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Just wait ... a couple more of Facebooks famously awful UI redesigns and we'll see the exodus.

So much for not being evil...

Google's giving you free everything and you bitch about having to sign up to a service that you'll never use if you don't want to?

Waa waa.
 
I don't know why people are say it's tanking. I use it daily and have maybe 2 or 3 people that I know in real life who use the site regularly.

The rest is either GAF or random people I have circled. I love checking the stream looking at people's photography, blogs, news, etc. The gifs are entertaining as well.

Facebook really got bogged down by my friends who are looking for attention. All I ever see on facebook anymore is people complaining about how sick they are or how all of a sudden they're a strong person and going to make it no matter what. fordwhogivesashit.gif

I feel like the dumb ass people have migrated from myspace to facebook to twitter. G+ is a community of mostly nerds who at least dnt TyPe LkE Dis. It's refreshing to be able to post about topics and start conversations with people across the world who don't act like dumb asses for the most part. The day G+ succeeds is the day I'll probably stop using it.
 
Why did they not make it invite only (at first) as they did with gmail? Im not hesitant to say that this was the main reason gmail got popular so fast. Facebook did something similar when they first rolled it out.

Er-they did? And that's why it's failing.

Google+ got announced:

Everyone: OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGGOTTAGETIN
Google: Invite only
Everyone: IgnYEAH/Yawn.gif
 
Just wait ... a couple more of Facebooks famously awful UI redesigns and we'll see the exodus.

Keep dreaming.

People always piss and moan about them for about a week then carry on as normal.

Google+ has some nice features but it was never going to displace Facebook.
 
Google's giving you free everything and you bitch about having to sign up to a service that you'll never use if you don't want to?

Waa waa.

Google + has special requirements over sign-ups, like requiring you to use your real name (which some people, shocking enough, don't always like to do online), and if you're found in violation of them, they suspend ALL of your Google services, including your mail and such.


Did this get answered...?

You could delay it, but eventually they refused to let you log in unless you linked your Youtube account to a Google account.
 
I stopped using it about a day after I got invited, nobody I know uses it, I even added a whole bunch of Gaffers and from checking someone posts something once every 10 days.

Doesn't really offer anything over Facebook.
 
Are some of you crazy? Just because you're not using it doesn't mean it's not being used.

My Google+ stream is busier than it has ever been.
 
google+ has got 90 million members in 6 months

60% of members engaged daily, 80% weekly

its not bombing, they prob want to kick things into overdrive

Actually, 60% of those users are engaged with Google products daily, and 80% are engaged with Google products weekly. Google refuses to released engagement numbers for Google + as a standalone product.
 
Google+ needs to match Facebook in features.

And, for fuck's sake, Google needs to integrate Hangout chat, Gchat, and anything else I'm forgetting about into a single chat platform, and then stick it into Android on a level as deep as Apple's iMessage platform (i.e. recognizing cell phone numbers and substituting Gchat for SMS).
 
Pretty evil.



That said, I adore G+. I post on it regularly, have a few hundred "friends" in circles, about two dozen who post regularly as well. Met some pretty great people there.

Of course, it's mostly people from another, larger forum, but I'm down with more GAFfers, definitely.


Google+ needs to match Facebook in features.

And, for fuck's sake, Google needs to integrate Hangout chat, Gchat, and anything else I'm forgetting about into a single chat platform, and then stick it into Android on a level as deep as Apple's iMessage platform (i.e. recognizing cell phone numbers and substituting Gchat for SMS).

THey just need to integrate Gmail and G+ anyway, especially for messenger. Having two pings from the same person because I'm in Gmail and Google+ is annoying.
 
Google+ needs to match Facebook in features.

And, for fuck's sake, Google needs to integrate Hangout chat, Gchat, and anything else I'm forgetting about into a single chat platform, and then stick it into Android on a level as deep as Apple's iMessage platform (i.e. recognizing cell phone numbers and substituting Gchat for SMS).

