Meccanical
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New Lightning Returns "13 Days" SAN DIEGO trailer
- Thread starter Perfo
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Relaxed Muscle
Member
Every light cast a shadow, the more bright it is the more darker the shadows it cast are. Basically Lightning is incredible powerful but her power also brings the most dangerous enemies...
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Yeah, it dosn't make sense.
devious.one
Member
Nice, I really should bookmark that site. They delivered on GTA and MGS too.
It is by now obvious that this game doesn't have the budget of the previous games, so they're focusing all their resources on Lightning. The only person who tried to deny this was Perfo.
Granted, you have to ask if it is right of them to place costume priority over environments or even give Lightning so many costumes but fail to redesign the other characters barring Snow, who has apparently become the villain.
If nothing else, maybe the battle system will be good.
demosthenes
Member
Everything about this game looks atrocious. What are people excited for?
But that's not true, lights don't cast shadows, objects/people/etc do. It's not even semantics, it's literally wrong.
As Meccanical pointed out it should be: "The closer you are to the light...the greater your shadow becomes"
as it is YOU who would cast the shadow, not the light.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Low budget Kusoge. That's what it is. IMO.
Meccanical
Member
Toriyama has invented Shadow Lights.
Lights that cast darkness, thus defeating the very purpose of lights and making you wonder if they should even be called lights in the first place but everyone is too lazy to change it and now it has stuck.
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Lights that cast darkness, thus defeating the very purpose of lights and making you wonder if they should even be called lights in the first place but everyone is too lazy to change it and now it has stuck.
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Master Nairb
Member
I still want to play 13-2 but is it worth it. I have zero recollection of the story from 13.
devious.one
Member
There was a topic yesterday with a bunch of info in it, covered quite a bit.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=625296&highlight=
Meccanical
Member
Yeah its alright I guess.
FFXIII-2 starts with the ending of FFXIII then you see what happens 'next' and it's completely unrelated to FFXIII, it's basically a convoluted retcon. You can play 13-2 without remembering anything about 13, because it doesn't appear the team remembered what happened in 13 or what it was about either.
Meccanical
Member
Hope you didn't read the datalog because all the info is pointless.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Quick question: during interviews, do Toriyama and Kitase seem nervous?
The two times I've seen them for this game they seemed tired and distant.
You'll need 13 and 13-2 save files for that but I think they confirmed you'll be able to use the legacy skins in one of the interviews.
On the trailer:
Apparently even after consumed by the chaos, the world still lived just fine for 500 years, bringing the date to 1000 AF I guess?
Funny how Lightning keeps serving all these random gods even after Etro has pretty much screwed her over (note that I haven't completed Requiem of the Goddess yet).
I don't want to beat Noel up. Noel is a cool guy.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm kinda ok with that, some games show to much in the trailers.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Must be because of negative criticism...err....western thinking.
Kitase should of have the guts to not greenlight Toriyama's projects. They may net short term profit but in the long term they will be hurting.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I know, I was trying to explain the reasoning behind the quote.
The right way don't convey what they try to say...it seems more of a poor writing than rather some poor translation
I guess greenlighting this was the only way to have another FF console game in less that 4-5 years.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
I mean, I understand why thing are the way they are. What I'm having difficulty with is how they think that presenting a game this late into the console generation in this condition is acceptable on any level. Not only that, but to release it in that state? I mean, now its too late to extend the dev period since they claim to be 90% finished and are probably near Gold. But just the fact that SE signed off on this? I don't care if it is a blatant cash in, this is the star franchise this game is linked to. At least act like you care.
Hasn't been in years, FF is pretty much Sonic status now.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
But as with Sonic and Sega, FF is all SE has left in terms of heavy hitters. Hence "star franchise".
