How far down the rabbit hole are you willing to go? Personally I'd like to see Ellie killing white cisgender males with the strapon from the film Seven. Also we need decapitations and dismemberments.
Don't want to dissuade you from TLOU 2 in case you haven't played it already, but TLOU 2 makes TLOU 1 looks like a rom-com. It's so heavy and gut-wrenching. But something you must experience at least once. Masterpiece!Hugely appreciate your thoughtful contribution to forum discourse bro.. yeah tlou1 is already pretty heavy for me
Same. It's my most favorite story but I'll likely never find out how it ends. After years of waiting, with a heavy heart, I just moved on to Brandon's Cosmere. Mistborn is absolutely brilliant, and Stormlight Archives also scratches that itch very well.Don't remind me. I love those books, but I gave up hope years ago.
I disagree.
The Last Of Us does this in a non-fantasy or non-parody type setting. I have nothing against MK, but that isn't the type of violence I'm talking about, as in...I'm not talking about over the top fantasy stuff.
I'd argue many titles use that over the top fantasy stuff to disassociate the player and to bring the level of violence down to a comedic level. Again, we rarely have REALSITC mature titles with real levels of violence. If anything, I want you to read an interview by Michael Haneke on violence between his films and Tarantino's films, consider I love BOTH directors, but the level of violence in Funny Games or Benny's Video is on a completely different level. When something is done so over the top, to the point of being funny, it loses a lot of that gore and feel in terms of how people view violence and that kinda is what QT is going for in many of his films. Its very easy to lose interest mentally when a person gets a arm cut off and they die off screen.....its a harder film to watch if for 2 hours you have to watch them suffer, cry out, lose their minds etc Why? Because its not simply what is going on with the content, it is the effect of the trama in what it does to others around them, how it effects them after and even during the death.
A better example that I used in one of my film classes on a final talking about it, was the difference between some random dying in Kill Bill and a death notification on First 48, trust me bud....its very, very tough to watch someone get that news. The reality is, them getting that news and their reaction, might be more heart breaking then a film showing it, because its not simply the act, its everything else around it that makes violence what it is. So MK violence like Kill Bill Violence is not the same as Funny Games or The Last Of Us 2.
SPIEGEL Interview with Director Michael Haneke: 'Every Film Rapes the Viewer'
Austrian director Michael Haneke discusses his shocking new film, "The White Ribbon," which won the Palme d'Or at Cannes, his penchant for gloomy stories that unnerve his viewers and his unsettling view of humanity.www.spiegel.de
Have fun, its a great read on the difference.
"But that's something else. These films make violence unreal and therefore consumable. It's like being on a ghost train ride. I deliberately allow myself to be frightened but I know that nothing can happen to me. I remember when Quentin Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction" came out, and I was sitting in a matinee filled with young people. The famous scene of a boy's head being blown off caused a huge commotion in the theater. They thought it was great and they almost died laughing."
Yeah the most violent stuff for me is not the dismemberment, but how realistic punchs and body collision in this game.Don't want to dissuade you from TLOU 2 in case you haven't played it already, but TLOU 2 makes TLOU 1 looks like a rom-com. It's so heavy and gut-wrenching. But something you must experience at least once. Masterpiece!
Not sure why you used Game of Thrones as an example, because TLOU 1 and 2 gave way more time to most of their characters George Martin ever did. It's way less sporadic than TLOU.It felt needlesly violent to me.So much so, with its fetish of killing charachters left and right, that it didnt make you feel compassioned about the people suffering there, it just pissed me off.
I wont go into details how the story and the game overall is a giant dissapointment, and will make me think twice before buying a Naughty Dog game again, but there is a reason why series like Game Of Thrones use the "Kill X character suddenly" very sporadicly. You need not only time for characters to grow on you, but you grow numb, and pissed in my case, if they just keep killing them.Why care and symphatize about any of their (stupid) struggles if they will simply die 2 or 3 scenes later?The way the story is structured, it is more about the drama, than the story and character themselves, like a bloody novela.And I hate novelas.
Well, here is the original artwork for Abby. I do believe they made her less conventionally attractive so that the player wouldn't forgive her too easily. Not that I have a problem with how Abby looks even if they did it for another reason. Just pointing it out as I found it interesting.
