hemo memo
Gold Member
It's really funny. Expecting the next excuse to be "Nintendo care about the environment, thank you Nintendo. please take the extra chargers I don't use."
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NES Classic Edition Thread: Now You're Playing With Power* *Sold Separately in Europe
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It's really funny. Expecting the next excuse to be "Nintendo care about the environment, thank you Nintendo. please take the extra chargers I don't use."
Does your TV have USB entries? You can plug it there.
Robin64
Member
Yep, all 60Hz in the European one.
NESc is a better machine than WiiU, true story
DJ Lushious
Member
I believe this as much as I believe moon landing or 9/11 conspiracies.
And to keep this from being a drive-by shit post, I don't have any facts to back up my viewpoint. Nintendo plays this card with so many hardware releases, yet the other console manufacturers have handled launches way better. Like, with preorders, for example.
outunderthestars
Banned
There is literally no reason to keep supplies of a product like this constrained and miss the entire holiday season.
Then at the very least you're saying Nintendo is incompetent. Which is quite frankly a tired argument. This clearly isn't the first time they've been behind when it comes to something like this. The Wii and Amiibo are the first to spring to my mind.
For what it is. It's a relatively cheap product, clearly not hard to produce etc. At the very least you're saying Nintendo doesn't even know their own fanbase. There are clearly hundreds of thousands hell maybe even a couple million who would have bought this. It made no sense to produce less units here in NA than it did in Japan.
In reality they should have had preorders for Amazon, GameStop Best Buy etc.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Oddly I have a strange feeling this might be a limited edition thing then again you never know with Nintendo.
Beer Monkey
Member
Gamestops here are packed with people spending gift card money. Still a ton of opportunity to move stock if they can get it to the stores.
Lupin the Third
Member
They sold 200,000+ units so it's not like they "missed" it. But I refer you to our overlord Tomonobu Itagaki's recent interview for some insight:
Source: http://www.polygon.com/features/201...-and-future-of-tomonobu-itagakis-devils-third
Itagaki talking about super-low print run on Devils Third said:
Fact is, they can't go saying "here, make 500,000 units for launch" if they think they'll only sell 250,000. Or if their official projections say they'll sell between 150,000 and 200,000 units, it makes no sense to HQ for them to manufacture more than 150,000 initial units.
But they can estimate they'll sell 100,000 but still make 125,000 just to be "safe", and then when demand blows away their deliberately super-conservative internal projections, they can scramble to pump out some extra units and claim them all as "unanticipated demand" in order to request a bigger bonus from HQ..
But truthfully, we KNOW they knew demand was higher because retail people like me ordered way more than were shipped. They did this on purpose.
There's another aspect to this: they're selling these for $60 each, but its BOM is going to be waaaayyy higher than any single $60 Wii U game. Since it's more expensive to produce and a new product category for them, that is probably also a factor in why they were deliberately over-conservative.
Polioliolio
Member
These still aren't available? Guh
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
All true, but also just goes to show how poor their market research is. Other than doing a great job tabbing into a new huge market with the Wii and DS, they've really been out of touch with the gaming market post SNES.
-Carts instead of CDs for the N64
-Moving away from exclusive shooters after the N64 despite the huge growth in the genre on consoles and how popular Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Turok etc. were
-Proprietary discs instead of DVDs for the GCN, when DVD movies were becoming huge and helped move PS2s.
-Thinking the Wii U tablet would appeal to the tablet crowd, or that people in the west would care about offtv play in large numbers when we're mostly spoiled in houses with multiple TVs unlike the Japanese market that's shifted to portables and mobile
-Underestimating demand for Amiibo, NES Classic etc. Seriously, just announce new things earlier and take preorders way in advance to help gauge consumer demand before setting a production target.
Nyteshade517
Member
checked my local Walmart today and they didn't have any...the space on the shelves was there but none in stock
looked online at the ebay price and lol...no
I'll just keep an eye out every now and then to try and get one eventually
looked online at the ebay price and lol...no
I'll just keep an eye out every now and then to try and get one eventually
Haha, I checked the local walmart last night and also noticed they finally have a space for it. It's a start right...
I think it takes a little longer to load a game or suspend point when the CRT filter is turned on. There's a little extra overhead when that filter is enabled.
Probably imperceptible to 99.9% of people playing this thing but I'm constantly pushing the home button on my Classic Controller and abusing the hell out of save states.
I was also reading some of the early impressions and comments from nesdev regarding the emulation. The CRT mode does something to distort the audio. I sat and played the end of Super Mario Bros. 2 a couple of times with/without the filter and the CRT mode tends to bend/distort a few notes.
Probably imperceptible to 99.9% of people playing this thing but I'm constantly pushing the home button on my Classic Controller and abusing the hell out of save states.
I was also reading some of the early impressions and comments from nesdev regarding the emulation. The CRT mode does something to distort the audio. I sat and played the end of Super Mario Bros. 2 a couple of times with/without the filter and the CRT mode tends to bend/distort a few notes.
SolarMystic
Member
This is Nintendo we are talking about right? Incompetence and not understanding their fanbase comes with the territory. Their inability to read market trends and understand even basic advertising has come back to bite them on numerous occasions.
But actual data don't support your statement about the Wii
The reason the Wii was supply constrained until 2009 was that demand was unprecedented.
Bill Rizer
Member
Couldn't this be intentional?? I think to remember when playing my old Nes, that some sounds were odd at times. Maybe it emulates bad tv speakers. What type of distortion is it?
