in his brother's town, the end.
I am sick and tired of this "we need more of the same bullshit" "sequel please!" bullshit, honestly! For years people here are crying about the need for more originality, more new ip's. Now ND got a chance to do a fresh new one, TLOU, and that turned out great! and now they get a second chance at starting another one! let them have that chance!
I feel this has all more to do with people wanting to see TLOU on the PS4 with next gen graphics then actually caring about the IP. Give them the chance to do what they want, if they decide they want a second version then fine, its their choice, but this "It made millions there has to be a sequel" publisher poisonous mindset of people have these days drives me crazy! You guys should be welcoming new fresh ideas from great developers instead of wanting them to do the same old same old.
I feel like you can't do a part 2 and stay true to the game.
TLoU was all about Ellie and Joel and the development of their relationship.
You can't just smack a sequel onto that.
They should really think about it, and if they can come up with a story thats equally worth telling, stays true to the world and the characters and doesn't feel forced - do it.
If not - don't
It was rightly crucified for being a bad game, with broken aiming at launch.
that didn't stop most reviewers from giving it amazing reviews. And strangely not even one review mentioned the broken aiming.
I think Sony as a publisher doesn't function exactly like that. At least not always. They're traditionally funding vanity projects sometimes where they know they won't make them much money but they will increase the desire for their hardware (Shadow of the Colossus, Journey, Heavy Rain, Puppeteer etc.). They understand that providing awesome creators with creative freedom will result in long-term benefits for them instead of churning out sequels (which they do with other franchises, sure). Maybe the deal was "make us UC4 and you're free to do whatever you want with the second game." Both, one risk-averse and one risky project at the same time to benefit from both approaches if you will.AAA doesn't work like that. Business doesn't work like that.
Will be extremely surprised if we dont see a sequel to this multi million dollar highly successful and critically acclaimed knew IP.
Joel's arc is to rebuild himself to the point he could be a parent after his daughter died, Ellie's arc is to find a person who actually loves her following the death of her friend, the final scene is literally the conclusion of both arcs. It's not that he lied, it's that he was willing to lie to protect her from the truth, even though the truth itself wasn't well concealed.Seriously, that's your takeaway from the ending? In a moment where Ellie wanted to know the truth, Joel lied to Ellie for reasons that are selfish to a degree.
I think that's an extremely shallow and one-sided interpretation of the ending. Joel is clearly still scarred by the demons of his past which led them to do the things he's done but he doesn't want to admit the truth to Ellie, thereby betraying the trust between both of them and potentially planting the seed for a rift in their relationship.Joel's arc is to rebuild himself to the point he could be a parent after his daughter died, Ellie's arc is to find a person who actually loves for her following the death of her friend, the final scene is literally the conclusion of both arcs. It's not that he lied, it's that he was willing to lie to protect her from the truth, even though the truth itself wasn't well concealed.
Great to hear. I hope ND is still thinking that way. It should stand as a complete piece of art as it is.My friend Peter Tcherkes (level designer at ND for last of us, now at IO Interactive) told me while making TLoU it was always to be a standalone game with no sequel/prequels
You think the lie is hide the fact he had to kill people? It's not at all, it's to hide the fact she has to die to save people.I think that's an extremely shallow and one-sided interpretation of the ending. Joel is clearly still scarred by the demons of his past which led them to do the things he's done but he doesn't want to admit the truth to Ellie, thereby betraying the trust between both of them and potentially planting the seed for a rift in their relationship.
It's both, really. And hiding his selfish reasons, of course.You think the lie is hide the fact he had to kill people? It's not at all, it's to hide the fact she has to die to save people.
They answered questions on a reddit AMA.maybe this is just me, but why does Naughty Dog bring this topic back again and again?