I think I might have been too harsh, so genuinely sorry about that. That said, I 100% stand by what I said. Every character in DR3 is worthless, every character is creatively bankrupt, they all have bad designs and laughably weak motivations.
Well, everyone save Juzo.
A fighting game without Himiko is wrong. I want her to have a spammable fireball and say "magic" in every line.
Found this on reddit, maybe something else pointing towards their audition tapes being faked.
Off the top of my head, at one point in chapter 1 they reference a trial that we haven't seen ourselves, so you can infer that there have been more killing games from that.
There's also a bit more fourth wall breaking than usual even before the final chapter? Like the first scene of the game is Kaede introducing herself as the protagonist, so the idea of it going meta generally may occur to the player, even if not to that extent.
There's also how ridiculous some of the flashbacks are even by Danganronpa standards, but honestly this is the same series where Komaru gets possessed by a ghost randomly for plot exposition, so your mileage may vary there.
Other than that though... the theme of truth and lies? If you took that to its logical extreme, everything being potentially a lie is definitely a pretty reasonable conclusion to come to. Although again, mileage may vary.
Mostly the opening. The game forces you to watch a trailer for the first three games and anime that ends with "But wait, there's more! Danganronpa V3!" Kaede introduces herself as the protagonist and you see them all as normal mind wiped students, you see them get their new Ultimate personalities and even clothing. The opening reel has "Team Danganronpa" in it which isn't a thing.The problem with the twist is that there was no hints for it from what I can tell.
Anyone notice anything that hinted to the twist?
They've got the same bodies as their original selves, but they're minds and personalities are completely different. An idealist might think to look past that and say that they could re-enter their old lives without a problem, but realistically, both they and their family would be living with total strangers, assuming their parents accept to take them back in the first place. This still applies to them with the ending they got since they're still not back to how they were before.
I don't know what you mean. If you're talking about the pictures used to represent the people, then that's probably just because it would've been way too much of a strain to just design a bunch of heads that don't really have any purpose other than being background decoration
At the very end, when there's a hole in the fictional world and the camera pans out, you see the exterior as "team danganronpa" all over the place, I interpreted it as the outside of the "videogame" world.
Is there any picture of the killing files in suichi's room? I don't remember the transition from illustrations to photos
It really bugs me how everyone talks about the faking stuff even though the game spends like two hours thoroughly explaining why they wouldn't have had to and couldn't fake it. Tsumgi's room has a classroom set too- maybe the opening where none of them were ultimates was faked too?! Nobody at the beginning of the game outside of like Rantaro remembers the killing game or auditioning because they got hit by the black light. Kaede barely even remembers her own name. They shouldn't have even been there without the flashback light but the Monokubs messed up. I dunno why Rantaro remembers anything at all but maybe Black lights get less effective or he's just intuitive.
There is no "blackout light". That's a forged memory. If the characters completely forgot who they are, if they have different personalities all of a sudden, etc. why does Tsumugi claim that their first reaction to being chosen in that prologue event is excitement and joy over getting to take part in the killing game? That implies that their memories weren't tampered with in that prologue. Even if you believe that they willingly signed up for it, you have to take the prologue as evidence to the fact.
If it weren't for this game including it's epilogue I don't think I'd have entertained the idea that the characters didn't willingly sign up for it, because "hoping" for something else is what the game effectively disassociates by it's ending because it doesn't really matter who they were before their experiences in the killing game, but who they are after it, and the people they managed to influence. If the game wanted to make a conclusive point about itself, it should've just had them all die, since they were already willing to die to make their point, and abandon any concept of hope/despair. Instead it follows up on the idea of discovering truth among lies, which is infinitely more fun to speculate about when the context of V3 is such a clusterfuck of contradictions.
There is no "blackout light". That's a forged memory. If the characters completely forgot who they are, if they have different personalities all of a sudden, etc. why does Tsumugi claim that their first reaction to being chosen in that prologue event is excitement and joy over getting to take part in the killing game? That implies that their memories weren't tampered with in that prologue. Even if you believe that they willingly signed up for it, you have to take the prologue as evidence to the fact.
