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New Crysis Q&A, pics and a video!
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bee
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mrmojo said:
same old thing every damn crysis thread, people with crystal balls who know exactly how this game will run on various specs of pc i.e shit. The rest saying "oh theres no way my pc will run this" or "im not spending $3k on a pc than can actually run this" blah blah
game looks stunning as usual and the gameplay looks interesting too judging from that new video(which is a surprise) just hope it isnt delayed yet again.
bee said:
Really, for me that's all i need to upgrade
I guess for those with like P3's or P4's you may need to upgrade a lot more, but for those with X2's/Core 2 Duo's and 2GB of RAM, all that is needed is that baby right there (or its bigger brother the 8800GTX).Personally I'm waiting till ATi brings out the R600, because that will surely push down nvidia's top-end prices for sure.
AltogetherAndrews
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theBishop said:
I'm one of those people who do believe in the untapped potential of these consoles, and I think the Cell in particular is going to prove to actually be more than the hype suggests. So I have plenty of faith in the systems. But thinking that they could get the game running with the same visual quality and performance on these relatively crippled consoles as on a high end PC, that just seems delusional to me.
BlueTsunami
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Its crazy how the DX10 Cards are carrying more VRAM than what a lot of people probably have in their computer as far as general RAM :lol
8800GTS is mine this year...so mine
and this game looks awesome, art direction (as far as Cyborg Design and Mechs) look awesome. Not everything has to be saturated with the same art direction.
8800GTS is mine this year...so mine
and this game looks awesome, art direction (as far as Cyborg Design and Mechs) look awesome. Not everything has to be saturated with the same art direction.
Teknopathetic
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"Assuming these specs aren't overly optimistic, PS3 and 360 should be able to handle it. The big snag is RAM, but without the OS overhead, I'm sure Crytek can work around it."
Devs said it isn't happening. Let it go. I'd expect something like Crysis: Instincts, though.
Devs said it isn't happening. Let it go. I'd expect something like Crysis: Instincts, though.
Teknopathetic said:
In August, lead designer said "next generation consoles like the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 do not offer the sufficient power".
In October, Crysis' lead Artist told gamesindustry.biz: "I don't think there would be any problem to convert anything we work on to the next-gen consoles"
Also, Crytek had a job listing for a PS3 programmer with these responsibilities:
AltogetherAndrews
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theBishop said:
Even the minimum spec puts it out of reach of the next-gen consoles in terms of memory requirements, OS overhead or not (this is not to mention the fact that consoles suffer from Os overhead as well these days). The recommended specs are well beyond that, and recommended does not equal ideal. I'm not saying we won't see a port of the game on consoles, but it just plain won't look anywhere near this good. Far Cry was one of few games that was designed to push PC hardware of the time, and if Crysis is the same way (which it seems to be), then fat chance of seeing this level of quality on PS3, let alone Xbox 360.
I think there's some validity to the concerns over the system requirements. Press shots always use the highest detail setting. Most people don't have systems capable of meeting that specification. Hell, I'd wager most people are still stuck with SM2.0 cards like my 9600 Pro Turbo. It's now 3 years old, and the thought of ponying up the bucks for a DX10 card scare me. But that's not a reason to knock the game. I'm all for devs pushing the visual envelope, even if I'll never be able to see the game on my screen looking like that. This game looks all kinds of hot. Really, really impressive engine. I can't wait until it's actually done. PEACE.
I disagree. Both systems have bandwidth advantages over the PC. The PC has a GPU advantage, but this game won't stress those cards just yet, and being closed systems, the consoles will be able to hit their peaks quicker. I think console versions of this game should look every bit as good as these screens. I don't see anything in particular that's going on that's beyond their scope. The most interesting thing to me has been the physics system, and the CPUs the 360 and PS3 have are more than capable of keeping pace with the PC systems. All IMO, of course. PEACE.AltogetherAndrews said:
AltogetherAndrews said:
Here are the hardware requirements for the original Splinter Cell game on PC:
specs said:
The original Xbox had 64 MB RAM shared between the GPU and the rest of the system. And the Xbox version compared quite favorably to the PC version.
I would go as far as to say Crysis will run better on consoles than the average mid-range PC experience. Of course, on Nvidia's 8800 (or ATI equivalent) series, it will be significantly nicer.
Teknopathetic
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"In October, Crysis' lead Artist told gamesindustry.biz: "I don't think there would be any problem to convert anything we work on to the next-gen consoles"
Also, Crytek had a job listing for a PS3 programmer with these responsibilities:"
Uh, yeah. Crytek's been working on (and have been quite open about) porting the ENGINE to consoles for some time.
Also, Crytek had a job listing for a PS3 programmer with these responsibilities:"
Uh, yeah. Crytek's been working on (and have been quite open about) porting the ENGINE to consoles for some time.
theBishop said:
A. the former comment was made by the assistant game designer
B. The latter comment was made by an artist
C. They have said since the very beginning that they are porting the engine for resale purposes (to compete with UE3 for instance)
D. Don't hold your breath for a direct port, I'd expect a Crysis: Instincts thing though.
Once again... those "requirements" do not come from Crytek, the developer. They are just speculation by a Crysis fan. The game is still months off from release so the requirements are not ready to be announced yet. Once you see Crytek making a announcement about the requirements you'll know the game is pretty near release.theBishop said:
Don't believe stuff if it doesn't come from the official source!
Teknopathetic
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"You think they will get the "ENGINE" ported, and not bring the game along with it?
You know EA is publishing, right?"
If you don't have anything more solid than publishing history (which is hardly conclusive) to base your assumption on (considering it's conflicting directly with the developer themselves), then I'm not sure this discussion's going anywhere.