I wasnt comparing it to the first game, but sure.In the first TLOU, the characters that did die didnt die just suddenly like that, with gunshot to the head or gunned down in front of you, that you had to escape and not even be able to mourn their death.They all had their "time", for a lack of a better word, and their deaths had more meaning, even from the perspective of the story, than TLOU 2 ever did. The woman in the beginning diyng was a noble sacrifice to let Joel and Ellie escape, and that was done in stark contrast to what they have been doing before as smuggles(?), in order to show that the hope for the good side of humanity, qualities like hope, self sacrifice, love, etc was still there.Not sure why you used Game of Thrones as an example, because TLOU 1 and 2 gave way more time to most of their characters George Martin ever did. It's way less sporadic than TLOU.
Here is every death in the book series.
Moreover, in the show, many of the characters were introduced and killed off in the same episode, e.g., Karsi in S05E08, Will, Gared, Waymar Royce in S01E01, and then other characters were killed without much development, e.g., Jory Cassel, Rodrik Cassel, Septa Mordane, Rickon Stark, Viserys, etc.
On the other hand, TLOU 1 and TLOU 2 gave ample to their characters before killing them off. In fact, we always spent considerable time with all relatively minor characters: Sam, Henry, Tess, Jessie, Bill, Marlene, Owen, Yara, etc.
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I totally intend to eventually, but yeah it's just hard to find a moment when filling my house with those kind of sounds works out well lol, having similar trouble with god of war and doom eternalDon't want to dissuade you from TLOU 2 in case you haven't played it already, but TLOU 2 makes TLOU 1 looks like a rom-com. It's so heavy and gut-wrenching. But something you must experience at least once. Masterpiece!
Well we all sorta know how it ends cuz of the show. But it will suck to never be able to read the real full ending.Same. It's my most favorite story but I'll likely never find out how it ends. After years of waiting, with a heavy heart, I just moved on to Brandon's Cosmere. Mistborn is absolutely brilliant, and Stormlight Archives also scratches that itch very well.
I'd love to see Mistborn getting a AAA game adaptation.
On topic though, Stormlight Archives also has the potential to display violence -- and make viewers uncomfortable -- just like TLOU 2. Some of the scenes in this book, especially with Kaladin's and young Dalinar Kholin can be portrayed very well by using violence as a narrative tool.
We get it. You hate everything.Muh gore, tho
I've always felt that explicit violence kinda ruins the experience, as if the creators are trying too hard to make something "edgy" and "realistic" for the sake of it.
Kinda like those movies that add that stuff for SHOCK value, but they're as shallow as they've ever been.
I think they literally watched snuff films and car accident footage constantly. Real deaths. War footage. Etc.
The violence in MK11 imo looks realistic enough as well despite it being way over the top. The violence in TLOU2 is gruesome obviously, but I feel MK11 goes to places unimaginable at times with gratuitous blood, violence and gore. I feel nothing in TLOU2 holds a candle to the majority of the fatalities or X-Ray moves in the game.You can't be seriously making this comparison.
"Violence" in Mortal Kombat feels like it's inspired by Tom and Jerry, with some extra ketchup. It's cartoony, deliberately campy, and it serves a totally different purpose.
It's so over the top it's not violent anymore - it's funny.
I'd have no problem playing MK with my 13 year old sister but I'd NEVER show her TLOU2, it's something else entirely.
Yep, it’s really intense in this game.
I’ve seen more bloody/gore games but they always are more « cartoonish ».
TLOU 2 tried to stick to reality and it’s all the difference.
Not sure why you used Game of Thrones as an example, because TLOU 1 and 2 gave way more time to most of their characters George Martin ever did. It's way less sporadic than TLOU.
Here is every death in the book series.
Moreover, in the show, many of the characters were introduced and killed off in the same episode, e.g., Karsi in S05E08, Will, Gared, Waymar Royce in S01E01, and then other characters were killed without much development, e.g., Jory Cassel, Rodrik Cassel, Septa Mordane, Rickon Stark, Viserys, etc.
On the other hand, TLOU 1 and TLOU 2 gave ample to their characters before killing them off. In fact, we always spent considerable time with all relatively minor characters: Sam, Henry, Tess, Jessie, Bill, Marlene, Owen, Yara, etc.
To be fair, if any of the fatalities was like something out of the TLOU2 people would say it was pretty lame.You can't be seriously making this comparison.
"Violence" in Mortal Kombat feels like it's inspired by Tom and Jerry, with some extra ketchup. It's cartoony, deliberately campy, and it serves a totally different purpose.
It's so over the top it's not violent anymore - it's funny.
I'd have no problem playing MK with my 13 year old sister but I'd NEVER show her TLOU2, it's something else entirely.
Well, it was.Yes, I used to think God of War III was disturbing.
I think RE2R might be the most gross game i've ever played.RE2 Remake nails it for me, its stylised to a point that makes it gross but not groin-grabbingly-gross.
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