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Naughty Dog: going back and playing the 30 Hz version feels "broken" (Gamespot+TLOU)
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Entertainment and medical software don't really match. Some people prefer lower framerates as crazy as that might sound. It's just an opinion...
Framerate is part of the visual presentation. A huge part.
Kris Pistofferson
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The 'soap opera effect' is just a learned response. People are used to movies at 24hz and games at 30hz so that seeing either at a higher framerate makes them feel 'off'. It's a response that needs to be unlearned. I'm more surprised to see so many people unused to 60fps since every single Call of Duty, Forza, and Gran Turismo game has been running at that framerate since forever.
It's the same reason that people freaked out over The Hobbit at 48 fps; the higher framerate is enormously useful when it comes to 3D but people associate it with soap operas.
It would look the same but halve the input latency. Most inputs are already doing that though and there are more important links in the display chain. There's a pretty decent article on the subject here.
Your USB mouse should have a poll rate of 125hz which is 8ms of latency. That's very slight next to a vsynced 60hz game having 17ms and 30hz game having 33ms of latency.
USB mice can go up to 1000hz which is 1ms they can also do 250hz and 500hz. A vsynced game at higher hz will also have less input lag itself. Gamers in to certain genres or certain enthusiast out there still can feel or document these differences and the impact.
KoopaTheCasual
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There's a startling lack of reading comprehension (or reading at all), as far the OP is concerned. People are acting like this is a Naughty Dog official statement.
BigTnaples
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Yes. Just like playing Uncharted 3 on an SDTV felt broken after playing it on a 65 inch 1080p TV.
what did you think was gonna happen in an ND thread? makes people crazy for some reason. my latest favorite:
Denton
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Hey, I did say it was selfish, right?
OldAsUrSock
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Nah, it is generally excepted that 120fps is better, but much more expensive to achieve since you need an all around good setup like monitor, CPU, and GPU.
Best visuals is 120fps, but we cant have that can we
Why don't you care how your videoGAME plays?
symphonask
Member
I like to think the opposite. I'm imagining how much better U4 would play at 60fps compared to its predecessors.
When I get a ps4, it will be sitting next to my PC. While playing U4,I won't be thinking how much better it would look on my 5+ teraflop PC.
TyrantGuardian
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Nah, it is generally excepted that 120fps is better, but much more expensive to achieve since you need an all around good setup like monitor, CPU, and GPU.
Best visuals is 120fps, but we cant have that can we
Define "expensive". Obviously you're not going to get 120fps with a low-end machine but anything around the mid tier will get you above 100 constistently in most games depending on how much non-essential eye candy you're willing to turn off. The monitors aren't really more expensive than any other good monitors. Again, there are definitely slightly cheaper alternatives, but those are usually just really bad monitors to begin with. The tradeoff generally isn't about price in this case, but rather whether you want IPS for better colors and viewing angles or TN for higher refresh rates and response times.
To stay slightly on topic, it'll be great fun to see the PR spin when they start releasing 30fps games for the PS4 a couple of years down the road. Or they might stay at 60 throughout the whole life cycle of the console, but I honestly doubt that will happen.
boredandlazy
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Uncharted on PS3 plays fine.
SkullHydra
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cripterion
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I can understand the comment although it's still poor choice of words considering their acclaimed Uncharted series ran at that very same framerate.
But yeah, 60fps feels so good, and that's something that is hugely missing in Destiny, I feel like I'm running through mud when I'm sprinting.
Gimme 60 fps or give me death!
But yeah, 60fps feels so good, and that's something that is hugely missing in Destiny, I feel like I'm running through mud when I'm sprinting.
Gimme 60 fps or give me death!
/kidding
It really doesn't, using the controller felt terrible for me.
cripterion
Member
Yes it's been confirmed many times at this point.
Edit : oh I see you meant locked at 60. Hmm I dunno but I'm not expecting dips, I'm expecting the same feel of Corrine Yu playing the game.
Most console games that advertise 60fps arnt locked, that goes for all the cods ever made etc they all dropped framerate at some point during play. Lets hope this is on the side of almost always 60fps rather than the stuff we have seen in kz mp and tomb raider remake.
Fps are a huge part of the visuals. Frame rates matter in every genre.
If you want the graphics to be as amazing as possibly, then 60fps should be included.
Why wish for half the frames so you don't get as much clarity to see all the great details the game has?
30fps in motion - you miss so much detail in comparison to 60. They usually mask the lower frames with things like motion blur, which drop clarity even further.
Sure, for careen shots it will look better if you up the visuals at the expense of frames, but it will /always/ look worse in motion.
And that's the important part.
I too would like the feel of Corrine Yu...in the TLOU 60fps sense, of course.
Umm...scrolling is smoother not faster, also higher frame-rate means higher motion resolution which means more clarity not less.
well i can't knock the honesty!
okay you win! 60fps ftw!
Not after you got used to Uncharted on PS3 at 60FPS. Oh wait. See, there is that "fine" comes from.
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