You are assuming that their excitement event and the prologue are the same event.
It is literally the exact same event, but with a retcon showing Kaito/Shuichi/Kaede expressing happiness interspliced into the conversation before Monotaro resumes the dialogue. Where and how else could that scene have happened? This is after they gain the ultimate attire. Did they suddenly just lose it again just to re-enact it? Are you suggesting they redid the prologue three times?
I kind of feel the need to go on a quick rant about Kokichi. I'll start off by admitting this might be a bit biased because I don't think there are any fictional characters I hate nearly this much, but it's driving me insane how some people come to the conclusion that he's not some malicious little shit because of the revelations at the end of the game about his group and his attempt to end the killing game by fooling Monokuma during chapter 5.
Someone on Tumblr pointed out the localization messed up by changing the wording in his motive video, which apparently originally said he was morally opposed to murder, to which I can only think (if that is what it really said) that must have been another one of his fucking lies. Maybe I can believe he didn't ever want to murder anyone himself, but saying he's opposed to it entirely seems like a load of bullshit when you look at how many times he tried to incite everyone else to do something. The incident with the motive videos, outing Maki's true identity to the others, and the entirety of chapter 4 all fly right in the face of that, especially chapter 4. Even if he was trying to stop Miu from killing him there were other ways he could have gone about thwarting her plan without resulting in her death, the most obvious being calling her out directly or just not going into the virtual world at all, but the instant he got Monokuma and the motives involved there's no way he wouldn't realize that it would result in someone being murdered again.
If his last moments and the revelations at the end really were supposed paint him in a more positive light and redeem him to any extent like some people believe, then I feel like Kodaka flubbed writing that as fucking hard as he possibly could.
You have exactly zero evidence that the first prologue and their kidnapping isn't part of the show.
The first prologue was clearly a clerical error that wasn't meant to happen. Monosuke and Monotaro are both confused by the state the students are in, and both the former and Monokid point out that Monophanie was supposed to implant their Ultimate Talents/Personalities before they got out of the lockers. The implication is clearly that the prologue we first experienced was intended to be the actual start, but that their screw up forced them to reboot and have them to go through the locker business again. There's more evidence pointing to that as opposed to it not being the case, because anything else wouldn't make sense, regardless of whether they were willing participants or not.
Found this on reddit, maybe something else pointing towards their audition tapes being faked.
And your evidence that wasn't scripted is?
Random thought but V3 could also mean victory to 3 people, aka the 3 sole survivors: Maki, Shuichi, and Himiko lol.
I like this theory.
I mean, they did say it was Victory prerelease for whatever reason.
As things started to be revealed at the end, I was really hoping the cast end up being prisoners who signed up for the killing game to get out of their sentences, since the prerelease info had said it was a prison/they were criminals or something like that?
Kodaka told a lot of lies in pre-release, it was part of the promotional gimmick. Also, I mean, he obviously can't reveal that it means 5I mean, they did say it was Victory prerelease for whatever reason.
As things started to be revealed at the end, I was really hoping the cast end up being prisoners who signed up for the killing game to get out of their sentences, since the prerelease info had said it was a prison/they were criminals or something like that?
I finished the game 2 days ago and I think I figured out a theory that could explain a lot of stuff in the game. Everyone participating on the killing game is a clone of a real person.
I like that Kaede agrees with me
2. When Monokuma gives them the necronomicon he is sure that he could revive someone. If the players are clones, they just could make a new one instead of actually reviving someone that died.
5. The machine that Shuichi uses to create the flashback light can be used to create the clones also. That's why the game doesn't let you play around with the different options and have you create a clone, they want to save the clone twist for the next game. Also, the things created by that machine spawn in the locker, just like players.
9. The clones are created with enhancements so they can perform their ultimate talents, no way it's all auto suggestion. They also can add things like the illness that Kaito had. No one would accept being part of killing game if the writers could just be assholes and give you some incurable disease, but if they gave that to your clone, you wouldn't be so mad.
10. K1BO is based on a real human, but they make a robot instead of using a clon.
I'm not willing to replay all of Ch6 yet, but I could've sworn they basically suggested this in the game itself. At least that was my impression when I closed the game and before reading anything on the internet.I finished the game 2 days ago and I think I figured out a theory that could explain a lot of stuff in the game. Everyone participating on the killing game is a clone of a real person.
It is just me or Keebo was right in all scrum debates? Maybe that foreshadowed that the audience was watching.
It is just me or Keebo was right in all scrum debates? Maybe that foreshadowed that the audience was watching.
I finished the game 2 days ago and I think I figured out a theory that could explain a lot of stuff in the game. Everyone participating on the killing game is a clone of a real person. That means that:
1. Everybody is eager to participate because they aren't risking their lives.
2. When Monokuma gives them the necronomicon he is sure that he could revive someone. If the players are clones, they just could make a new one instead of actually reviving someone that died.
3. The interviews are real, but they are done with the originals that know they are going to be cloned for the game.
4. The last line of Tsumugi about being a CopyCat refers to the fact she knows she is not the original. Tsumugi is the clone of one of the producers or writers and has all the memories of the original.
5. The machine that Shuichi uses to create the flashback light can be used to create the clones also. That's why the game doesn't let you play around with the different options and have you create a clone, they want to save the clone twist for the next game. Also, the things created by that machine spawn in the locker, just like players.
6. Because the players are clones and they aren't killing "real people" the killing game is allowed to shown across the world.
7. The Rantaro that records the message is a clone created for the 52th game. He is shown to be very calm because they are going to use a new clone for the 53th game.
8. The video they are shown at the last trial and the prologue are both real. The difference is that the prologue we see is for the clones that were created with the wrong set of memories and don't know they ultimate talent and the video is done showing the original finding out that they've been selected for the 53th game.
9. The clones are created with enhancements so they can perform their ultimate talents, no way it's all auto suggestion. They also can add things like the illness that Kaito had. No one would accept being part of killing game if the writers could just be assholes and give you some incurable disease, but if they gave that to your clone, you wouldn't be so mad.
10. K1BO is based on a real human, but they make a robot instead of using a clon.
So, what do you think?
I finished the game 2 days ago and I think I figured out a theory that could explain a lot of stuff in the game. Everyone participating on the killing game is a clone of a real person. That means that:
1. Everybody is eager to participate because they aren't risking their lives.
2. When Monokuma gives them the necronomicon he is sure that he could revive someone. If the players are clones, they just could make a new one instead of actually reviving someone that died.
3. The interviews are real, but they are done with the originals that know they are going to be cloned for the game.
4. The last line of Tsumugi about being a CopyCat refers to the fact she knows she is not the original. Tsumugi is the clone of one of the producers or writers and has all the memories of the original.
5. The machine that Shuichi uses to create the flashback light can be used to create the clones also. That's why the game doesn't let you play around with the different options and have you create a clone, they want to save the clone twist for the next game. Also, the things created by that machine spawn in the locker, just like players.
6. Because the players are clones and they aren't killing "real people" the killing game is allowed to shown across the world.
7. The Rantaro that records the message is a clone created for the 52th game. He is shown to be very calm because they are going to use a new clone for the 53th game.
8. The video they are shown at the last trial and the prologue are both real. The difference is that the prologue we see is for the clones that were created with the wrong set of memories and don't know they ultimate talent and the video is done showing the original finding out that they've been selected for the 53th game.
9. The clones are created with enhancements so they can perform their ultimate talents, no way it's all auto suggestion. They also can add things like the illness that Kaito had. No one would accept being part of killing game if the writers could just be assholes and give you some incurable disease, but if they gave that to your clone, you wouldn't be so mad.
10. K1BO is based on a real human, but they make a robot instead of using a clon.
So, what do you think?