I remember reading something from someone working on the G+ team stating that was their end goal, just that it was a bit more complicated than simply throwing all the code into one project :P
 
People posting "lol" and "lulz" as the sum content of their posts always look like retards.

90m might not sound like much, but its a young service adding 600k+ users a day, at that kind of pace it could feasibly challenge Twitter this year or soon thereafter...

I don't see anything wrong with Google making it so there's only one account across all of their services btw. Just because it takes the necessary information to start a G+ profile doesn't mean that people will use it or have to use it.
 
Er-they did? And that's why it's failing.

Google+ got announced:

Everyone: OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGGOTTAGETIN
Google: Invite only
Everyone: IgnYEAH/Yawn.gif

Yea I forgot about that. I just remembered there was a thread about the invites here.
 
I know four people with G+ accounts and exactly none of them are using it in any capacity. Two of them used it in some capacity (Huddle, now Messenger, or whatever the fuck it's called), but it's only accessible via mobile phone apps, making it useless.

So in my particular case, G+ sucks the big one. There's nothing compelling about it that would make me switch over to it, especially when you can filter the shit out of Facebook to your liking.
 
Just wait ... a couple more of Facebooks famously awful UI redesigns and we'll see the exodus.

The fact that the "Timeline" design is rolling out and people haven't left Facebook yet tells me there will be no redesign that drives everyone out

I only use G+ for hangouts
 
Google+ needs to match Facebook in features.

And, for fuck's sake, Google needs to integrate Hangout chat, Gchat, and anything else I'm forgetting about into a single chat platform, and then stick it into Android on a level as deep as Apple's iMessage platform (i.e. recognizing cell phone numbers and substituting Gchat for SMS).

This! But it's coming, don't fret.
In the end this comes at a cost, which is "One Google account, to rule them all!". Thus why Gmail is now so integrated with Google+.
 
Google+ is a good diea, but kind of hard to go up against Facebook.

People are used to Facebook, people have all their friends on Facebook, people don't have any real issues with Facebook. So why would people want to switch? All the commercials in the world aren't going to make people switch.
 
Hasn't google always automatically created a google profile for you when you sign up for gmail or any of their services, even before G+ was a thing? It's just that google profiles are g+ profiles now.
 
You could delay it, but eventually they refused to let you log in unless you linked your Youtube account to a Google account.

Nononono. You misunderstand.

I want to remove my Gmail account from their Youtube service. They tied ALL Gmail accounts to a youtube account under your e-mail address. You can't make/upload videos. But they still hold an account of your video history, I find it to be truly invading of my willingness to sign-up for their services and would love to remove my e-mail from a Youtube "account."
 
You could delay it, but eventually they refused to let you log in unless you linked your Youtube account to a Google account.

Man that was annoying. I linked mine to a hotmail account, though. I NEVER intended to link my Youtube account with my legit Gmail account. I just had a sneaking suspicion that it would be a bad idea.
 
Nononono. You misunderstand.

I want to remove my Gmail account from their Youtube service. They tied ALL Gmail accounts to a youtube account under your e-mail address. You can't make/upload videos. But they still hold an account of your video history, I find it to be truly invading of my willingness to sign-up for their services and would love to remove my e-mail from a Youtube "account."

Why can't you upload videos if you have a gmail/google account?

If you want to look at videos and not have it go on your video history, just log out of youtube when you go to the site and start viewing these videos that you don't want on your history.
 
Google+ is a good diea, but kind of hard to go up against Facebook.

People are used to Facebook, people have all their friends on Facebook, people don't have any real issues with Facebook. So why would people want to switch? All the commercials in the world aren't going to make people switch.

Yeah, this. Facebook has become a cultural icon, and G+ isn't showing signs of getting anywhere near that. New features will only draw in people who are already G+'s bread and butter: tech-savvy types and academics. Google knows this, hence this thread's news.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with the automatic G+ account. It's just like another Google app. A G+ account is completely empty until you decide to do something with it, just like the old Google/Yahoo Profiles, so it's not like it's leaving you with your pants down.
 
