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[tkminus]

Uh… are you addressing yourself?

i feel like i am talking to a rock

 

[Dr.Morris79]

faggot

....

 

[Topher]

Maybe they used the wrong model?

 

[Tajaz2426]

OK, some human on here called another one an actual crybaby.

Its damn early on a retired Saturday morning and that was worse than the OP's crash out.

I'm going to have a Red Bull and eat a ham sandwich, as I myself have been consumed by the terror that we are in fact, in the peak stride of Idiocracy.

 

[tkminus]

And we have reached the point of arguing about who has better taste in 3d renders of women.

My taste is her.

short haired girls got something on me.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Interestingly enough I left the other site because it operates exactly as the OP described.

 

[tkminus]

Maybe they used the wrong model?

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

The best part is that lil buddy would unironically call the woman in this gif "uNrEaLisTiC" if she were to be rendered into a video game with a 1:1 likeness lol.

Haha no doubt. And that is a prime example of a pretty girl that is to me where most girls sorta land.

I make my character as ugly as possible in character creation games. Pretty character is least of what I want from a game. This is the type of style i like.

what is this talk man. I watch anime, I see alot of attractive top teir designs. But at the end of the day, they are characters and pixels. Nothing more, nothing less.


you have every right to say that. My issue is grifters and people who same game is shit because of that. Like how? its a pixel. It doesnt make game bad.

Im sure if a psychologist would analyze the mindset behind making the ugliest piece of shit character possible to represent yourself they'd uncover some stuff.

And yea characters matter, do you think if Aragorn looked like that fucking prolapsed asshole you made for a character would have had the same effect?

 

[ByWatterson]

One thing he's undeniably right about is that this board spends more time in meta-conversation (talking about the things that surround games) rather than the games themselves.

The industry, the media, the developers, the player counts, the awards.

It has gotten so tiresome, boring, and predictable.

 

[kevboard]

Wait, we're allowed to say faggot now? I got an account warning from a mod for saying it awhile back, and I'm actually gay, lmao.

he's allowed, he has the F word card

live feed of him and his friends:

I am only bike-curious, so I am not allowed to say it.

 

[tkminus]

Im sure if a psychologist would analyze the mindset behind making the ugliest piece of shit character possible to represent yourself they'd uncover some stuff.

resulting to insult, neat.

And yea characters matter, do you think if Aragorn looked like that fucking prolapsed asshole you made for a character would have had the same effect?

difference between a good a character vs something that is of style.

plus i would like a game with this style sometimes

 

[RoboFu]

To be fair to gaf more people were upset that other people were picking on a Sony game than any anti woke deal. Op probably fell under that camp.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

As a plastic surgeon is really easy to see what they did with her facial structures to make her more ugly/masculin. I wont even bother describing, but you can see.

I honestly would like to hear your insight, if you would be so kind. I like hearing professionals own words.

 

[Bernardougf]

The best part is that lil buddy would unironically call the woman in this gif "uNrEaLisTiC" if she were to be rendered into a video game with a 1:1 likeness lol.

Like I said is a narrow view of the world.. he looks and see a mostly ugly world around him and think thats the norm, i touched this in another topic, some people for some reason think that only impossible 10's and mostly 5's exist in the world.... well there's a lot of 9s 8s and 7s walking around... if you dont see them in your "circle of existence" dosent mean they dont exist.

 

[tkminus]

To be fair to gaf more people were upset that other people were picking on a Sony game than any anti woke deal. Op probably fell under that camp.

console wars were great, full of meltdown entertainment. now, culture war is obnoxious as hell. no style no substances.

 

[tkminus]

Like I said is a narrow view of the world.. he looks and see a mostly ugly world around him and think thats the norm, i touched this in another topic, some people for some reason think that only impossible 10's and mostly 5's exist in the world.... well there's a lot of 9s 8s and 7s walking around... if you dont see them in your "circle of existence" dosent mean they dont exist.

never change gaff. Always assume to worst.
I dont even know when we got to this level.