It's probably intentional. I just noticed that some of the impressions people were getting about the sound emulation were based on YouTube videos where the CRT filter was enabled.
I didn't hear any significant differences in the audio until I turned on the filter myself and that's when I went back to see what some people were talking about.
It's a nice touch because it does hollow out the music (very slight hall effect) and warp one or two notes (noticeable if you play the end credit scene for Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA)) ...
But actual data don't support your statement about the Wii
The reason the Wii was supply constrained until 2009 was that demand was unprecedented.
All I'm saying is that this isn't the first time Nintendo has had a supply problems. The Wii gets a pass because yes it was a breakout hit and no one could have truly predicted that. But it still had supply issues.
This is just something that's being associated with Nintendo now and it's just not a good look.
Lasthope106
Member
I have noticed some distortion, chugging in World 7 of SMB3. Not sure if that's how it was in the original or if it's the limitations of the emulator on the NES Classic.
In other news, I'm in World 8 of SMB3 and I rage quitted yesterday because of how hard it is. How in the hell did people manage to beat the thing in one sitting, playing all the content, without saves back in the day.
I was at the end of World 7 thinking it was the last level, then I got to World 8 and the beginning area isn't really World 8, but a whole bunch of levels that are much harder than anything that has come before. I hate it, but it's brilliant. It's like a final test of all your skills. The proper level 1 of World 8 is also brutal.
I feel like I lost my game cred since I'm constantly saving. Also it's blowing my mind how easy I remember it being in my childhood to go to different Worlds.
This game really is a masterpiece. The gameplay philosophy reminds me of Dark Souls. In games back in the day were punishing. You would have to play them for months memorizing all the locations of enemies, obstacles. In that respect, games like the Souls series aren't doing anything new really. They are just going back to how games were back in the day.
Playthru 1 = use the damn pause button to take breaks.
Playthru 2-99 = use the damn whistles.
We got literally 1 in today. Not even a full shipping case, just a singular NES Classic. Got a chuckle out of me to see it on the manifest. I'm hoping whoever bought it intends to actually play it and it wasn't a reseller.
perfectchaos007
Member
I was told that in 2017 it would be easy to walk into a store to get one. I'll test out that theory later this week.
Lasthope106
Member
I really hope the SNES is able to let you download more games from the eshop.
If there is ever a SNES classic. I think there should be. Then Nintendo better learn from this and allow BB, GS and amazon to take preorders to avoid this situation.
If the PAL version has 50Hz games because of the Germans, i won't buy that
Frankfurter
Member
Why because of Germany?
Nyteshade517
Member
I'm wanting to get one to actually play...at some point I'll be lucky enough and get one
just no telling how long "some point" may take
D.Lo
Member
It won't. they just released the NES mini with Super Contra on it, Probotector is dead.
Oh Nintendo.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Ordered an Raspberry Pi kit off Amazon today along with a Bluetooth SNES controller. Oh well, missed opportunities everywhere Nintendo.
Lasthope106
Member
IMACOMPUTA
Member
I know you didn't ask me, but I too gave up on the nes classic and went the RetroPie route.
I got the canakit with the heatsinks, case, and power supply. Also got 2 8bitdo sfc30's.
Took all of 10 minutes to get it up and running. Fantastic.
Might get a SNES case from Etsy or see if a friend can 3d print one for me.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWVVMUI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It has a 'better' micro sd card and was cheaper than the canikit. Also picked up a SNES30 controller, will more than likely order another if my wife likes it.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Yep. I finally got around to setting of Retroarch on my PC and have no interest in an NEE classic now. Nor an SNES or N64 classic.
Lasthope106
Member
I have a NES Classic and will get a SNES Classic if Nintendo ever releases one. As convenient as emulators are with setups like the Retropie, I'm still interested in having something made by Nintendo.
always crazy bacon
Banned
A SNES classic would be amazing.
sixteen-bit
Member
Nintendo: *laughs*
Violence Jack
Member
I'm honestly considering going this route now. I did pick up one of the official controllers, but I'm done looking for this thing.
Lasthope106
Member
I knew this things were not going to be in stock for a while. So happy I got mine on release day.
Reptars Revenge
Member
Friend at work tried to get the mini NES. Never could find it. Said fuck it I'm going to get the switch instead. Gave him a fist bump.
Glass Shark
Banned
This is really dumb and savagely anti-consumer.
Lasthope106
Member
Nintendo still hasn't sorted their shit out?
I'm lucky I preordered and actually received mine. Hell, even that was a hassle. I preordered it the second it went live only to get shafted and they gave them to people who preordered like, weeks later. After much complaining, they found one elsewhere in Europe and sent it to me.
Nintendo really needs to sort their shit. At this point, it's not even funny. It should not be this hard to manufacturer and sell these when demand is so high and the system seems relatively cheap and easy to mass produce.
I'm lucky I preordered and actually received mine. Hell, even that was a hassle. I preordered it the second it went live only to get shafted and they gave them to people who preordered like, weeks later. After much complaining, they found one elsewhere in Europe and sent it to me.
Nintendo really needs to sort their shit. At this point, it's not even funny. It should not be this hard to manufacturer and sell these when demand is so high and the system seems relatively cheap and easy to mass produce.
Yes this. Some will come in and try to side with Nintendo and everything but reading the above post about a store getting 1 in is terrible. I mean at this point stores should be getting 101 in, not 1.
Oh and got to love the every 15th post of the person "feeling bad" yet have to add how they are glad they got theirs in response to someone who didn't.