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[bufkus]

yeah its been bad but i don't really care. i'm pretty casual when it comes to gaming and primarily play the Switch while sitting on the toilet or lounging in bed at night (for maybe 30 minutes or less). so far in 2018 i've beaten DQ builders, tried a few indie/small games, and now tackling Atelier Lydie & Suelle. I know these games are all ports but I wouldn't have had the attention span to play them on the PC or PS4.

the Switch is still pretty good for what it offers. Treating it like a console is a mistake.

 

[CloudStrife_ca]

I've been alright with the lineup, of course I play my PS4 and Xbox One as well, between the big 3 consoles if one feels kind of dry, there are 2 others offering up other games. The next big thing on the Switch for me will be Octopath Traveler, have the CE pre-ordered. Between now and the Fall/ Winter lineup I have enough to play. I will say the lack of a Mario Party game on the Switch is very noticeable, they could have done a compilation game and I think every Switch owner would have rushed out to buy it, the Switch is the perfect format for a Mario Party game.

 

[Bakkus]

I agree. Good thing I have backlogs and other hobbies, tho.

 

[kunonabi]

I haven't been a fan of the switch's lineup from the jump. 2017 only had ARMS and Splatoon 2 that consider must owns and this year at the moment is all about Octopath Traveler so far and it isn't even out yet. Once we get some announcements and some solid release dates at e3 I expect this year to improve but not by a while lot. This might be my least favorite start to any Nintendo console in all honesty.

 

[WaterAstro]

They don't have enough first party to keep up the momentum, and third party aren't 100% on board yet to fill in the gap.

 

[Afro_Knight]

LOL I'd wait for E3 before I start saying the 2018 lineup is trash. Remember that they're only showing stuff coming out this year.

 

[Fbh]

Yeah it has been terrible.
As I posted in the Pokemon Let's Go! thread, I know E3 is soon and things can change but it's June already and so far there's literally one game I'm looking forward to on Switch (Octopath Traveler). It's the first console I've owned that has reached June with only a single confirmed upcoming release that interests me for the rest of the year....and I had a WiiU!.
And It's a shame too because the Switch went from one of the strongest launch years ever to one of the weakest lineups of any console I've ever had.


And I know I've brought this up in other threads but this is the point where some decent sales would help. All consoles have some terrible months but that's the time when you can take advantage of some deals and catch up with releases you missed, that's the point when on a Ps4/Xb1/PC you go like "lots of people on GAF said Prey is actually really good, it's on sale for $20 right now so I guess I'll pick it up".
But Switch being a Nintendo console everything is overpriced and rarely drops, so Splatoon 2 is $60, Fire Emblem Warriors is $60, South park is $60 (doesn't even include DLC), Doom and Skyrim are $60.... etc. That is before you include all the barebones $60 ports like Hyrule Warriors, Tropical Freeze and Bayonetta 2
With the 20% off from that Detroit "quest" on the PS site from last week I actually just picked up God of War for less than what Skyrim is being sold on the Eshop

 

[KevinKeene]

LOL I'd wait for E3 before I start saying the 2018 lineup is trash. Remember that they're only showing stuff coming out this year.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/neve...h-terrible-2018-lineup.1462745/post-253279158

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I have already sold mine because outside of Odyssey and Splatoon 2, there's nothing that interested me (owned Zelda and MK8 on Wii U).

I'm not aware of anything on the horizon that makes me think I acted too hastily.

 

[The Sane Psycho]

What I think they should do is buy up 3rd party and indie developers when they have the chance. They should have bought Atlus when they were selling, then they would have had the best exclusive JRPG console. They should have bought Capcom when they were at their lowest, then they would have Resident Evil, Mega Man, and Street Fighter Nintendo exlusive. If they buy a company like Yacht Club or WayForward, then they have an even better library of exclusive platformers and retro style titles. And other indies would give them more unique and risky exclusives that many AAA devs aren't doing.