This reminds me of the time I bought No More Heroes for the Wii a few years ago. It was bundled with that god awful Red Steel Wii game that is impossible to play and enjoy, but I only wanted No More Heroes.

I went up to the cashier with the bundle and asked: "Hey, I would like to buy this...but is there any way you could just give me No More Heroes? Like, could you cut it in half and leave Red Steel here?"

The cashier laughed at me and said no, so I ended up buying the bundle and I've only touched Red Steel once to see how bad it was.

Poor new GMail users. Google+ is so bad, and yet I still get added by random people from time to time who I'm guessing are Gaffers.
 
Nononono. You misunderstand.

I want to remove my Gmail account from their Youtube service. They tied ALL Gmail accounts to a youtube account under your e-mail address. You can't make/upload videos. But they still hold an account of your video history, I find it to be truly invading of my willingness to sign-up for their services and would love to remove my e-mail from a Youtube "account."

That's only to give you recommended videos and such, and you can clear viewing history from within youtube easily. They don't keep a record of your searches or anything (although your browser might). I believe you can make / upload videos with any Google account btw...
 
Why can't you upload videos if you have a gmail/google account?

Because it isn't a "legit" Youtube account, apparently, but holding my video information is?

If you want to look at videos and not have it go on your video history, just log out of youtube when you go to the site and start viewing these videos that you don't want on your history.

Except I don't want to do that. Before this dumbass move, I could stay logged into Gmail and view youtube anonymously with no video information. Now? My Gmail "automatically logs me into Youtube" as a "fake" account and holds my video information. I find that to be an "invasion of privacy" so to speak.
 
I hate the little +1 buttons all over the search results. I stay logged out of my Google account pretty much all the time because of those.
 
google+ has got 90 million members in 6 months

60% of members engaged daily, 80% weekly

its not bombing, they prob want to kick things into overdrive

it's only bombing in perception, as opposed to the juggernaught that is facebook.

Google+ isn't bad, it's just not facebook.

if they just keep it there....
 
I hate the little +1 buttons all over the search results. I stay logged out of my Google account pretty much all the time because of those.

I'll tell you straight up - I'm terrified of the time I accidentally hit the +1 button while I'm sampling a buffet on youporn. It'll ruin me.
 
Because it isn't a "legit" Youtube account, apparently, but holding my video information is?



Except I don't want to do that. Before this dumbass move, I could stay logged into Gmail and view youtube anonymously with no video information. Now? My Gmail "automatically logs me into Youtube" as a "fake" account and holds my video information. I find that to be an "invasion of privacy" so to speak.

I am having a hard time understanding your issue. You are paranoid about people finding your viewing history, but you don't want to simply log out of YT when you get on the site so you can view those videos with no record. You are so worried about your viewing history but logging out is too much of problem?
 
Just wait ... a couple more of Facebooks famously awful UI redesigns and we'll see the exodus.



Google's giving you free everything and you bitch about having to sign up to a service that you'll never use if you don't want to?

Waa waa.

My time and personal data is not free.
 
Sounds about as annoying as how you now need a facebook account to get spotify. UGH.

Yes. YES. I was all ready to ditch FaceBook until shutting it down meant I lost all my Spotify friends too. Fuckers.

Well I actually love G+. To me it pulls together the best of Twitter and Facebook in a very clean UI. Sure it doesn't have the hoards there, but I have a few good friends on there, interesting people and websites to follow like I do on Twitter. The photo albums, chat and videochat are MUCH better than FB. I use it every day, and just before bed check back on my Facebook:

Code:
-Here's my baby, look at my baby, I am my baby

-Photos of a night out that look indistinguishable from other nights out

-I am eating a sandwich. (Jill Likes this)

-Someone you never talk to ULTIMATE PILEDRIVED you, click here to ULTIMATE PILEDRIVE them back!

I don't get any of this shit on G+. Those who have been away or haven't been on since the first month, come back and get engaged! Join Us.
 
