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New DmC: Devil May Cry gameplay [Dante Redesigned Again]
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Actually I can totally see that happening, with a pretentious story that takes itself too seriously (hopefully partially redeemed by gems like "we have schools, you have mechs").jett said:Those people are retarded. The story in the DMC games is incomprehensible garbage. That's one aspect I can't see NT doing worse.
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It's nothing special, but it's a nice backdrop, and it sets up a lot of great fights/bosses. The writing is often horrible, but I'm personally more attracted to the characters and the setting than the actual motivations (DMC3 being the exception. I liked the story in DMC3, I don't give a fuck what anyone says).
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One (arguable) and three have good stories. 2 Barely has a story and 4 is more of a generic Anime story. Most of the love, I think, goes towards the lore and the characters themselves rather than any specific situations they go through.DR2K said:
Just watched the trailer. The framerate is awful, but maybe that was deliberate for the trailer? Either that or the animation needs to be smoother because it's really hard to see at times.
As noted earlier, Dante can cancel weapon animations into other weapon animations, but I don't think NT should be lauded for that. That's become a mechanic of every single action game out there, including Bayonetta and God of War.
On a more petty note, rainstorm animation is atrocious. Someone should make a gif of it.
Got a link? I'm pretty sure Capcom USA said that, not Ninja Theory.
As noted earlier, Dante can cancel weapon animations into other weapon animations, but I don't think NT should be lauded for that. That's become a mechanic of every single action game out there, including Bayonetta and God of War.
On a more petty note, rainstorm animation is atrocious. Someone should make a gif of it.
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Got a link? I'm pretty sure Capcom USA said that, not Ninja Theory.
Some of us do both.DR2K said:
No way!jett said:Those people are retarded. The story in the DMC games is incomprehensible garbage. That's one aspect I can't see NT doing worse.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29085191&postcount=1
Don't do that.sn00zer said:
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the irony is that Devil May Cry 4 was the series best seller and it negates the reason of rebooting for more sales or expanding the baseBobTheFork said:
which is why I believe nothing makes sense
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It's a revenge story. That's... something.Dahbomb said:
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"Dante" is a clone. So is "Vergil". They've been created by the Evolutionary Variety Agency (E.V.A.) to combine the best parts of Demon and Angel. clone!Dante goes in search of his creators to seek revenge... revenge for them making him like they did.Jocchan said:
Months from now I'll be able to say "Called it!"
gutter_trash said:
Capcom thinks that hiring the makers of Ensalved is just the tonic Devil may Cry needs to go from 2.6 million to 5 million.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html
Capcom are mental.
Here's what I think:
The new design elements they've changed are unfortunate. I really liked what they seemed to be trying to do with his initial design: the idea that young Dante was a drug-addled disaffected asshole. Why wouldn't he be? It's a reasonable and understandable development for him as a character. Too many people hate on things for not being what they like instead of considering whether it's appropriate for the character. It also created great contrast for when he first gets his Devil Trigger and suddenly adopts a more 'healthy' white-haired look; that's great artistic game design which won't be nearly as drastic now.
Concept art is amazing. The artist that painted those has incredible skill; the attention to detail and understanding of proportions is nearly flawless. Just look at the feet on the bottom left angel; the shading, shape, curl of the toes, coloring...it's all so well considered and perfectly executed. Anyone saying this is 'bad art' just has some moral issues; the painting tells a story, creates a scene, has lots of meaningful details that accent the message being sent...it's brilliant. You're not a 'marketing drone' if you happen to like this painting, you probably just love really well done art.
People complaining about him being half-angel are ridiculous; it's no more cliche than him being a half-demon 'badass'. If you're stuck with a cliche ridden poorly written supernatural world than might as well take it to the max.
The new design elements they've changed are unfortunate. I really liked what they seemed to be trying to do with his initial design: the idea that young Dante was a drug-addled disaffected asshole. Why wouldn't he be? It's a reasonable and understandable development for him as a character. Too many people hate on things for not being what they like instead of considering whether it's appropriate for the character. It also created great contrast for when he first gets his Devil Trigger and suddenly adopts a more 'healthy' white-haired look; that's great artistic game design which won't be nearly as drastic now.