APZonerunner
Member
I'll counter this, though, and say -- they've seemed like that every time I've met them from 2006 through til now. The tired/disinterestedness hasn't in my experience been exclusive to LR, but just how the pair have always been. The last time I saw them, though, 3 weeks ago, they seemed happier and more jovial than I've ever seen them, perhaps because they're in the home stretch.
DangerStepp
Member
When compared to others, is this the 'worst' generation when it comes to the Final Fantasy series?
Speaking in terms of popularity, quality of content, the Versus debacle, etc.
Speaking in terms of popularity, quality of content, the Versus debacle, etc.
Yes. There's no doubt about that.
devious.one
Member
It'll be alright man, 90% of the previews I've read of journalist playing the game at E3 said it played really good and their looking forward to more of it. Just have to realize it's not going to have that amazing visual appeal you are looking for.
It's just like Xenoblade, despite being on the Wii, that game was good enough you could see past the way the Wii made it look. Hopefully this game will play good enough you'll be able to see past the way SE made it look.
Although after DLing the trailer from gamesyde, I don't think it looks that bad visually
Yes.
Even if you don't count 13 as a problem, 14's initial launch is without a doubt the biggest debacle in FF history.
Meccanical
Member
can it even be argued?
NES: I-III
SNES:IV-VI
PSX: VII-IX
PS2 X-XII
Even the PS2 games have ardent fans. XII fans think its the best in the series. X fans think its one of the better installments. I don't see how anyone could possibly argue that this wasn't FF's worst gen.
DangerStepp
Member
I knew I wasn't offering too controversial an opion here because common sense tells me that the 8 and 16bit era were the glory days, the PS1 era gave us VII and VIII (nostalgia be damned, I remember loving them and thus they're still good to me), and PS2 era gave us X and XII. The latter a little controversial but at least it was trying new things.
I haven't touched a FF game this gen nor have I felt inclined to. Either way, it's a bummer to see the series go through what it has this generation, what with the underwhelming performance of XIII, long dev times, fans getting burned on Versus, and overall negative vibe I get when I read these kinds of threads.
Precisely my thoughts.
But I'm sure there's someone out there...
Every thread about Final Fantasy XIII and its sequels just proves this more and more right. Haters gonna hate.
I had more fun with XIII and XIII-2 than I had with X and XII. I guess its subjective, unless you are analysing it from a sales/popularity perspective.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
An old artwork of Novus Partus revealed a Mountain Region in the upper left corner of the worldmap
so definitely, yes.a secret-boss
Banned
just realize I've never finished an FF game this generation of console
What's really weird to me is that the last trailer had Lightning reference the actual (well you know what I mean) God. Not sure how we went from made up gods and goddesses to God himself.
I got a friend who has beaten every single FF, but could not force his way through XIII, it's quite understandable.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
If they keep showing something new every two weeks for every event we don't even need to play the game anymore. They're plan 'till now has been to show one major news every one major event. So you have to wait for TGS next.
S-E has never been so open about the dev. of one of their games, yet you complain about the lack of footage when... every week we get something new, lol.
You can't expect decent assets from a game that's only being made because they had a ton of left over assets from FFXIII. Probably just shoving those in there anyway the can.
So damn sad how low FF has reached. Maybe FF15 will bring it back.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
They're probably forced afterall in producing these titles to cover XIV and XV's messes. Again, I keep saying Toriyama and Kitase are keeping S-E relevant when the others burn its cash.
The true Saviours.
a secret-boss
Banned
You have completely lost it.
There is no snowy area on that artwork, just clouds.An old artwork of Novus Partus revealed a Mountain Region in the upper left corner of the worldmap
devious.one
Member
oh well i guess I'll stick with playing FFIX
It really is a hate it or love it thing, give it a try if you can find it in a bargain bin. I think a poster awhile back made a thread asking about the game and ended up enjoying it.
Probably a quirk of translation.
Japanese does not particularly differentiate between a heaten-type deity and the singular God (although if the original speech featured 神様 as opposed to just 神 it's likely to be the latter).