I'll tell you straight up - I'm terrified of the time I accidentally hit the +1 button while I'm sampling a buffet on youporn. It'll ruin me.

Since we're being straight up, I was reading up in the KKK in reaction to that stupid thread about them last night. I clicked the +1 next to the wiki link in the search results. Immediately clicked again to undo and logged out of my Google account. I'll just stick to Gmail on my phone from now on.
 
I'll tell you straight up - I'm terrified of the time I accidentally hit the +1 button while I'm sampling a buffet on youporn. It'll ruin me.

There is this little browser called Chrome that is all sorts of AWESOME! You should be browsing these type of sites in "incognito" mode and as a different "USER" - Chrome allows you to do this.
 
I am having a hard time understanding your issue. You are paranoid about people finding your viewing history, but you don't want to simply log out of YT when you get on the site so you can view those videos with no record. You are so worried about your viewing history but logging out is too much of problem?

This is amazing. I/We don't want the accounts linked! There's no reason for them to be. I want my Gmail account to be for my email, and I don't want to be logged when viewing Youtube videos... That's it!
 
There is this little browser called Chrome that is all sorts of AWESOME! You should be browsing these type of sites in "incognito" mode and as a different "USER" - Chrome allows you to do this.

Crazy talk, Opera user~

That being said, I...I should put forth some extra effort and do that sort of thing, but... I guess I'm lazy...
 
I'll tell you straight up - I'm terrified of the time I accidentally hit the +1 button while I'm sampling a buffet on youporn. It'll ruin me.
There is this little browser called Chrome that is all sorts of AWESOME! You should be browsing these type of sites in "incognito" mode and as a different "USER" - Chrome allows you to do this.
Yeah, man. Firefox has a Private Browsing mode that I use just for that sort of situation.

IE has it too, it's called InPrivate Browsing, I believe.
 
Except I don't want to do that. Before this dumbass move, I could stay logged into Gmail and view youtube anonymously with no video information. Now? My Gmail "automatically logs me into Youtube" as a "fake" account and holds my video information. I find that to be an "invasion of privacy" so to speak.

I think you can manually configure how cookies are handled in your browser to block Youtube.com from saving or reading cookies. It may be more complicated than that, though.
 
This is amazing. I/We don't want the accounts linked! There's no reason for them to be. I want my Gmail account to be for my email, and I don't want to be logged when viewing Youtube videos... That's it!

Too bad?

I mean...there's nothing you can do aside from logging out, or opening a new private/incognito window.
 
I logged into G+ for the first time seeing this thread.

300+ circled. A couple page downs and I'm seeing "Happy New Year" posts on the main page. Everything above it is Tumblr-esque meme pics, or "Cool stuff" youtube posts or random pics of food

Yeah, i think it's dead.

It would actually be better if Google integrated it more deeply into gmail or other sites. If I could log on and see my gmail, g+, search and search options, chat, and google doc options on one page, i'd probably be more motivated to use all of those as often as I check my GMail.
 
Yes. YES. I was all ready to ditch FaceBook until shutting it down meant I lost all my Spotify friends too. Fuckers.

Well I actually love G+. To me it pulls together the best of Twitter and Facebook in a very clean UI. Sure it doesn't have the hoards there, but I have a few good friends on there, interesting people and websites to follow like I do on Twitter. The photo albums, chat and videochat are MUCH better than FB. I use it every day, and just before bed check back on my Facebook:

Code:
-Here's my baby, look at my baby, I am my baby

-Photos of a night out that look indistinguishable from other nights out

-I am eating a sandwich. (Jill Likes this)

-Someone you never talk to ULTIMATE PILEDRIVED you, click here to ULTIMATE PILEDRIVE them back!

I don't get any of this shit on G+. Those who have been away or haven't been on since the first month, come back and get engaged! Join Us.

I still get this on G+ except now I don't get it from people I knew from school. Now I get it from tech nerds and Google employees.
 
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