 

[kevboard]

console wars were great, full of meltdown entertainment. now, culture war is obnoxious as hell. no style no substances.

I blame Microsoft... can't make console war threads anymore when one of the parties is too weak for battle

 

[Deerock71]

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

resulting to insult, neat.

difference between a good a character vs something that is of style.

plus i would like a game with this style sometimes

How is me telling you that the character you made is ugly as fuck an insult? That's an ugly fucking character sorry. I'd rather stop gaming than run around looking like that pile of shit

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

console wars were great, full of meltdown entertainment. now, culture war is obnoxious as hell. no style no substances.

You weren't even alive for true console wars my dude

 

[tkminus]

How is me telling you that the character you made is ugly as fuck an insult? That's an ugly fucking character sorry. I'd rather stop gaming than run around looking like that pile of shit

I thought you were calling me ugly, my bad there.

As for the ugly character, that is my style for gaming. I like to mess around. Especially during the cinematic scenes.. You should try making silly characters sometimes. They look out of character.

 

[Topher]

To be fair to gaf more people were upset that other people were picking on a Sony game than any anti woke deal. Op probably fell under that camp.

No, the aspects of "woke" in Saros has garnered a hell of a lot more traction than any other criticisms of the game. If 8bit was going to crash out over criticism of a Sony game then I seriously doubt he would have lasted 13 years here.

 

[tkminus]

You weren't even alive for true console wars my dude

I wasnt blessed by the gods sadly. Too late to the game.

 

[tkminus]

No, the aspects of "woke" in Saros has garnered a hell of a lot more traction than any other criticisms of the game.

Twitter is responsible for that.
As soon as they allowed monetization, you can say whatever you want. Just post fake shit, watch people argue, and you get views and traction, which results in big bucks.

 

[Topher]

Twitter is responsible for that.
As soon as they allowed monetization, you can say whatever you want. Just post fake shit, watch people argue, and you get views and traction, which results in big bucks.

Yeah, twitter is just a breeding ground for engagement farmers these days.

 

[kevboard]

You weren't even alive for true console wars my dude

I wonder what the Gen2 wars were like at the playground and in school.

"ha! Atari? my Intellivision can display 16 colors at once! your shitty Atari only 6!"

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I wonder what the Gen2 wars were like at the playground and on school.

"ha! Atari? my Intellivision can display 16 colors at once! your shitty Atari only 6!"

It was Nintendo and Sega that was just wild to experience and enjoy, the commercials etc... Was quite a time to be alive and enjoy the offerings from both those companies. That has always been the true console wars, loved it

 

[The Mad Draklor]

never change gaff. Always assume to worst.
I dont even know when we got to this level.

Sorry the world isnt pretty as you would like to. BUt that still pretty. I dont see an issue here.

I feel like people only take IG models as beauty standards, like korean plastic surgeries.

You seem to keep calling yourself out. Sir, what ails you?

 

[Plague Doctor]

I wonder what the Gen2 wars were like at the playground and in school.

"ha! Atari? my Intellivision can display 16 colors at once! your shitty Atari only 6!"

I do know the N64 vs Playstation violence left my school with a memorial of slap bracelets, beanie babies, trapper keepers, and hackey sacks that still stands today.

We will never forget those we lost.

 

[poppabk]

I thought you were calling me ugly, my bad there.

As for the ugly character, that is my style for gaming. I like to mess around. Especially during the cinematic scenes.. You should try making silly characters sometimes. They look out of character.

He wasn't calling you ugly - he was saying you are psychologically damaged!

 

[Rockman33]

I agree with this to some degree. People are overly obsessed, just look at the thread is Saros woke? Seems ridiculous when no one is playing that game for story. I also think there's a reason this has happened. Game developers DID get very "woke" for quite a while, and if people didn't push back it would have gotten worse.

