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new Fifa 07 screen, game to be banned in germany?

Eric_S

Member
The line is thin between "lets make the supporters clap their hands in support" to "big ass nazi meeting" it seems. :p

/me points and laughs in the general direction of whoever let this through

That person's CV is going to look most interesting
 

lachesis

Member
LOL..

Fifa 2007: Escape To The Victory! :lol

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jarosh

Member
FoxHimself said:
Yes, this is quite common here, almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades. You sir, are 100% correct.

Dumbass.
well, as a matter of fact i have just arrived home from a local golf game which had to be cancelled because none of the players managed to hit the ball - holding the club with only one hand and all.
 

MrSardonic

The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
Bufbaf said:
m0dus = Photoshop of the day
This Thread = wtfomg of the day
american/german-nazi-theories = biggest crap of the day
the day = biggest day of the day

your post = worst post in the thread
 

cicero

Member
Bufbaf said:
oh well, the Europe expert has entered the topic. IMO you deserve that ban as well, for stupid, uninformed posting or something =/
I never stated or implied that I was an expert, one can come to the conclusion I did simply by reading the BBC or the other numerous news outlets that report the various racist and anti-semitic behavior that takes place each year. Talk about being uninformed.

http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp



FoxHimself said:
Yes, this is quite common here, almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades. You sir, are 100% correct.

Dumbass.
Nothing I said came anywhere near your distortion of my position, "almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades.". Your post is disingenuous at best.

http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp



Propagandhim said:
Don't spread misinformation. It isn't a common occurance.
In Europe as a whole? It is common. If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?

http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp



NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp
 
cicero said:
I never stated or implied that I was an expert, one can come to the conclusion I did simply by reading the BBC or the other numerous news outlets that report the various racist and anti-semitic behavior that takes place each year. Talk about being uninformed.

http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp




Nothing I said came anywhere near your distortion of my position, "almost every game here has at least ten Nazi parades.". Your post is disingenuous at best.

http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp




In Europe as a whole? It is common. If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?

http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp



NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
http://www.farenet.org/news_archives.asp


And wasnt there like a nazi riot in ohio last year?

OMG its a common occurance! If it werent, why was it in the news?
 

cicero

Member
jamesinclair said:
And wasnt there like a nazi riot in ohio last year?

OMG its a common occurance! If it werent, why was it in the news?
Did you even bother to read the link I provided multiple times? If you didn't, that would make you intellectually lazy and make yours a disingenuous response. If you did, that means you ignored the obvious differences between ONE nazi riot and the numerous acts of racism by players/fans/coaches during this year alone that were listed on that site and instead chose to respond with a fallacious weak analogy.

But maybe you would like to actually respond decently?

I ask again, "If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?"

If racism throughout European football is such a random occurence, then just what are the numerous reports of individual racism on the FARE site and throughout the world press?

If football racism isn't a common thing throughout Europe as a whole, then why has the EU Parliament seen it as such an issue that they needed to specifically address the racism problem during soccer matches and make it an official EU Resolution, all that WITH the complete backing of Europe's football governing body, Uefa?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/4485282.stm



http://www.farenet.org/page.asp?intPageID=16
UEFA Ten Point Plan
10 Point Plan

1. Issue a statement saying the club will not tolerate racism, spelling out the action it will take against those engaged in racist chanting. The statement should be printed in all match programmes and displayed permanently and prominently around the ground.

2. Make public address announcements condemning racist chanting at matches.

3. Make it a condition for season-ticket holders that they do not take part in racist abuse.

4. Take action to prevent the sale of racist literature inside and around the ground.

5. Take disciplinary action against players who engage in racial abuse.

6. Contact other clubs to make sure they understand the club’s policy on racism.

7. Encourage a common strategy between stewards and police for dealing with racist abuse.

8. Remove all racist graffiti from the ground as a matter of urgency.

9. Adopt an equal opportunities' policy in relation to employment and service provision.

10. Work with all other groups and agencies, such as the players union, supporters, schools, voluntary organisations, youth clubs, sponsors, local authorities, local businesses and police, to develop pro-active programmes and make progress to raise awareness of campaigning to eliminate racial abuse and discrimination.
Why is this needed if behavior like this is a rare occurence?



http://www.fifa.com/en/fairplay/index/0,1255,116246,00.html?articleid=116246
FIFA Fair Play
Revision of article 55
(FIFA.com) 29 Mar 2006

TO THE MEMBERS OF FIFA
Circular no. 1026

Zurich, 28 March 2006
GS/pmu-mjo

Revision of article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code: Non-discrimination

Dear Sir or Madam,

FIFA has always taken its role in combating discrimination of any kind very seriously. Despite this fact, there has been a surge in discriminating gestures and language at football matches in recent months. At its meeting on 16 and 17 March 2006, the FIFA Executive Committee therefore decided to take vigorous action against this deplorable trend and to impose harsher sanctions than those hitherto pronounced under article 55 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code (FDC).

Article 55, paragraph 1 therefore now stipulates a match suspension of five matches at every level of football as well as a stadium ban and a minimum fine of CHF 20,000 for any act or expression of a discriminatory and/or contemptuous nature. If an official commits such an offence, the fine will be CHF 30,000.

Furthermore, an association or club will be fined CHF 30,000 if any of its supporters display discriminatory banners or behave in a discriminatory or contemptuous manner during a match. If spectators cannot be identified as supporters of one or the other association or club, the host association or club will be sanctioned accordingly.

The stadium ban on offending spectators remains at least two years (par. 3).

The new provision in par. 4 stipulates that if any player, official or spectator behaving in a discriminatory or contemptuous manner can be attributed to a certain team, three points will automatically be deducted from that team for the first offence. In the case of a second offence, six points will be deducted, and after a further offence, the team will be relegated. In the case of matches played without points being awarded, the team in question will be disqualified.

The confederations and associations are obliged to incorporate the provisions of this article in their disciplinary code and statutes and to enforce the sanctions stipulated. Any association fails to comply with this article will be excluded from international football for two years (par. 5).

The amended article 55 FDC takes effect immediately and the new, complete wording is enclosed for your information.

You are therefore kindly requested to take note of the amendments and to pass them on to your members. The amendments to article 55 FDC must also be enforced within the association.
Yours faithfully,

FEDERATION INTERNATIONALE
DE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION

Urs Linsi
General Secretary

cc: - FIFA Executive Committee
- Confederations
Let me guess, FIFA are liars or merely just exaggerating and distorting a completely random and rare occurence of racism at football matches. Right?
 

untitled

Member
how can you ppl make fun about such a topic? there's nothin better than prejudices...
whatever; very awkwardly what EA is doin here.
 

Sloane

Banned
cicero said:
that means you ignored the obvious differences between ONE nazi riot and the numerous acts of racism by players/fans/coaches
And you ignore the obvious difference between racists and nazis. Yes, there is racism in European football. But racism is a problem that every single county in the world has to deal with -- including the US.

If racism throughout European football is such a random occurence, then just what are the numerous reports of individual racism on the FARE site and throughout the world press?
As a gamer you should know how the press likes to make a mountain out of a molehill.
 

Fjolle

Member
cicero said:
Did you even bother to read the link I provided multiple times? If you didn't, that would make you intellectually lazy and make yours a disingenuous response. If you did, that means you ignored the obvious differences between ONE nazi riot and the numerous acts of racism by players/fans/coaches during this year alone that were listed on that site and instead chose to respond with a fallacious weak analogy.

But maybe you would like to actually respond decently?

I ask again, "If it wasn't common then maybe you can explain just how and why Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) was started?"

If racism throughout European football is such a random occurence, then just what are the numerous reports of individual racism on the FARE site and throughout the world press?

If football racism isn't a common thing throughout Europe as a whole, then why has the EU Parliament seen it as such an issue that they needed to specifically address the racism problem during soccer matches and make it an official EU Resolution, all that WITH the complete backing of Europe's football governing body, Uefa?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/4485282.stm



http://www.farenet.org/page.asp?intPageID=16
UEFA Ten Point Plan

Why is this needed if behavior like this is a rare occurence?



http://www.fifa.com/en/fairplay/index/0,1255,116246,00.html?articleid=116246

Let me guess, FIFA are liars or merely just exaggerating and distorting a completely random and rare occurence of racism at football matches. Right?


Sure, and school shootings are a common occurrence in USA.
The fact is that the clubs don't want a minority of the fans to destroy the game, and therefor acts on the isolated incidents. If you look through the news on farenet, you will see that 95% of the news are about ppl who speak up against racism.. In fact there have only been 4 incidents this season i hundreds of games.
 
toonface said:
Racism in stadiums is a very rare thing in Europe, but one time is one to many, which is why FARE exists.

Very untrue, racism in stadiums in Europe has been one of the highest priority threats in UEFA's book and for good reason.
 

toonface

Member
tahrikmili said:
Very untrue, racism in stadiums in Europe has been one of the highest priority threats in UEFA's book and for good reason.

Hmm, no. It may be UEFA's highest but that does not mean it's a common thing. As a football fan you get to hear whenever things like this happen. And even though I may not follow every league in Europe it is a rare thing in the Scandinavian leagues, Premier League, Italian, Spanish, Dutch and German leagues (not to say it never happens, just downplaying the common practice nonsense).

We've had more murders here in Sweden than racism in the stadiums these last couple of years, does that mean it's common with people murdering each other here?
 
cicero said:
Let me guess, FIFA are liars or merely just exaggerating and distorting a completely random and rare occurence of racism at football matches. Right?

You are crazy, FIFA are acting upon something that happens in football that they want to get rid of.

I can't believe that someone can spin this thing so far out to prove that a high percentage of the matches across Europe have racist chanting, goose stepping and other displays of nazi affiliation.

I've been to a lot of live matches across Britain and I've only heard ignorant racist chants once or twice, in Glasgow and they were prodestant/catholic name callings.
 

Roi

Member
Is that thanks to the spyware program that's in battlefield ? German players will see this, players from England will see burning Indian people?
 
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