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NeoGAF Plays Perfect Dark Zero again before putting it away forever
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Absolute Bastard
Member
I spent only 3 euros on PDZ and I still think I got ripped off. It's a pile shit with blood and maggots on it, worst game I've played on HD consoles.
Conrad Link
Member
Always meant to play it because of former love for Rare. Bought it at launch with my 360, just couldn't get into it. Played a bit of multi but the main game just didn't click with me.
Put it away for years, one day hoping my brother would get a 360 and a copy and we could play co-op or something...... he did, but we still haven't bothered to play it lol.
One day maybe. Just such a low opinion of it, so disappointing. Makes it hard to justify playing it above other things I actually want to play. I guess that is why I never got round to it.
Put it away for years, one day hoping my brother would get a 360 and a copy and we could play co-op or something...... he did, but we still haven't bothered to play it lol.
One day maybe. Just such a low opinion of it, so disappointing. Makes it hard to justify playing it above other things I actually want to play. I guess that is why I never got round to it.
Prophet Steve
Member
Wow, I didn't expect the reactions would be this bad.
I loved the multiplayer of the game, still not sure if I gonna play PDZ again but I will give it a thought.
I loved the multiplayer of the game, still not sure if I gonna play PDZ again but I will give it a thought.
I didn't buy an Xbox 360 at launch so I picked up the game after the initial hype/dissapointment and some singleplayer levels were quite awesome. You have to play the game on dark or perfect agent, otherwise you only get half of the objectives. If you're looking for a COD or Halo like experience you won't get it but Perfect Dark Zero is special in its own way. Too bad some levels did suck and Rare had to rush the Xbox 360 version because it was shaping up to be a great game.
Captain N said:
Hmm I was going by their website which lists the only option as "download" it, this may change things a bit.
Also off topic but is anyone having issues with the store locater on GS websites? It's telling me that nothing is in stock where I live and I've tested it on some rather big titles.
LaneDS said:
And the multiplayer. You can't deny that if the game controlled well it would have some of the best multiplayer experiences on current gen consoles.
I really hate this game for being so close to great but having one critical flaw. Just popped it in and the graphics are a mixed bag...that's true. But the online options and modes and the smooth as silk 32 player games from what I remember...it was all marred by the horrible controls that even today I could not stand.
BrokenSymmetry
Member
Never-equalled netcode for 32 players online, inventive weapons, amazing reloading animations, and best of all: customizable bots. Despite all its other drawbacks, PDZ has to be lauded for these achievements.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
This thread is now about how awesome the PDZ soundtrack is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcMUHbSkr_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaK7DHKWXJ4
Discuss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcMUHbSkr_0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaK7DHKWXJ4
Discuss.
ToyMachine228
Member
Someone PLEASE screenshot the last boss for me. I've already beat the game, but always laughed hysterically at the last boss and wanted to show friends, but I can never find a screen.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
http://perfectdark.retropixel.net/pdzero/char_zhangli.jpgToyMachine228 said:
RedRedSuit
Member
Iknos said:
What the... they weren't even great by launch standards.
The Faceless Master
Member
oh man, i remember my first time winning an eradication round all by myself, it was 5 on 5 n old town and i had the shotgun (motion sensor 2nd function) and i sprinted over to the enemy area, used the motion sensor and then wasted the entire team one by one. it was sooooo awesome!
StickyFingers
Member
It was one of the first games I bought on launchday. Played alot of it untill the savedata got corrupted, so I never looked back on it. I think I don't even played this game on my HDTV ever since I have it.
I guess it's cool and easy to hate on a game that's probaly too hard for them to play. And to think these people rather have the N64 game to play with.
PDZ was my first PD game and I like to keep it that way. I wasn't a fan of FPS back in the day untill I played Halo CE, so games like Goldeneye 64(played a little at friends place back in the day) or PD went past me.
Haters, you can keep that shitty PD64 to yourself. Every PDZ thread turns into a hatefest that is annoying as hell. Fuckers.
I guess it's cool and easy to hate on a game that's probaly too hard for them to play. And to think these people rather have the N64 game to play with.
PDZ was my first PD game and I like to keep it that way. I wasn't a fan of FPS back in the day untill I played Halo CE, so games like Goldeneye 64(played a little at friends place back in the day) or PD went past me.
Haters, you can keep that shitty PD64 to yourself. Every PDZ thread turns into a hatefest that is annoying as hell. Fuckers.