Concept art is amazing. The artist that painted those has incredible skill; the attention to detail and understanding of proportions is nearly flawless. Just look at the feet on the bottom left angel; the shading, shape, curl of the toes, coloring...it's all so well considered and perfectly executed. Anyone saying this is 'bad art' just has some moral issues; the painting tells a story, creates a scene, has lots of meaningful details that accent the message being sent...it's brilliant. You're not a 'marketing drone' if you happen to like this painting, you probably just love really well done art.
People complaining about him being half-angel are ridiculous; it's no more cliche than him being a half-demon 'badass'. If you're stuck with a cliche ridden poorly written supernatural world than might as well take it to the max.
That's exactly what I thought.Dahbomb said:
Revenge on...I have no clue. Maybe Vergil got roughed up and Dante wants revenge for his bro. Would you be sad if Vergil was in a coma the entire game?.
Some of us like playing games and not watching them.domlolz said:
OMG no. DMC4 trashes about 99% games out there with its animation, texture quality, and overall engine performance.harSon said:
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Dahbomb said:
I never said it was good, original or made any sense. To be serious, with the whole angel thing they've pretty much thrown out any appearance of the game being Devil May Cry in anything but name. Mundus might not exist.
...shit I am not looking forward to that.Dibbz said:
I am, really.
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Toughts:
Pros:
New Dante looks better
Cons:
The frame rate is going to kill this game. You can already tell they slowed down the combat to try and not make it look like shit. Also, some of the animation is horrible, Dante kicks through that baddie when he pulls him closer. There also seems to be less enemies on the screen than in other DMC games.
Ninja theory can't tell a story to save their lives. Enslaved was one of the worst games I made myself sit through. They were more worried about telling a story than making a great game.
and if anyone actually thinks Enslaved or HS was better than DMC4, I have to question their sanity.
Pros:
New Dante looks better
Cons:
The frame rate is going to kill this game. You can already tell they slowed down the combat to try and not make it look like shit. Also, some of the animation is horrible, Dante kicks through that baddie when he pulls him closer. There also seems to be less enemies on the screen than in other DMC games.
Ninja theory can't tell a story to save their lives. Enslaved was one of the worst games I made myself sit through. They were more worried about telling a story than making a great game.
and if anyone actually thinks Enslaved or HS was better than DMC4, I have to question their sanity.
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and yet none of that matters in a game that is supposed to be about high speed action.
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You claimed DMC 4 and this game were similar in animation.harSon said:
edit: Why the hell is Amirox no longer a mod?
Something happened in one of the billion 3Ds threads and someone made a thread in OT about him not being a mod.ezekial45 said:
http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=441066
The guy banned me for defending DmC at E3. Where is your God now Amirox????!
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Dahbomb said:Why aren't people freaking out over the new art (in a good way)?
This is the single most bad ass pose this new Dante has put up.
I like the other art works, but this one just seems out of place.
jett said:
Why do people seem to think that Capcom is incapable of using facial motion capture, or that Ninja Theory somehow does it better. Resident Evil 5?
harSon said:
Let me see if I can describe what I meant by that. In the trailer, Dante does a lot of excess twirling, and spinning, where he doesn't actually hit the enemy. It reminded me a little of the animation of Heavenly Sword.
This right here is the main problem with this whole angel retcon.sleepykyo said:
Dante has no affiliation to the human world now and neither does Sparda. This puts the onus back on NT to explain why Sparda defected in the first place and what caused him to rebel against his own kind. That is a major plot point in the DMC universe/lore and this whole angel theory puts it all out of whack. Sparda took a stand for humans in the OG DMC series but now... why would he take a stand for humans?
Considering that every DMC game pretty much relates back to Sparda some way or the other (DMC's relation to Sparda is the only thing that keeps the DMC universe focused)... I am really curious as to how NT plans on explaining the backstory now.
Why would they masturbate over DMC4's artwork? If anything they would be furiously masturbating over epic 10 minute long DMC3SE combo videos like real DMC fans.