I think the bigger problem I've been seeing is everyone seems to be so damn negative. There literally is a thread dedicated to people celebrating marathons poor CCU numbers daily…

 

[kevboard]

It was Nintendo and Sega that was just wild to experience and enjoy, the commercials etc... Was quite a time to be alive and enjoy the offerings from both those companies. That has always been the true console wars, loved it

What's wild is, the Colecovision could just plug in an adapter to play Atari games.

imagine if any later generation console did this a MegaDrive adapter for the SNES, the Super MegaDrive, like the Super GameBoy

 

[tkminus]

He wasn't calling you ugly - he was saying you are psychologically damaged!

isnt that insulting someone? is having fun a crime now?

 

[Bernardougf]

I honestly would like to hear your insight, if you would be so kind. I like hearing professionals own words.

Ill try not get too technical, feminine beauty standards used when evaluating a womans face its all about proportions and specially the eye - nose - mouth region, theres even certain calculations that go into place when trying to achieve a certain go. In the plastic surgeon world we always say 1 inch is a mile. Meaning very little changes can bring very big results. Specially in this region (eye/nose/mouth).

So looking exclusively at the comparative picture posted.

- the eye brows of the actress is perfectly positioned and has a perfect feminine arc, womans eye brows are generally more curved and elevated while man are more straight, her eyebrows also are perfect sometrical with the eyes ending where they should and they have perfect thickness
- to uglify you get the eyebrow slightly more straight and thin with a less accentuated curve and ending after the eye breaking the proportion (a more male characteristic)

- the eye of the actress has a nice curve and and is straight like most eyes and very proportional to the size of her face.
- the eye of the model is in a more diagonal position and slightly odd shaped, in fact its a shape very common in down sindrome eyes (wich are very characteristic) , this is exacerbated by the bigger face that the character have in relation to the actress breaking again the proportion

- the chickbones of the actress are full and thick a very female characteristic
- the chickbones of the model are a lot more empty (a more male or aged characteristic) wich again contributes to breaking the face simetry

- the bigger mouth of the actress is a sign a beauty (think julia roberts) speacilly in wider faces like her... the character has a smaller mouth to face proportion

- the chin is the most obvious one, the prolonged more strong chin with a more definid cleft is a very male characteristic.


I think those examples are easy to see... dont expect everyone to see what I see.. its just an opinion as everybody is entitled to theirs.

 

[tkminus]

You seem to keep calling yourself out. Sir, what ails you?

please read, before posting.

 

[Mozza]

Sales figure threads have always been among the most popular on GAF, for the past 25+ years. It's one of the founding pillars of discussion here, since we're industry focused.

If the sales threads did not exist on here, where would all the fun be?..

 

[tkminus]

Ill try not get too technical, feminine beauty standards used when evaluating a womans face its all about proportions and specially the eye - nose - mouth region, theres even certain calculations that go into place when trying to achieve a certain go. In the plastic surgeon world we always say 1 inch is a mile. Meaning very little changes can bring very big results. Specially in this region (eye/nose/mouth).

So looking exclusively at the comparative picture posted.

- the eye brows of the actress is perfectly positioned and has a perfect feminine arc, womans eye brows are generally more curved and elevated while man are more straight, her eyebrows also are perfect sometrical with the eyes ending where they should and they have perfect thickness
- to uglify you get the eyebrow slightly more straight and thin with a less accentuated curve and ending after the eye breaking the proportion

- the eye of the actress has a nice curve and and is straight like most eyes and very proportional to the size of her face.
- the eye of the model is in a more diagonal position and slightly odd shaped, in fact its a shape very common in down sindrome eyes (wich are very characteristic) , this is exacerbated by the bigger face that the character have in relation to the actress breaking again the proportion

- the chickbones of the actress are full and thick a very female characteristic
- the chickbones of the model are a lot more empty (a more male or aged characteristic) wich again contributes to breaking the face simetry

- the bigger mouth of the actress is a sign a beauty (think julia roberts) speacilly in wider faces like her... the character has a smaller mouth to face proportion

- the chin is the most obvious one, the prolonged more strong chin with a more definid cleft is a very male characteristic.