Everdred said:
The fact that Gamestop doesn't even have it out on its shelf anymore begs to differ.
Terrible game, indeed. I played a lot of the multiplayer (mainly because it had split-screen online play) until I got CoD2, then put it away forever. At least I sold it when it was still worth something.
brain_stew
Member
I'm still wondering whatever the hell Rare did with that netcode. Virtually "lag free" 32 player P2P multiplayer in an FPS title is completely unheard of and no one has come close since.
PDZ got so much of the multiplayer aspect right and it was a very ambitious project, it had a crapload of potential and could make for an awesome sequel. Its still unmatched (on consoles) in a lot of areas despite suffering from some pretty major flaws the most acute of which being the near complete lack of auto aim that makes the controls insanely difficult for anyone used to your average console FPS that is jam packed with auto aim and self correcting crosshairs. If the game supported a KB&M it would have been epic.
PDZ got so much of the multiplayer aspect right and it was a very ambitious project, it had a crapload of potential and could make for an awesome sequel. Its still unmatched (on consoles) in a lot of areas despite suffering from some pretty major flaws the most acute of which being the near complete lack of auto aim that makes the controls insanely difficult for anyone used to your average console FPS that is jam packed with auto aim and self correcting crosshairs. If the game supported a KB&M it would have been epic.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Fuck the haters. I recognise the game had many, many faults, but during the launch of the 360 it seemed absolutely amazing. So many fond memories.
I'll never go back, because it would probably ruin them. :lol
I'll never go back, because it would probably ruin them. :lol
Dead Man Typing
Member
Pre-launch
This game is going to rock, it's got online co-op, split screen multiplayer, 32 player online multiplayer and is a launch title for the Xbox 360 so it's going to be the best looking game around! I can't wait, this is the 360's Halo!
10 minutes after starting to play it
It's okay, I'll just tweak the sensitivity... and maybe.. turn on the auto aim... no that doesn't work... turn off the fast turn... that helped a little... Why does it look so bad!?
This game nearly ruined my 360 launch purchase, thank goodness I'm a huge PGR fan. King Kong was also fun. Much more fun than PDZ. I played it again earlier today (without seeing this thread) I'd forgotten there is only one check point per level when playing Perfect Agent. I was right at the end of the first level (mission 0) when I died and I was sent back by about 10-15 minutes of progress. The game was then turned off.
It just isn't good, and should have been delayed, because the guys at Rare must've known it stunk. At least with it installed to the HDD it loaded pretty quickly.
This game is going to rock, it's got online co-op, split screen multiplayer, 32 player online multiplayer and is a launch title for the Xbox 360 so it's going to be the best looking game around! I can't wait, this is the 360's Halo!
10 minutes after starting to play it
It's okay, I'll just tweak the sensitivity... and maybe.. turn on the auto aim... no that doesn't work... turn off the fast turn... that helped a little... Why does it look so bad!?
This game nearly ruined my 360 launch purchase, thank goodness I'm a huge PGR fan. King Kong was also fun. Much more fun than PDZ. I played it again earlier today (without seeing this thread) I'd forgotten there is only one check point per level when playing Perfect Agent. I was right at the end of the first level (mission 0) when I died and I was sent back by about 10-15 minutes of progress. The game was then turned off.
It just isn't good, and should have been delayed, because the guys at Rare must've known it stunk. At least with it installed to the HDD it loaded pretty quickly.
brain_stew said:
The problem was that it was very lenient when it came to the client-server conversation. Normally, both clients send data to the server (such as shooting someone who appears on your screen to be in front of your crosshairs) while the server decides who is right. In PDZ, the server simply assumed that you were right, making EVERYONE right regardless of ping. Thus, you could get killed seconds after hiding behind cover, but since there was no glitching or ghosting you assumed there was no lag at play.
I bought this game last month for like $12 new/shipped from Newegg.com. Just checked and it is $13 shipped now...so if anyone wants to check it out. My copy is still sealed. Been too immersed in MAG and BFBC2 to give it a shot. I will be doing so prior to the release of PD XBLA, though!
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soul creator
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I'm probably one of the few that liked the single player. The single player sucks if you view it as a linear, story-based shooter, but is pretty cool if you approach it as more old school "try to get through this perfectly without dying" type of thing. I liked the different objectives tied to the different difficulties as well. I beat Perfect Agent, but I don't think I'll ever get the Dark Agent achievement though :lol
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I loved single player too. 
