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Nerd Attack: Are Goku and Superman really that different?

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Luscious LeftFoot said:
I don't see how luffy or one piece compares to dbz in the slightest.

*Edit - you probably mean b/c they're both loveable idiots.
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Motherfucker keeps powering up. He's even got the gear modes now, that's very much akin to the super sayajin crap from DBZ.

There's a large cast of well rounded characters as well, that provide good support, but ultimately it always rests on Luffy to take out the biggest and the toughest.

He's always the underdog in his fights, and the fights just keep getting more ludicrous.

That shounen jump formula wasn't always around you know.
 
Dahbomb said:
:lol

Speaking of which... Alucard is the Japanese Spawn? Immortal beings? An interesting question is who would win between the two? I want to see the Spawn vs Hellsing fans, let's see which side can come up with the craziest abilities.
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I guess so. :lol Both are ridiculously overpowered, but, for the record...Alucard did lose one fight and could have gotten killed. I think it was Integra's father that kicked his ass. I dunno though, that mother fucker can take a thirty rockets, a trillion bullets, and five grenades to the face and just laugh it off.
 
Luffy IS the new Goku, he's the new role-model for a whole new generation.
Aegus said:
Violence Jack = the Japanese Punisher?
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Hmmm don't think so, Jack's more "evil" if you can say that about a guy who lives on that kind of world.
 
Blackace said:
I hate to get into this. But the monkey king legend has nothing to do with Superman and as Goku grew up and started doing the super saiyajin thing I would saw he is more of a "Rocky" figure than anything. Always having to face a bigger, badder, faster foe. Superman is always the top dog and never has to grow in his powers.

But they both can fly so I see where the confusion comes from..
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Is Superman even capable of expanding his powers and becoming stronger? His power has always seemed static; it's usually enough to handle most people easily but when he's catching a beatdown, there isn't much left to draw from.

Shallow and cheesy as it was, Dragonball Z was always about the power of the spirit, not the body. Goku was always superior to Vegeta because he had something worth fighting for, not because he physically trained harder. His feelings toward his family and friends always pushed him that much further into his inner strength.

Son of Godzilla said:
Didn't Goku have something else that turned him into a simpering pansy?
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When he had his tail, the moon made him transform. Most of the things that happened to his family/friends only served to make him that much stronger. His most dramatic ascension came in response to the death of his best friend.
 
tri_willy said:
never did goku get piss weak after looking at a tiny bit of kryptonite
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I hate jumping in these nerd threads (I like to keep it on the down low) but if Trunks hadn't gone back in time, Goku would have died from the heart virus during the Cell Saga.

WickedAngel said:
Is Superman even capable of expanding his powers and becoming stronger? His power has always seemed static; it's usually enough to handle most people easily but when he's catching a beatdown, there isn't much left to draw from.
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Superman is sorta like a battery. He gets his strength from our yellow sun. So the more exposure to the sun he get, the more powerful he becomes. Actually, All-Star Superman deals with this in a very unique way.
 
Grizzlyjin said:
I hate jumping in these nerd threads (I like to keep it on the down low) but if Trunks hadn't gone back in time, Goku would have died from the heart virus during the Cell Saga.
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We're all on NeoGAF right now man...we're all, at the very least, closet nerds.
 
Superman, Goku, Jesus pretty much the same. Except Jesus's space capsule was in a womb.
grandjedi6 said:
What similarities? There are no specific similarities between Superman and Goku outside of being powerful.
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Nearly-last-of-their-kind space aliens arrive on Earth as babies, get adopted, come to think of themselves as Earthlings, and become the planet's biggest defender and goody-two-shoes boyscout.
 
CrushDance said:
What? Both born from far away planets that were destroyed, powers based on touchy things such as "emotion" and red suns, speed, strength, death. On and on.

Kyptonite. Tail.

Sun. Moon.
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Eh. The tail was burned off ages back, and Goku's only potential weakness is being too nice. Supes has magic and Kryptonite. At his strongest through, Goku's capable of vaporizing a solar system. Supes has never demonstrated that destructive potential. Also the more Goku is mortally wounded, the stronger he gets. Supes just dies, splits into energy beings, has dudes named Henshaw steal his DNA etc.
 
castle007 said:
I don't get it :(
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Ippo, from the boxing manga Hajime no Ippo, is famous for his seemingly inexhaustible ability to improve greatly by training between matches. It is therefore concluded that if he was given enough prep (training) time, he could beat anyone.




*sweatdrop*
 
PhlegmMaster said:
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Ippo, from the boxing manga Hajime no Ippo, is famous for his seemingly inexhaustible ability to improve greatly by training between matches. It is therefore concluded that if he was given enough prep (training) time, he could beat anyone.