Think about how much of a fearsome beast Nintendo would be if they started doing this. They would have exclusive titles all throughout the year, and maybe it would draw traditionally non Nintendo gamers into the fold so they can play those exclusives. And they wouldn't need 3rd party support as much if their 1st party lineup was that strong. But, on the other hand, I don't really know all that much about business, so maybe my idea is actually pretty stupid.

 

[VertigoOA]

Only thing that could get me to rebuy and care about the switch again is IF Metroid Prime 4 somehow delivers. But I honestly have ZERO faith in Namco. Only if somehow it's this new studio that miraculously has stellar talent — but at the moment not really excited to see what the teams behind naruto and one piece can do with the IP.

I'm still surprised there's no home use only unit. I don't do handheld gaming. Don't care and because of it seems extremely overpriced for a dated home experience.

Then again. That's just one game. But I still love Metroid so whatever

 

[cartman414]

Problem with nintendo and a lot of japanese devs is that they're still supporting the 3ds and the damn thing is already like 8 years in the market. Shoot the damn thing already and start making games for the switch.

The 3ds has the unique dual screen mechanic, and is more portable than Switch.

 

[cubicle47b]

It's a little weird to create this thread so close to E3. It was certainly a very slow first half of 2018, but I don't even know how I'm going to find the time to play half the games I want in the second half.

 

[KevinKeene]

It's a little weird to create this thread so close to E3. It was certainly a very slow first half of 2018, but I don't even know how I'm going to find the time to play half the games I want in the second half.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/neve...h-terrible-2018-lineup.1462745/post-253279158

 

[Danjin44]

They should have bought Atlus when they were selling, then they would have had the best exclusive JRPG console.

They already have Atlus making them SMTV one of their best series. It just Atlus always take their sweet time releasing games.

 

[cubicle47b]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/neve...h-terrible-2018-lineup.1462745/post-253279158

I addressed that.

 

[blu]

Did I expect one big new game every quarter? Yes. Past Nintendo-systems had that.

So for H1 2018 we've had Kirby (March) and Aces (June).

What am I missing, OP? /rhetorical question; OP does not like those games.

 

[faraany3k]

I have so many unfinshed games in my library across multiple platforms and generations that I find gaming to be an impossible task.

So good on Nintendo and Xbox to keep their libraries very short. But I do wonder Nintendo can ever top their 2017 lineup. 2 GOTYs in a year was remarable stuff.

 

[KevinKeene]

So for H1 2018 we've had Kirby (March) and Aces (June).

What am I missing, OP? /rhetorical question; OP does not like those games.

Sell a console to people by marketing BotW. Have a generic Kirby-game be the only H1/2018-relase with a tennis-game at the tail end.

I mean ... duh?

 

[LucidFeuer]

Nothing new about your thread, but just wanted to second that in case crazy degenerate nintendo latecomers fanboy (you know, the degenerate that kept on saying the Wii U is a success even after it's announced discontinuation) still have something to say about those facts.

I had hopes for the Switch even though I don't like the console (I think it's a mediocre hardware), almost bought one for Odyssey, but then realise than Nintendo was at it again with no tiers support and shit indie games. Hopefully Nintendo will really sort their shit out and use their damn franchise backlog to make great games (F-Zero, Starfox Adventure, Metroid, Wave Race, Pokemon, Luigi's Mansion, Donkey Kong 128 etc...)

 

[prag16]

Bayonetta is crying
Wolfenstein is crying
South Park is crying
Lost Sphear is crying
Hollow Knight is crying
Kirby is crying
Dark Souls is crying
Donkey Kong is crying

I played Wolfenstein, South Park, and Dark Souls on PC.
I played Bayonetta and Donkey Kong on Wii U.
I don't give a shit about Kirby.
I've never heard of Lost Sphear or Hollow Knight.

What now?

 

[jadedm17]

What? Indies say hello, Owlboy came out this week.