Th higher difficulties felt so similar to going through Goldeneye on 00 Agent... there's a fine art to going as painfully slow as possible through a level because you know a few bullets kill you. The number of times I'd run into enemy sight, then back around a corner waiting to pounce... :lol
I remember on Dark Agent, during the level with the big bridge, I found it IMPOSSIBLE to go up across it, so I went down underneath into the weird rooms they had there, and camped for literally 30-45 minutes taking everyone out as they ran towards me. Then I came so close to dying on the invisible enemies that had the energy pulse rifle things at the very end. I did it, though.
I'd have that fucking achievement if it wasn't for the Jungle level. I attempted it God knows how many times, watching every single guide possible, and I still couldn't do it. I mean, at the start you basically have to glitch the enemy spawning to even survive. It's that bad.
When you take the higher difficulties into account I must have played 30/40 hours alone on the single player. Jesus.
Th higher difficulties felt so similar to going through Goldeneye on 00 Agent... there's a fine art to going as painfully slow as possible through a level because you know a few bullets kill you. The number of times I'd run into enemy sight, then back around a corner waiting to pounce... :lol I remember on Dark Agent, during the level with the big bridge, I found it IMPOSSIBLE to go up across it, so I went down underneath into the weird rooms they had there, and camped for literally 30-45 minutes taking everyone out as they ran towards me. Then I came so close to dying on the invisible enemies that had the energy pulse rifle things at the very end. I did it, though.
I'd have that fucking achievement if it wasn't for the Jungle level. I attempted it God knows how many times, watching every single guide possible, and I still couldn't do it. I mean, at the start you basically have to glitch the enemy spawning to even survive. It's that bad.
When you take the higher difficulties into account I must have played 30/40 hours alone on the single player. Jesus.
Future PhaZe
Member
I'm in, but the game IS shit.
I actually competed in Gamebattles for it back in the day when the hype was up there so I know it can be quite a competent competitive title when the settings are right.
Phatal FaZe
This will be the last time I ever play this game.
I actually competed in Gamebattles for it back in the day when the hype was up there so I know it can be quite a competent competitive title when the settings are right.
Phatal FaZe
This will be the last time I ever play this game.
Dead Man Typing
Member
Foliorum Viridum said:I loved single player too.
I remember on Dark Agent, during the level with the big bridge, I found it IMPOSSIBLE to go up across it, so I went down underneath into the weird rooms they had there, and camped for literally 30-45 minutes taking everyone out as they ran towards me. Then I came so close to dying on the invisible enemies that had the energy pulse rifle things at the very end. I did it, though.
I'd have that fucking achievement if it wasn't for the Jungle level. I attempted it God knows how many times, watching every single guide possible, and I still couldn't do it. I mean, at the start you basically have to glitch the enemy spawning to even survive. It's that bad.
When you take the higher difficulties into account I must have played 30/40 hours alone on the single player. Jesus.
This would be my definition of hell. I'm getting dangerously close to breaking my self imposed embargo on PDZ hate. It was getting out of hand.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Heh. What can I say, it gave me some nostalgic fun that I hadn't felt since 1997 with Goldeneye, and it was during the slow launch period of the 360. Plus I was 15 at the time, so not only did I have a lot of time on my hands, but I wasn't as critical of games as I am now.Dead Man Typing said:
Edit: I just looked at the achievements, and no wonder I only have 550 points for it. Some of those multiplayer achievements are insane... play 1000 games of each mode.
All I remember about the multiplayer was being in a game with a ton of people trying to glitch-roll their way into areas. Then we tried split screen, which was pretty horrible as it was hard seeing where we were/what we were doing (the darkness levels were all over the place).
And that was the end of my multiplayer experience.
And that was the end of my multiplayer experience.
APZonerunner
Member
I am in. This was a great multiplayer game. It was buggy, but it had the spirt and heart of Goldenye/PD at its core, and until the double-whammy of Halo 3/COD4, it was one of the most fun online shooters on Live.
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RockmanWhore
Member
cjelly said:
There are many things wrong with PDZ, but you're right, at least the soundtrack is awesome. I wish Microsoft didn't rush the release for the launch, the game was obviously not ready. I hope that Rare will get another chance to make the PD shine again.
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkDN4KAhRYY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGPjKRXawiA