iidesuyo said:Or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRRvwO4vnvU
Popeye too was supporting the war efforts :lol
1999p? must be the splorgenborg version.m0dus said:Jeez, man, resize that bitch! :lol
Is that from the PS3 version?
(get it? 1080p? . . . No? screw you.)
Cicero said:This IS what happens during many European games, it is a common occurrence.
FoxHimself said:Dumbass.
well, as a matter of fact i have just arrived home from a local golf game which had to be cancelled because none of the players managed to hit the ball - holding the club with only one hand and all.FoxHimself said:Yes, this is quite common here, almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades. You sir, are 100% correct.
Dumbass.
cicero said:This IS what happens during many European games, it is a common occurrence.
m0dus said:
Bufbaf said:m0dus = Photoshop of the day
This Thread = wtfomg of the day
american/german-nazi-theories = biggest crap of the day
the day = biggest day of the day
I never stated or implied that I was an expert, one can come to the conclusion I did simply by reading the BBC or the other numerous news outlets that report the various racist and anti-semitic behavior that takes place each year. Talk about being uninformed.Bufbaf said:oh well, the Europe expert has entered the topic. IMO you deserve that ban as well, for stupid, uninformed posting or something =/
Nothing I said came anywhere near your distortion of my position, "almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades.". Your post is disingenuous at best.FoxHimself said:Yes, this is quite common here, almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades. You sir, are 100% correct.
Dumbass.
In Europe as a whole? It is common. If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?Propagandhim said:Don't spread misinformation. It isn't a common occurance.
:lol :lol :lolm0dus said:
cicero said:I never stated or implied that I was an expert, one can come to the conclusion I did simply by reading the BBC or the other numerous news outlets that report the various racist and anti-semitic behavior that takes place each year. Talk about being uninformed.
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
Nothing I said came anywhere near your distortion of my position, "almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades.". Your post is disingenuous at best.
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
In Europe as a whole? It is common. If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
Did you even bother to read the link I provided multiple times? If you didn't, that would make you intellectually lazy and make yours a disingenuous response. If you did, that means you ignored the obvious differences between ONE nazi riot and the numerous acts of racism by players/fans/coaches during this year alone that were listed on that site and instead chose to respond with a fallacious weak analogy.jamesinclair said:And wasnt there like a nazi riot in ohio last year?
OMG its a common occurance! If it werent, why was it in the news?
Why is this needed if behavior like this is a rare occurence?10 Point Plan
1. Issue a statement saying the club will not tolerate racism, spelling out the action it will take against those engaged in racist chanting. The statement should be printed in all match programmes and displayed permanently and prominently around the ground.
2. Make public address announcements condemning racist chanting at matches.
3. Make it a condition for season-ticket holders that they do not take part in racist abuse.
4. Take action to prevent the sale of racist literature inside and around the ground.
5. Take disciplinary action against players who engage in racial abuse.
6. Contact other clubs to make sure they understand the clubs policy on racism.
7. Encourage a common strategy between stewards and police for dealing with racist abuse.
8. Remove all racist graffiti from the ground as a matter of urgency.
9. Adopt an equal opportunities' policy in relation to employment and service provision.
10. Work with all other groups and agencies, such as the players union, supporters, schools, voluntary organisations, youth clubs, sponsors, local authorities, local businesses and police, to develop pro-active programmes and make progress to raise awareness of campaigning to eliminate racial abuse and discrimination.
Let me guess, FIFA are liars or merely just exaggerating and distorting a completely random and rare occurence of racism at football matches. Right?FIFA Fair Play
Revision of article 55
(FIFA.com) 29 Mar 2006
TO THE MEMBERS OF FIFA
Circular no. 1026
Zurich, 28 March 2006
GS/pmu-mjo
Revision of article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code: Non-discrimination
Dear Sir or Madam,
FIFA has always taken its role in combating discrimination of any kind very seriously. Despite this fact, there has been a surge in discriminating gestures and language at football matches in recent months. At its meeting on 16 and 17 March 2006, the FIFA Executive Committee therefore decided to take vigorous action against this deplorable trend and to impose harsher sanctions than those hitherto pronounced under article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code (FDC).
Article 55, paragraph 1 therefore now stipulates a match suspension of five matches at every level of football as well as a stadium ban and a minimum fine of CHF 20,000 for any act or expression of a discriminatory and/or contemptuous nature. If an official commits such an offence, the fine will be CHF 30,000.
Furthermore, an association or club will be fined CHF 30,000 if any of its supporters display discriminatory banners or behave in a discriminatory or contemptuous manner during a match. If spectators cannot be identified as supporters of one or the other association or club, the host association or club will be sanctioned accordingly.
The stadium ban on offending spectators remains at least two years (par. 3).
The new provision in par. 4 stipulates that if any player, official or spectator behaving in a discriminatory or contemptuous manner can be attributed to a certain team, three points will automatically be deducted from that team for the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will be deducted, and after a further offence, the team will be relegated. In the case of matches played without points being awarded, the team in question will be disqualified.
The confederations and associations are obliged to incorporate the provisions of this article in their disciplinary code and statutes and to enforce the sanctions stipulated. Any association fails to comply with this article will be excluded from international football for two years (par. 5).
The amended article 55 FDC takes effect immediately and the new, complete wording is enclosed for your information.
You are therefore kindly requested to take note of the amendments and to pass them on to your members. The amendments to article 55 FDC must also be enforced within the association.
Yours faithfully,
FEDERATION INTERNATIONALE
DE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION
Urs Linsi
General Secretary
cc: - FIFA Executive Committee
- Confederations
PepsimanVsJoe said:
And you ignore the obvious difference between racists and nazis. Yes, there is racism in European football. But racism is a problem that every single county in the world has to deal with -- including the US.cicero said:that means you ignored the obvious differences between ONE nazi riot and the numerous acts of racism by players/fans/coaches
As a gamer you should know how the press likes to make a mountain out of a molehill.If racism throughout European football is such a random occurence, then just what are the numerous reports of individual racism on the FARE site and throughout the world press?
cicero said:Did you even bother to read the link I provided multiple times? If you didn't, that would make you intellectually lazy and make yours a disingenuous response. If you did, that means you ignored the obvious differences between ONE nazi riot and the numerous acts of racism by players/fans/coaches during this year alone that were listed on that site and instead chose to respond with a fallacious weak analogy.
But maybe you would like to actually respond decently?
I ask again, "If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?"
If racism throughout European football is such a random occurence, then just what are the numerous reports of individual racism on the FARE site and throughout the world press?
If football racism isn't a common thing throughout Europe as a whole, then why has the EU Parliament seen it as such an issue that they needed to specifically address the racism problem during soccer matches and make it an official EU Resolution, all that WITH the complete backing of Europe's football governing body, Uefa?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/4485282.stm
http://www.farenet.org/page.asp?intPageID=16
UEFA Ten Point Plan
Why is this needed if behavior like this is a rare occurence?
http://www.fifa.com/en/fairplay/index/0,1255,116246,00.html?articleid=116246
Let me guess, FIFA are liars or merely just exaggerating and distorting a completely random and rare occurence of racism at football matches. Right?
MrSardonic said:your post = worst post in the thread
cicero said:In Europe as a whole? It is common. If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
toonface said:Racism in stadiums is a very rare thing in Europe, but one time is one to many, which is why FARE exists.
tahrikmili said:Very untrue, racism in stadiums in Europe has been one of the highest priority threats in UEFA's book and for good reason.
cicero said:Let me guess, FIFA are liars or merely just exaggerating and distorting a completely random and rare occurence of racism at football matches. Right?