Switch lineup hasn't matched 2017 but that's not fair, 2017 was amazing; You need to expand your horizon if you think Switch has no games in 2018.

 

[InterMusketeer]

What? Indies say hello, Owlboy came out this week.

Owlboy is an old-ass game as well. If I wanted to play it, I would have already.

Indies are no replacement for exclusive big budget titles.

 

[xwez]

Switch is pretty much just a "port machine". This whole generation has been disappointing in that regard though (not just limited to switch, but also Xbox one and PS4).

I know development costs can't be as much as Sony/Microsoft games, so get your shit together Nintendo.

 

[Refreshment.01]

Problem with nintendo and a lot of japanese devs is that they're still supporting the 3ds and the damn thing is already like 8 years in the market. Shoot the damn thing already and start making games for the switch.

What does the 3DS has to do with this? All of Nintendo main teams are onto Switch projects while 3DS gets remasters/remakes by subcontractors. Ironically enough people are giving them a hard time for the amount of Wii U ports yet the company gets complains also because the 3DS is getting "old" games the Switch isn't. So which is it then: Want ports or not?

The drought on Switch is objefranchises)ctive.

Kirby
Then Aces

That is a drought. Old ports/late ports don't fall under 'tastes'.

There are way too much unsuported claims on your part across the thread:

• Where is your factual comparison with release schedules of past Nintendo systems contrasted against the Switch to see if infact the rhythm of releases has slowed down compared to the past?
• Why is Labo been intentionally left aside? Maybe not of your tastes but it is a product that demanded a ton of R&D (probably more so than many Nintendo games) and gathered lots of attention.
• What's the reason for ports of exclusive games on a platform that sold less than 14 million to not be counted as important releases? There's a whole new audience that will play them for the first time. Specially something like Bayonetta 2, an exclusive that sold substantially less than 1 million copies. Do you remember the threads when it was announced for the "system no one wants"? Well there's the game on a system with high demand now.
• Kirby, Labo, Aces, Octopath, Fire emblem, Smash, Pokemon and possibly more are exclusive releases with less than a quarter buffer, which proof that your claim doesn't hold ground.

And what drough exactly? List the releases between March 2017 and june 2018 and there's like a ratio 1:1.5 games a month, just counting important exclusives. There's 3rd party, indi and minor first party releases people like to ignore for some reason.

 

[deriks]

I played Wolfenstein, South Park, and Dark Souls on PC.
I played Bayonetta and Donkey Kong on Wii U.
I don't give a shit about Kirby.
I've never heard of Lost Sphear or Hollow Knight.

What now?

Go play Lost Sphear and/or Hollow Knight, man

 

[Codes 208]

Not that i disagree entirely, but Didnt you already make a reactionary thread to nintendo fans *cough*worst fanbases*cough* supposed excitement for pokemon?

 

[theclaw135]

The drought on Switch is objective.

Kirby
Then Aces

That is a drought. Old ports/late ports don't fall under 'tastes'.

Being objectively measurable as the "truth" doesn't mean it's significant.

We could go on and on, moving the goalposts about how many Switch users must own or intend to buy the other consoles the ports are on, for it to make a real-world difference.

 

[Gamer79]

I get a chuckle out of these threads. Nintendo has been dealing with droughts since the n64. Nothing new.

 

[KevinKeene]

What does the 3DS has to do with this? All of Nintendo main teams are onto Switch projects while 3DS gets remasters/remakes by subcontractors. Ironically enough people are giving them a hard time for the amount of Wii U ports yet the company gets complains also because the 3DS is getting "old" games the Switch isn't. So which is it then: Want ports or not?

