I agree with him. If done well, a Free To Play model would work really well with a fighting game. Whether Microsoft will pull it off with Killer Instinct is currently up in the air, though, because we don't know how much characters will cost. Until Microsoft reveals this information, outright condemning this change in monetisation methods seems dumb to me.
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New Killer Instinct Is Episodic and Digital Only?
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I agree with him. If done well, a Free To Play model would work really well with a fighting game. Whether Microsoft will pull it off with Killer Instinct is currently up in the air, though, because we don't know how much characters will cost. Until Microsoft reveals this information, outright condemning this change in monetisation methods seems dumb to me.
Heart Attack
Member
are you forgetting about Xbox Live Fees, and the DMR online shit? did they brainwash you at E3?
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Quantum break? Spark? Sunset overdrive? Forza?
DICKS AHOY
Banned
what was the point of even buying this studio at this point jesus fucking christ
Not even just Nintendo but I want anyone to buy all those IP's off Microsoft. Regardless of your opinion of their output during the Nintendo years, I still can't believe how completely and utterly they have fucked up Rare.
Not even just Nintendo but I want anyone to buy all those IP's off Microsoft. Regardless of your opinion of their output during the Nintendo years, I still can't believe how completely and utterly they have fucked up Rare.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Yea, the XBL fees didn't occur to me. However, I played the game and there's nothing stopping that shit from being in my hands. I was excited but skeptical, then I played it.
It would be good if there weren't other F2P games with better models. Like... you know... a certain game called DOTA2 that has every single character unlocked for everyone. Damn, even LoL has a periodic rotation for free characters, so you're not forced to play the same guy over and over again until you pay. If it's really just 1 character at launch, the game will get old very fast, especially for casual gamers. People like to try different characters and see different moves, they don't start with the idea of becoming godlike with one specific character.
It's behind a paywall and having only one character doesn't let people explore different playstyles in the game. The more successful F2P games usually give players access to multiple characters/units from the start so the players can experiment. Fighting games are a bit different but having just one character available in a genre where character roles are very diverse seems strange.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Quantum Break we only saw an out of context in-engine cutscene and Sunset Overdrive was similarly just a quick trailer (not that I disliked it mind you).
I'll give you the other two though, while simple looking for a creation-game in comparison to LBP I would've loved something like Spark ten years ago.
Heart Attack
Member
You're also gonna have to pay for Xbox Live. Not really F2P.
I don't really see the big deal. Killer Instinct was never going to be a serious tournament fighter anyway. IMO they'd be better off just trying to make it fun.
Also, aren't Tekken and DoA doing basically the same thing?
They could just let you try out characters like in LoL.
Chance Hale
Member
Dude bro is the new pretentious.
DOA starts with four free characters. Tekken starts with eight free characters.
What kind of mess
Ok, I was over exaggerating a little, but it was still a hell of a lot of dudebro.
Heart Attack
Member
and you are given the option to buy both of those games at retail.
They could easily let you try out characters for a limited time, or give out more free characters down the line.
PetriP-TNT
Member
RIP Rare
That does seem a bit odd yeah, which makes me think they might have a system where you can try out a character for a limited time. Seems like a smarter way to handle it.
GoofsterStud
Member
Technically Rare has nothing to do with this game.
Hours Left
Member
This sudden surge of F2P fighters is not really comforting.
call_kotaku
Member
And just about every game console let you trade and sell used games, and didn't require online authentication. Just sayin'
Because you ultimately don't know who your favorite character will be until AFTER you've paid for it especially when Killer Instinct has been out in the cold for over 10 years (?)
Yeah if you luck out on Jago, then props to you.
Sure I loved Orchid when I played the original, and i thought Cinder was the right man for the win button, but I have no idea how much they would have fiddled with their movesets and overall game balance, if there is one broken character in the game the whole model goes to shit.
And this applies to DOA and Tekken to, although the blow is softened to a degree because there is a ton more familiarity and more previous games for reference points.
Heart Attack
Member
It's Microsoft......
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Could be an interesting way to do it. Should at least come with the 3 characters from the reveal though instead of just 1.
RawkHawk2010
Member
What? The "just pay for what you want" nature of the game not only means there's probably no kind of story or lore or anything beyond barebones fighting, but playing online is going to involve 99% of players being the exact same dude.
Awful awful awful awful awful. It's a sad day when Rare isn't allowed to work on their IPs anymore for fear they might kill them, but then MS turns around and gives it to some dudes who go on to murder it worse than Rare ever could.
Nah, F2P can work really well with fighting games, it just depends on the business model. Of course if you're more into the story/single player part of FG, F2P won't do anything for you.
KillerTravis
Banned
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Well, that's the point...
They won't even let them work on their own classic IPs anymore.
rain elbows
Member
Exactly, 1 character? Wow.
PSA: Killer Instincts is being codeveloped by Double Helix. Makers of G.I.Joe Rise of Cobra, Green Lantern, & Battleship movie games. Yeaaa.
via Angry Joe Twitter
Unexpected to say the least, but as long as there's no price gouging involved, it's not the end of the world.
If the cost of buying all the characters adds up to what the game would have cost to buy anyway (or less), then what difference does it make?
Technically not all that different to a demo, in the context of fighting games anyway.
If the cost of buying all the characters adds up to what the game would have cost to buy anyway (or less), then what difference does it make?
Technically not all that different to a demo, in the context of fighting games anyway.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Hmm, if there was a 'full' offer at normal retail price point, that would be better?
Heart Attack
Member
obviously. what's the point of making a fighting game without a community.
Tom Hatherford
Banned
You do know Killer Instinct was at one point bigger than Mortal Kombat. I dont see why it wouldnt have as much as a chance of being a serious tournament fighter than any other game. Fighters arent exactly the most mainstream genre
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
Oh wow. That was my favourite part of the MS conference. Fuck this episodic rubbish. Completely disinterested now. MS really doesn't want me as a consumer this generation. I'm bewildered.
Always-honest
Banned
Dear fuck....
i love killer instinct but this is a fucking joke.
you don't give me an incomplete game that isn't even 1/10th of what its full package is and expect me to be grateful because i don't have to pay to try it...
i would rather pay full retail price for the full game anytime of the week.
you don't give me an incomplete game that isn't even 1/10th of what its full package is and expect me to be grateful because i don't have to pay to try it...
i would rather pay full retail price for the full game anytime of the week.
As opposed to paying full price and still not knowing if a character is broken or who your favourite will be?
Do some of you think before spewing hate simply for the sake of it?