I think those examples are easy to see... dont expect everyone to see what I see.. its just an opinion as everybody is entitled to theirs.

those 2 arent the same at all. even a blind man can see that.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

isnt that insulting someone? is having fun a crime now?

Yet you can come at people that prefer more attractive characters and tell them that they're wrong for expecting more attractive characters. Why is your way of fun the only way? That's literally what you're saying

 

[Bernardougf]

those 2 arent the same at all. even a blind man can see that.

I just responding to a fellow gaffer who asked.

 

[tkminus]

Yet you can come at people that prefer more attractive characters and tell them that they're wrong for expecting more attractive characters. Why is your way of fun the only way? That's literally what you're saying

My god that wasnt the topic.

The topic was, focus on the gameplay, the maps, and how game fairs. But if all people cry about the characters looks, instead of those point, then you are a crybaby. Because you dont care about the basic fundamental of the game.

I am not buying the game for looks, but how fun it is. Just say the game is mediocre, and I can understand what you are arguing.

We are all adults, not children. I dont have time for silly shit.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

Ill try not get too technical, feminine beauty standards used when evaluating a womans face its all about proportions and specially the eye - nose - mouth region, theres even certain calculations that go into place when trying to achieve a certain go. In the plastic surgeon world we always say 1 inch is a mile. Meaning very little changes can bring very big results. Specially in this region (eye/nose/mouth).

So looking exclusively at the comparative picture posted.

- the eye brows of the actress is perfectly positioned and has a perfect feminine arc, womans eye brows are generally more curved and elevated while man are more straight, her eyebrows also are perfect sometrical with the eyes ending where they should and they have perfect thickness
- to uglify you get the eyebrow slightly more straight and thin with a less accentuated curve and ending after the eye breaking the proportion (a more male characteristic)

- the eye of the actress has a nice curve and and is straight like most eyes and very proportional to the size of her face.
- the eye of the model is in a more diagonal position and slightly odd shaped, in fact its a shape very common in down sindrome eyes (wich are very characteristic) , this is exacerbated by the bigger face that the character have in relation to the actress breaking again the proportion

- the chickbones of the actress are full and thick a very female characteristic
- the chickbones of the model are a lot more empty (a more male or aged characteristic) wich again contributes to breaking the face simetry

- the bigger mouth of the actress is a sign a beauty (think julia roberts) speacilly in wider faces like her... the character has a smaller mouth to face proportion

- the chin is the most obvious one, the prolonged more strong chin with a more definid cleft is a very male characteristic.


I think those examples are easy to see... dont expect everyone to see what I see.. its just an opinion as everybody is entitled to theirs.

Thanks for indulging me. Now that you mentioned the down syndrome part, I can't unsee it lol.

 

[Kerotan]

Bye have a nice time

 

[Wilhelm_85]

Nah... this place has been through some rough times over the last decade, but it's still the best overall forum to talk about games.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

My god that wasnt the topic.

The topic was, focus on the gameplay, the maps, and how game fairs. But if all people cry about the characters looks, instead of those point, then you are a crybaby. Because you dont care about the basic fundamental of the game.

I am not buying the game for looks, but how fun it is. Just say the game is mediocre, and I can understand what you are arguing.

We are all adults, not children. I dont have time for silly shit.

But if someone doesn't connect with the character or characters that is in the same boat as everything you listed, it all matters

Do you feel that for racing fans the reason they love to race, and love cars is because they love how they look? Don't you think a good looking badass car is what motivates most racing fans to enjoy and love racing games?

 

[Risible]

He's out of the line since all these threads and actitudes are called out by other forum members without making a fuss or suicide accounting, but he's right that there is a little too many of them.

I think there's a pretty good amount of them TBH.

To me, GAF and ResetEra are two sides of a coin, but it's a weighted coin. I'm a center-leftie. Reset is just too far left, too authoritarian in it's mod style . GAF is right with a bunch of lefties to balance it out, and unlike Reset the lefties can call out retarded bullshit without worrying about a ban.