There are way too much unsuported claims on your part across the thread:

• Where is your factual comparison with release schedules of past Nintendo systems contrasted against the Switch to see if infact the rhythm of releases has slowed down compared to the past?
• Why is Labo been intentionally left aside? Maybe not of your tastes but it is a product that demanded a ton of R&D (probably more so than many Nintendo games) and gathered lots of attention.
• What's the reason for ports of exclusive games on a platform that sold less than 14 million to not be counted as important releases? There's a whole new audience that will play them for the first time. Specially something like Bayonetta 2, an exclusive that sold substantially less than 1 million copies. Do you remember the threads when it was announced for the "system no one wants"? Well there's the game on a system with high demand now.
• Kirby, Labo, Aces, Octopath, Fire emblem, Smash, Pokemon and possibly more are exclusive releases with less than a quarter buffer, which proof that your claim doesn't hold ground.

And what drough exactly? List the releases between March 2017 and june 2018 and there's like a ratio 1:1.5 games a month, just counting important exclusives. There's 3rd party, indi and minor first party releases people like to ignore for some reason.

I don't like your tone, but I'll reply anyway:

1.) This doesn't matter. If there really was a similar drought before, it doesn't excuse this one. Two wrong don't make one right.

2.) Labo is left aside because Reghie/Nintendo said prior to its release that it wouldn't take away from the core gaming offerings, it'd be its own thing. So I'm treating it that waym and yes, I dislike Labo.

3.) Nintendo must make games for Nintendo-fans first and foremost. Nintendo-fans had a Wii U. It's asinine to count those ports as part of a fresh lineup, so.I'm not doing that. I also made this thread from the perspective of me, a consumer. Neither me nor you should care about an impersonal overall market perspective. It doesn't benefit us.

4.) My claim is that the H1/2018 lineup is inexcusable and a great 2nd half won't change the past. And stop saying 'proof', it makes you look ridiculous. This isn't court.

People aren't ignoring any releases. People dot care about expensive late-ports. Neither about Wii U-ports. Nor about indie-games that exist everywhere and have never ever been a major factor. What matters are 1st-party support of new games, same day-ports of 3rd party-titles and exclusive 3rd party-titles. The rest is meaningless fluff.

Maybe you're one of those people that deluded themselves into hyping games like Ever Oasis, but most gamers don't care about these games. H1/2018 has been terrible - how do you benefit defending that?

 

[TLZ]

What does the 3DS has to do with this? All of Nintendo main teams are onto Switch projects while 3DS gets remasters/remakes by subcontractors. Ironically enough people are giving them a hard time for the amount of Wii U ports yet the company gets complains also because the 3DS is getting "old" games the Switch isn't. So which is it then: Want ports or not?

There are way too much unsuported claims on your part across the thread:

• Where is your factual comparison with release schedules of past Nintendo systems contrasted against the Switch to see if infact the rhythm of releases has slowed down compared to the past?
• Why is Labo been intentionally left aside? Maybe not of your tastes but it is a product that demanded a ton of R&D (probably more so than many Nintendo games) and gathered lots of attention.
• What's the reason for ports of exclusive games on a platform that sold less than 14 million to not be counted as important releases? There's a whole new audience that will play them for the first time. Specially something like Bayonetta 2, an exclusive that sold substantially less than 1 million copies. Do you remember the threads when it was announced for the "system no one wants"? Well there's the game on a system with high demand now.
• Kirby, Labo, Aces, Octopath, Fire emblem, Smash, Pokemon and possibly more are exclusive releases with less than a quarter buffer, which proof that your claim doesn't hold ground.

And what drough exactly? List the releases between March 2017 and june 2018 and there's like a ratio 1:1.5 games a month, just counting important exclusives. There's 3rd party, indi and minor first party releases people like to ignore for some reason.

The fact that in this thread not ONE post mentioned Labo, not ONE, neither for nor against, tells you enough about it.

 

[KevinKeene]

I get a chuckle out of these threads. Nintendo has been dealing with droughts since the n64. Nothing new.

THAT MAKES IT OKAY TO REPEAT THESE MISTAKES?

God, I can't stand self-defeating people. Never challenge the status quo, always be obedient and celebrate a shitty Pokemon, another Falcon-clone Ganondorf in Smash, and welcome Animal Crossing being the exact same game it has been since the N64-original, except this time with a new collection category, huh?

We wouldn't have gotten BotW with your attitude. Zelda sucked. It doesn't suck anymore. The H1/2018 lineup sucked. Let's be vocal and make no more sucky half years.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Listing a bunch of ports and a handful of other titles is more or less proving his point.

A number of ports from a platform that no one purchased. Plus a number of titles (such as Dark Souls) that fans have wanted to have portable for years.

 

[theclaw135]

I get a chuckle out of these threads. Nintendo has been dealing with droughts since the n64. Nothing new.

Well, my personal experience with n64 never had a drought. I happened to be there at the right time, and liked the right types of games.

Back to back fun in a way no other console has equaled. Ocarina of Time, WWF No Mercy, Star Fox 64, Banjo, Diddy Kong Racing, Mario Kart, etc.

I don't like your tone, but I'll reply anyway:

1.) This doesn't matter. If there really was a similar drought before, it doesn't excuse this one. Two wrong don't make one right.

2.) Labo is left aside because Reghie/Nintendo said prior to its release that it wouldn't take away from the core gaming offerings, it'd be its own thing. So I'm treating it that waym and yes, I dislike Labo.

3.) Nintendo must make games for Nintendo-fans first and foremost. Nintendo-fans had a Wii U. It's asinine to count those ports as part of a fresh lineup, so.I'm not doing that. I also made this thread from the perspective of me, a consumer. Neither me nor you should care about an impersonal overall market perspective. It doesn't benefit us.

4.) My claim is that the H1/2018 lineup is inexcusable and a great 2nd half won't change the past. And stop saying 'proof', it makes you look ridiculous. This isn't court.

People aren't ignoring any releases. People dot care about expensive late-ports. Neither about Wii U-ports. Nor about indie-games that exist everywhere and have never ever been a major factor. What matters are 1st-party support of new games, same day-ports of 3rd party-titles and exclusive 3rd party-titles. The rest is meaningless fluff.

Maybe you're one of those people that deluded themselves into hyping games like Ever Oasis, but most gamers don't care about these games. H1/2018 has been terrible - how do you benefit defending that?

The late ports are fresh from a very relevant perspective: Switch users who don't own the consoles those games are on.

 

[Alfadawg]

I love my switch.

I'm so desperate to buy some amazing Nintendo games but they don't want my money. I'm pinning my hopes on E3.

Hopefully this is the last year for the 3DS

 

[Vawn]

But Octopath Traveler is 2018....

 

[Gun Animal]

Lol OP if you think this year is bad, just imagine how bad last year would have been if BotW were a Wii U exclusive.

What we learned from 2017 is that all Nintendo needs is one big AAA single-player game every six months or so, and everything else is just gravy. Clearly they botched the first half of 2018. E3 will tell us about the second half.

 

[Vawn]

I have so many unfinshed games in my library across multiple platforms and generations that I find gaming to be an impossible task.

So good on Nintendo and Xbox to keep their libraries very short. But I do wonder Nintendo can ever top their 2017 lineup. 2 GOTYs in a year was remarable stuff.

That may be the biggest backhanded compliment I've ever heard.

 

[Refreshment.01]

I don't like your tone, but I'll reply anyway:
1.) This doesn't matter. If there really was a similar drought before, it doesn't excuse this one. Two wrong don't make one right.

It matters when you say:

This is so terrible. I've bought every Nintendo-system since the N64 and I cannot remembered such a crass drought within a system's life. Even if there was, it doesn't matter: this is the super successful Switch, Nintendo is supposed to spend all their teams' efforts on only one system instead of 2. And that's it?

Which is a factually wrong statement. Also you are not in a position to decide if a fact matters or not, when you are spewing wrong information you run the chance that it will called out.

2.) Labo is left aside because Reghie/Nintendo said prior to its release that it wouldn't take away from the core gaming offerings, it'd be its own thing. So I'm treating it that waym and yes, I dislike Labo.

Labo is been left outside because of "elitism", one that is not so different from say... not counting the Wii as the system that sold more units in the 7th generation or "f*ck VR", "Screw Motion Controls" etc . If it doesn't fit an specific gamer whims then it doesn't deserve to exist it seems.

3.) Nintendo must make games for Nintendo-fans first and foremost. Nintendo-fans had a Wii U. It's asinine to count those ports as part of a fresh lineup, so.I'm not doing that. I also made this thread from the perspective of me, a consumer. Neither me nor you should care about an impersonal overall market perspective. It doesn't benefit us.

There are multiple things to adress here:

• Nintendo's core base is bigger than the 13 million units of the Wii U which were surpassed both by it's companion handheld the 3DS and in the case of the successor, the Switch, in less than a year. So yes, the people that didn't have access to that Wii U software do count and most of them are Nintendo-fans since some of those ports are surpassing sales of the Wii U versions in the same amount of time.
• KevinKeene and Refreshment.01 are not simple consumers, they are informed ones on an enthusiast gaming board. As such we know that the realities of game development extend beyond the company snapping it's fingers and high quality software appearing from thin air.
  
  

  4.) My claim is that the H1/2018 lineup is inexcusable and a great 2nd half won't change the past. And stop saying 'proof', it makes you look ridiculous. This isn't court.

  Make claims that don't correspond with reality and you will be called up on them. You are completly free of making a thread to vent your frustrations with the cuarrent line up without resorting to fabricate dubious claims.
  
  

  People aren't ignoring any releases. People dot care about expensive late-ports. Neither about Wii U-ports. Nor about indie-games that exist everywhere and have never ever been a major factor. What matters are 1st-party support of new games, same day-ports of 3rd party-titles and exclusive 3rd party-titles. The rest is meaningless fluff.

  Multiple things to adress:
  • Some of the "old" ports outselling the originals in the same time frame do proof that people care for these games. And since when a game being "old" bares any relevance? A classic is a classic just like in other media, the real issue comes when the game is "out dated". Neither Bayonetta nor DK for example are since they are still some of the best games in their respective genres.
  • i wasn't trying to give the impression that late 3rd party ports are an OK. However, there are various exclusive indi games of high quality and day 1 indi releases. They do matter to people that love games.
• 
  

  Maybe you're one of those people that deluded themselves into hyping games like Ever Oasis, but most gamers don't care about these games. H1/2018 has been terrible - how do you benefit defending that?

  It's not much about defending, it has to do more with facts and reality. We are not a group of oblivious kids having playground level discussion about gaming. The Zelda's and Odysseys, which you had in less than a year btw, take years upon years to develop and we are talking about a platform that is mainly supported by one publisher. Factually, youdo have "the game a quarter" rule satisfied so far, but it is unrealistic on your part to expect it to be a high caliber title that you will 100% like.

 

[KevinKeene]

It matters when you say:

Which is a factually wrong statement. Also you are not in a position to decide if a fact matters or not, when you are spewing wrong information you run the chance that it will called out.


Labo is been left outside because of "elitism", one that is not so different from say... not counting the Wii as the system that sold more units in the 7th generation or "f*ck VR", "Screw Motion Controls" etc . If it doesn't fit an specific gamer whims then it doesn't deserve to exist it seems.


There are multiple things to adress here:

• Nintendo's core base is bigger than the 13 million units of the Wii U which were surpassed both by it's companion handheld the 3DS and in the case of the successor, the Switch, in less than a year. So yes, the people that didn't have access to that Wii U software do count and most of them are Nintendo-fans since some of those ports are surpassing sales of the Wii U versions in the same amount of time.
• KevinKeene and Refreshment.01 are not simple consumers, they are informed ones on an enthusiast gaming board. As such we know that the realities of game development extend beyond the company snapping it's fingers and high quality software appearing from thin air.
  
  
  Make claims that don't correspond with reality and you will be called up on them. You are completly free of making a thread to vent your frustrations with the cuarrent line up without resorting to fabricate dubious claims.
  
  
  Multiple things to adress:
  • Some of the "old" ports outselling the originals in the same time frame do proof that people care for these games. And since when a game being "old" bares any relevance? A classic is a classic just like in other media, the real issue comes when the game is "out dated". Neither Bayonetta nor DK for example are since they are still some of the best games in their respective genres.
  • i wasn't trying to give the impression that late 3rd party ports are an OK. However, there are various exclusive indi games of high quality and day 1 indi releases. They do matter to people that love games.
• 
  
  It's not much about defending, it has to do more with facts and reality. We are not a group of oblivious kids having playground level discussion about gaming. The Zelda's and Odysseys, which you had in less than a year btw, take years upon years to develop and we are talking about a platform that is mainly supported by one publisher. Factually, youdo have "the game a quarter" rule satisfied so far, but it is unrealistic on your part to expect it to be a high caliber title that you will 100% like.

You fully ignored the point and made this borderline psychotic reply posting. You will always find an excuse for Nintendo if you keep moving goalposts and argue from a perspective that is not your own.

I'm an average gamer, I have a PS4 and a Switch. The H1/2018 lineup of Switch has been shockingly terrible. That won't change, no matter the number of bullet points you spread this into, no matter how many times you write 'multiple things to adress'.

At the end of the day, you're the one suffering from this lacking lineup. That's worth calling out. But, of course, you'll fin
d an excuse here, too.

 

[Yagami_Sama]

I think is okay,

On the first year Nintendo need to show a lot of stuff for the console in order to show that the problems that Wii U had will not happen with the Nintendo Switch. For that reason , I think that they went "all out".

And since the console was success and it is selling very well, I think that they decide to slowdown and plan carefully the releases of this year. I do agree that if we compare the same period of the first year and this year. The firs years has an advantage, but I believe that with the releases planned from July / December, things will be alike.

 

[noqtic]

Does the first half of 2018 deserve praise? Probably not, but it sounds like you're putting a lot of pressure on Nintendo when they only have but so many developers. Third parties have to fill in the gap at some point, and if you're not interested in ports, indies, or you own another system then you're frustration is understandable. The Switch is still relatively new and a first year filled with ports is normally par for the course for any system, not sure why you were expecting a Nintendo system of all things to break that chain.

I know I'm personally looking forward to;
Mario Tennis Aces (haven't played a GOOD Mario Tennis game since the GBC)
Octopath Traveler
Smash
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Travis Strikes Again
Monster Hunter
The Worlds Ends With You (If Square can keep the 2018 release date)
A couple indies and if some other games get a solid 2018 release date at E3 I might be able to add to the list.

Not going to please everybody but I'm happy.

 

[InterMusketeer]

It matters when you say: I've bought every Nintendo-system since the N64 and I cannot remembered such a crass drought within a system's life.

Which is a factually wrong statement.

How is that a factually wrong statement? He's saying he can't remember a draught like this happening before. You have a way to prove he does in fact remember?

 

[ThatStupidLion]

Agreed 2018 lineup has been lackluster so far

I actually didnt even like odessey either which i just played.

Most of my switch enjoyment has come from smaller third party titles

 

[Chairman Tickles]

For those of us with Switch as a secondary system (to PC) for Nintendo masterpieces, it's a dream and I hope they take their time and put out more Xenoblades, Mario Odysseys, and Breath of the Wild standard of games.

In between you have many great third party games, especially indie games you can enjoy on the go.

 

[noqtic]

How is that a factually wrong statement? He's saying he can't remember a draught like this happening before. You have a way to prove he does in fact remember?

I think he just means that the OP is using faulty reasoning.

 

[Refreshment.01]

How is that a factually wrong statement? He's saying he can't remember a draught like this happening before. You have a way to prove he does in fact remember?

That's speech in rhetorical terms, that Kevin didn't bother to adress that in one of his replies should clue you in. Besides that, i clearly pointed out that the statements that don't hold to scrutinity are multiple across the thread:

• 1.

  No no no.
  They had no trouble filling a full year during the Wii U-era. And even then: Nintendo no longer has to spread its ressources thin between console and handheld. No excuses.

• The drought on Switch is objective.
  Kirby
  Then Aces
  That is a drought. Old ports/late ports don't fall under 'tastes'.

• 2.

  Did I expect one big new game every quarter? Yes. Past Nintendo-systems had that.

• 3.

  And Nintendo certainly didn't even try to do so. ;/

• 4.

  But nobody can like H1/2018 when there was no markable new release outside of Kirby. That's why I made this thread: I've read too many fanboys,already who try to excuse H1/2018 with the year end-releases, and I strongly oppose that attitude. 3 good games at the end of the year don't make 6+ months of nothing okay. This thread isn't about people liking specific games. It's about the overall 2018 lineup. And that's terrible and will end being terrible unless nintendo announces 2-3 ambitious games at E3.

• Sell a console to people by marketing BotW. Have a generic Kirby-game be the only H1/2018-relase with a tennis-game at the tail end.

• 4.

  People aren't ignoring any releases. People dot care about expensive late-ports. Neither about Wii U-ports. Nor about indie-games that exist everywhere and have never ever been a major factor. What matters are 1st-party support of new games, same day-ports of 3rd party-titles and exclusive 3rd party-titles. The rest is meaningless fluff.

  After the statement i adressed he goes to imply that: 1) Wii U never experienced such "droughts". Just compare the 2 systems 15 months and see how that fares. i even suggested for him to do the comparison to other Nintendo consoles starting with N64.
  
  2. Did I expect one big new game every quarter? Yes. Past Nintendo-systems had that. To which various people pointed out that indeed the Switch is getting a significant release every quarter. Again if we look at the first 15 months that's indeed the case if not even at a higher rate.
  
  3. He can't speak about the entirety of 2018 without certain knowledge of the full line up. Or well at least he shouldn't.
  
  4.People dot care about expensive late-ports. Neither about Wii U-ports. Well we do have sales data that prove this is not the case for some of the ports. And he's dismissing the expanded audience over the Wii U for whom these games are been played on the Switch for the first time.
  
  Again as i was very clear in the first post im not against Kevin or any other forumer expressing their disapointment with the line up. What im against is threading questionable statements to justify their views. Try to share more logical takes on the matter as i consider them more valuable than a very subjective take.

 

[Fizggig]

Are you forgetting Octopath Traveler? Thats a very hyped up game. Sure, the momentum died the first half but do you really think they were gonna keep it forever? Honestly I dont need 100 games a month I can barley afford so many game nor do I have all the time in the world to play all of them. Not really sure why people have to complain about not having 10k games a year. Maybe go see a movie or go to a show?

 

[Gun Animal]

My two cents KevinKeene:
1. I REALLY CARE about Wii U ports because I didn't own a Wii U. I'd rather have three or four U port announcements at E3 than one new game announcement... at least until ALL the major Wii U exclusives have been ported over.

2. I REALLY CARE about 3rd party ports, even late ones, because the option to play old PS360 and PS4/XBONE on a handheld platform is a huge convenience for me. There are a lot of games that I wouldn't have played on PS4 or PC but that I'd love to play on the Switch. Not to mention... being able to play Dark Souls anywhere? With co-op partners sitting right next to me on their own switch? Holy cow.

 

[Hanon]

looking though Gamestop's list of Switch games, i think people are just looking though exclusives and late ports? it doesn't have as much games as the Ps4/PC have maybe, it's still surprisingly getting there and it's a step up above the WiiU for sure. journey out your comfort zone and try finding some gems.