*sweatdrop*
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WOW

I can't believe people laughed at that :|
 
Look man i know im going to hell for putting these two charechters against each other, but im going their any ways so what the heck.

You want a real battle?!

Duke Nukem VS Ash Williams (Evil Dead)


I know duke is based off of ash but duke has his own thing going on an American hero who gets all the babes, And doesnt let aliens disrupt out independence

On ward with the BATTLE!
 
Son of Godzilla said:
Didn't Goku have something else that turned him into a simpering pansy?
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Bust out a syringe and Goku becomes a bitch.

Anyways, the characters aren't that different, though I can't believe the OP had to ask whether or not Superman came first. Regardless, both are amongst the last survivors of their destroyed planet and are essentially the hero everyone looks up too. Both fight for the same ideals and essentially the same morals (protecting the weak, defend life, etc.).

The Bardock movie was probably my favorite DBZ one. Good emotion and character involvement providing better context for the Frieza saga.
 
grandjedi6 said:
Well there was a Dragonball/One Piece one, but thats about it. As you would expect, there isn't much interaction between Japanese and American comic writers
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What? This is news to me.
 
Zaptruder said:
Motherfucker keeps powering up. He's even got the gear modes now, that's very much akin to the super sayajin crap from DBZ.

There's a large cast of well rounded characters as well, that provide good support, but ultimately it always rests on Luffy to take out the biggest and the toughest.

He's always the underdog in his fights, and the fights just keep getting more ludicrous.

That shounen jump formula wasn't always around you know.
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What the hell are you talking about? Luffy has had ONLY ONE "power up" and that was in the form of gears...not to mention they weren't generic unexplainedd strength increases, and technically it wasn't really a power up. It's just him pumping air into his body to do different things, he doesn't actually become stronger

Not to mention Goku (and Gohan) were the only characters in DBZ would defeated the enemies, no one else could do anything significant. While Luffy always beats the strong enemy all the crew members have important roles. You're simplifying it to only fighting for the sake or your argument

And this last one is just stupid. What would be the point if he was stronger than the enemy? Where would the suspense come from if he could easily beat them? Not to mention, it wouldn't make sense for him to be stronger than most experiences pirates/marines
 
Superman came around in 1938 by Jerry Seigel and Joe Shuster (sp?), so yeah, Supes is older.

But yes, they're essentially the same.

Cept for the tights.

And the hair...
 
bjork said:
As far as Goku and Superman, there's similarities, but I never saw Superman getting any sort of spirit bomb together, and when Goku died, at least the wish via the dragonballs made sense. You didn't get multiple faux gokus all trying to be him.
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Goten...?
 
Greatness Gone said:
Can superman turn blond on a dime? No, didn't fucking think so.
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I'm so glad your back. <3

Also, while Superman can be defeated by kyrptonite, Goku is, like any modern male, prone to heart disease. Although in the end the heart disease made him stronger by the time travel stuff with Trunks and the hyperbolic time chamber.

So definitely, Goku is a lot different, in the sense that kryptonite is basically, in the wrong hands, a death sentence for Superman, Goku's main weakness can be developed into a positive attribute.

I'm not sure I know what all of that means
 
goku does not have any real weaknesses for the time being. the tail weakness proven by nappa and vegeta clearly shows that it can be overcome. goku scared of needles is not of a major significance. clearly goku has the moves over superman anytime
 
Power to power, it wouldn't even be a fight, really...Superman wouldn't stand a chance.
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Superman is invulnerable, can move at the speed of light and can move galaxies with his strength
 
1. Superman came first

2. America > Japan

3. USA USA USA

4. Profit

5. Superman could easily fool Goku and anyone about his power levels.

6. Superman is on the Justice League

7. Justice League has Batman

8. Even Batman >>>>>>> Goku

9. Superman beat Superboy-Prime, so anyone else = LOL NO

10. Superman can time travel

11. RETCON PUNCH
 
This thread is the exact reason I try to stay in the gaming forum.

Where's that picard wtf is this shit image when you need it.
 
Tabris said:
This thread is the exact reason I try to stay in the gaming forum.

Where's that picard wtf is this shit image when you need it.
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Yeah, because a "best water splashes in a game?" thread is so much more awesome.
 
Yoboman said:
Superman is invulnerable, can move at the speed of light and can move galaxies with his strength
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Of course given the notion that Superman different eras has changed, since you are talking more like Silver Age Superman. It ain't exactly the constant thing, and for a long runner superhero, it's reflected during the time since Superman has gotten smashed around too, he can get hurt simply because he isn't the only heavy bruiser there is, with high power beings and other things like the Flash being faster.

His invulnerability is about in the sense of Hulk or Silver Surfer, insanely durable.

Heck, World War Hulk was basically designed as character that could take on and beat the shit out of someone like Superman in this era...hence his fight with Marvel's equivalent the Sentry.
 
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