If I see a post talking about whatever woke boogieman has crawled up someone's ass I can rest assured that a few posts in someone will have called them out and that call-out post will have a ton of likes.

There's a reason I still frequent GAF and very rarely go to Reset.

Note: this is all just, like, my opinion, man, maybe other see it differently and I'm delusional, who knows.

 

[tkminus]

But if someone doesn't connect with the character or characters that is in the same boat as everything you listed, it all matters

Then don't bother with the game. Ignore it. All you are doing is put too much stress on yourself for no reason. You got the money. Buy what you like. You don't like it, don't buy it. Don't let others tell you what to buy or not.

Do you feel that for racing fans the reason they love to race, and love cars is because they love how they look? Don't you think a good looking badass car is what motivates most racing fans to enjoy and love racing games?

The choice is yours. I watch sports. I follow a team. All they did is keep disappointing me nonstop every year. While I am here, giving a hope to myself one day, I will celebrate with them.

No one told me to support them. I did. The blame is on me for giving myself a hope of them winning anything.

That is life. Not everything is going to be fun as you think. Others enjoy winning shit, while you to watch your team sucks.

Sorry for that rant. I hate my team, and want to punch my old self for following them.

 

[Gonzito]

Dude is down right wrong.

1. NeoGAF is actually very neutral, maybe a little bit right leaning but not as much as people think, I wish some of you saw the Asian forums I visit, they are actually brutal and see us westerners as dumb ass neanderthals discussing the most common sense shit.

2. There's still a bunch of RetardEra ninjas around here, some of them are even willing to defend the whole woke stuff, hell you were probably one of them so you should have just ignored anyone who you don't like instead of killing your 13 year account.

3. Wokeness is a big topic and it goes beyond gaming, it's in all forms of entertainment and it's starting to affect human interaction, turning a blind eye and saying "you're all exaggerating" just makes you look like a complete ignorant.

What you said is great. I love this message, and it's true, we have retardera wokies in this forum, they are here between us pretending

I am glad they are so stupid that they announce themselves with threads like this.

Good riddance. And no, I am not going to stay quiet about the nasty, ugly, and repulsive woke culture.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Then don't bother with the game. Ignore it. All you are doing is put too much stress on yourself for no reason. You got the money. Buy what you like. You don't like it, don't buy it. Don't let others tell you what to buy or not.

The choice is yours. I watch sports. I follow a team. All they did is keep disappointing me nonstop every year. While I am here, giving a hope to myself one day, I will celebrate with them.

No one told me to support them. I did. The blame is on me for giving myself a hope of them winning anything.

That is life. Not everything is going to be fun as you think. Others enjoy winning shit, while you to watch your team sucks.

Sorry for that rant. I hate my team, and want to punch my old self for following them.

You're literally tho basically tryin to dictate to someone your way of thinking.

I have spent fucking hundreds of thousands in gaming, if I want to talk about a game and it's ugly characters for whatever reason I feel compelled to I absolutely will.

Too much stress on myself? Dude who the fuck are you to make a claim like that.. Like that is so fucking retarded to even say how about YOU just pass over when someone like me is talking about said game.

Your whole stance is lame dude, because you for some reason can't handle hearing negative opinions that differ from yours.. Everything you've said is litrelly that, you want to absolutely control people's thinking to simply align with with yours.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

All of the outrage, concern, anger any emotions boiling over, from either side of the aisle, about fucking videogame characters and their design, how woke they are or not, the color of their hair, they're hetero or not, are they trans or not, are they attractive enough for me to me jerk off with one hand and play the game with the other simultaneously?
It's exhausting no matter which side it's coming from.

And it's all performative outrage. Outrage for the sake of being outraged, and a need for attention.
Please dont spend all your GAF Outrage Points you've earned in one place.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

Selfie or your wife, fess up. Which is it?