If you want to bring up publishing history, Battlefield 2 (an EA game) wasn't ported to consoles, they got a completely different game made for consoles. Far cry (Which is a Ubi game, who also ports games to as many systems as possible) wasn't ported to consoles, either. It also had a completely different game remade for consoles.
You know EA is publishing, right?"
If you don't have anything more solid than publishing history (which is hardly conclusive) to base your assumption on (considering it's conflicting directly with the developer themselves), then I'm not sure this discussion's going anywhere.
If you want to bring up publishing history, Battlefield 2 (an EA game) wasn't ported to consoles, they got a completely different game made for consoles. Far cry (Which is a Ubi game, who also ports games to as many systems as possible) wasn't ported to consoles, either. It also had a completely different game remade for consoles.
Teknopathetic
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"Teknopathetic please use the godd*mn quote button. It's there for a reason."
I am, it's right here on my keyboard.
I am, it's right here on my keyboard.
AndoCalrissian
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I just watched a bunch of older videos of Crysis and noticed that the guns don't seem very powerful. I've noticed this with weapons in other games too, like the pistol in Doom 3 seemed weak, and the guns in Half Life 2.
Far Cry, on the other hand, had what felt like very powerful weapons to me. Anyone else notice this?
Far Cry, on the other hand, had what felt like very powerful weapons to me. Anyone else notice this?
AltogetherAndrews
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AndoCalrissian said:
Eh, I think that's just the basic weapon. And as I recall, the standard weapons (SMG, assault rifle) in Far Cry weren't that crazy powerful either. Wait until we see this gun in action, and then see how it compares.
MickeyKnox
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Big Intel price drop this summer people.
Quad Core for ~$500.
And I will be building a dual Quad rig.
Quad Core for ~$500.
And I will be building a dual Quad rig.
Pimpbaa
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theBishop said:
No it didn't. They were completely different games. The outdoor levels in the xbox version were very linear and enclosed whereas the pc version had vast open levels (and many hills and towers you could go up and look over the entire area). Also the indoor levels didn't even come close to the graphic quality of the indoor graphics in the PC version. This will be similar to what may happen to Crysis (if it is indeed a game with vast open levels). Although it might have similar graphic quality, it will have to be a new game with levels designed around the limited amount of ram next gen consoles have.
bigmit3737
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looks amazing...Thanks for the video.
Pimpbaa said:
are you talking about Splinter Cell or Far Cry?
I'm not talking about Far Cry in that example. Far Cry came later in the game. Far Cry didn't come along until 2004. In 2009, I'll be more skeptical about PC games coming to PS3/360. But now, they can handle anything coming to PC.
buckfutter
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Games that are as technically impressive as Crysis are very likely to reach the current generation of consoles, but Crysis itself is clearly tailored to the PC environment. Streaming levels are the next big thing but Crysis seems to rely on the huge memory available to gaming rigs for managing environments of this size even in multiplayer matches, and while that's something that may be possible using a streaming solution, it's highly unlikely to be achieved with a port-down of the engine. Especially seeing as in it's current state the game doesn't even really fair that well performance-wise with all settings on high, even on the probably insane setups Crytek uses for demonstrations.
at the drive-in
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I have a laptop.
How well would this integrated card be able to run this, or would it not be able to?
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/index.htm
I'm not concerned with the other specs.
How well would this integrated card be able to run this, or would it not be able to?
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/index.htm
I'm not concerned with the other specs.
MattPeters
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I cant wait for Crysis!
And my rig is ready to accept this beefy bastard.
And my rig is ready to accept this beefy bastard.
at the drive-in
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I have had no problems running any of the games I have played on it. System seems to run Half-Life 2 pretty smoothly (not sure of the specs for that game though.)
And I could run Far Cry with a Nvidia Geforce 4 440 GO, basically a high performance Geforce 2.
Pimpbaa
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at the drive-in said:
Running smoothly at what graphic quality loss (far cry on a card that isn't even capable of shader model 1.0 effects is hideous)? You have no hope of running Crysis, even with it's effects all turned off. The polygon count is simply too high. The gma950 lacks any sort of hardware vertex shaders or even fixed function hardware transformation and lighting (all done in software).
MattPeters
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An intergrated video card wont have a hope of running Crysis, no matter what detail or resolution level.
at the drive-in
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Well, with the nvidia card and Far Cry, I changed the resolution and took a framerate hit, but it played decent. Like playing Halo.
I have not played Far Cry on my other system (w/ intel integrated.) Would it perform significantly better than the nvidia at least?
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Oh, and with the nvidia card I could not play F.E.A.R. Would the intel integrated graphics be able to handle this ?
HomerSimpson-Man
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Holy shit!
Incredible.
My computer is crying just thinking about running this thing!!
Incredible.
My computer is crying just thinking about running this thing!!
Pimpbaa
Slop Inspector
at the drive-in said:
The nvidia card would perform better in far cry because it has hardware accelerated transformation and lighting even if it lacks shader model 1.0. F.E.A.R. is more demanding than Far Cry and Half Life 2, so I don't think it would run that well. Intel's integrated graphics is really bottom of the barrel stuff.
at the drive-in
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Thanks for spending so much time with this.
So, since the nvidia card seems to be the way to go, would upgrading my ram from 512 to 1 gig help the framerates at all? The system with the intel integrated graphics has much more powerful hardware, besides the video card it seems. I wish I could upgrade the nvidia card, but I don't think thats possible with any laptops correct?
This is bad because the pc with the intel integrated graphics has:
2GB ram compared to 512 with the nvidia system
Intel core 2 duo compared to AMD athlon 64 processor 3000+
Runs Vista Beta great compared to runs choppy
But yet the graphics are apparently worse, and I can't change it.
