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New NBC Show: Revolution - Lost meets Jericho - From Eric Kripke and JJ Abrams

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The show's biggest problem for me is I keep forgetting what the characters are actually doing. I lost track of Neville's plot a long time ago.

You want to really be confused, try watching Revenge. I don't think anyone knows wtf is going on in that show.

As for this show... the general idea is each of the main characters are fighting the Patriots. The exception being Neville who seems to want to kill Monroe in order to free his wife from the Patriots, but in all honesty his wife is probably dead/on the Patriots' side and ultimately Neville just wants to kill the Patriots as well. Aaron (and Priscilla, I guess) is essentially fighting the nanites or some shit but he's losing because he keeps falling for illusions.
 
Bye Jason. You were boring and I never liked you. I will admit though that the final scene was well acted. Spiradakos be steppin her cryface up.

Now they need to get rid of Rachel (I hate what they've done with her this season), Gene and Aaron.
 
And on the same night I watch Jason die on Revolution, he shows up in my Veronica Mars rewatch (s01e12).

Leave me in peace, J.D. Pardo.
 
No! Not Jason!

He was the only reason I watched this show!

Now let's off Scruffy Monroeson and Aaron The Stupid and we're cool.
 
Bye Jason. You were boring and I never liked you. I will admit though that the final scene was well acted. Spiradakos be steppin her cryface up.

Now they need to get rid of Rachel (I hate what they've done with her this season), Gene and Aaron.

The only characters I don't think they'd ever kill are Aaron and Monroe.
 
What? Parks and Rec was great from the start...

Not sure if serious but Season 1 got a lot of flak. Season 2 was when the show sky rocketed.

How revolutionary of them to kill Charlie's love interest who is at odds with his powerhungry father that just wants to rule the USA with his son a couple of weeks after they introduce a second Charlie love interest who is at odds with his powerhungry father that just wants to rule the USA with his son. Good that they did it though, Jason lost his usefulness in the middle of season 1.


What is good about season 2 aside from Monroe? The retcon at the start of the season, the boring, repetitive Neville plot, the bits with Rachel and Miles will they or won't they, nanomachines? Season 1 was so cheesy which was great. I think the initial comparisons with Jericho have made me really cynical about the show once it got renewed for a full season 2.

Serious? Holy shit you are serious you think Season 1 was better. I'm actually freaking out that you have that opinion.

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Season 1 was so bad. Charlie was soooooooo bad. In Season 2 Charlie is someone I want to root for she's got good reasons for acting the way she does. Huge step up.

Munroe is also dramatically more interesting in every way but you already touched on that so I won't.

The Patriots are the most interesting villains out of every show I'm watching right now (which is 10+). The idea of "America" coming back but being as they are was a perfect choice.

Neville has a real purpose other than traveling around America and we've gotten to see him do what he does best.

The general aesthetic of the show objectively better. It actually looks a lot more like a place without power.

The idea of "retconning" the decision...first of all it wasn't a retcon. What happened happened the bombs were dropped and they had to turn the power back off. It created a nice event in the fiction ("the surge") and most importantly it preserved the entire idea of the whole show. If they had kept the power on I probably would have dropped this show entirely because that isn't what I was told I'd be watching in the first place.

Dropping the bombs was actually an interesting play in terms of writing because there is some risk. They can't even use those parts of America.

We got better villains like Truman, Dr. Calvin Horn (the creepy dude who got lit on fire), and the leader of that war clan. The war clan scenario was interesting in itself.

We even got more interesting locations like New Vegas.

The choreography is better and the show is much more brutal. Despite being on at the time it is they don't really hold back on the shows brutality.

And in closing we got no Danny. The best part of season 2.
 
While the season was improved at its beginning, it had dipped quite far. I think it started when Monroe reunited with his son and pledging to bring back the Republic, and was at it's nadir with the fixing-the-nano-code episode.
 
Serious? Holy shit you are serious you think Season 1 was better. I'm actually freaking out that you have that opinion.
Season 1 was a cheesy show with clear objectives and internal logic. Season 2 is bad in a non-cheesy way with a story that makes no sense, with stories that change all the time. It is just season 2 and they're already repeating plots and losing focus.

Season 1 was so bad. Charlie was soooooooo bad. In Season 2 Charlie is someone I want to root for she's got good reasons for acting the way she does. Huge step up.
They reduced her role, which is the only reason she seems better.

The Patriots are the most interesting villains out of every show I'm watching right now (which is 10+). The idea of "America" coming back but being as they are was a perfect choice.
There is nothing interesting about what they're doing. And the 'US government' coming back bad is not even that original. See Jericho, which had the advantage of J&R actually being impressive.

Neville has a real purpose other than traveling around America and we've gotten to see him do what he does best.
His season 1 role was being the starscream, which he did great. Season 2 has made him useless. He does something for two episodes, and then turns around to go do something completely else. If being an indecivisve idiot is his best point, than yes, we're seeing what he does best.

The idea of "retconning" the decision...first of all it wasn't a retcon. What happened happened the bombs were dropped and they had to turn the power back off.
Undoing the impact of an entire season is a retcon. They could have made Aaron wake up from a dream and pretend season 1 never happened, and it wouldn't have been worse.

Dropping the bombs was actually an interesting play in terms of writing because there is some risk. They can't even use those parts of America.
Season 1 dropped the bombs. Season 2 has done nanomachines and people that can't die because of nanomachines.

We got better villains like Truman, Dr. Calvin Horn (the creepy dude who got lit on fire), and the leader of that war clan. The war clan scenario was interesting in itself.
Zeljko Ivanek plays the same creepy dude on every show.

The choreography is better and the show is much more brutal. Despite being on at the time it is they don't really hold back on the shows brutality.
The fighting isn't as interesting as it was in season 1.

And in closing we got no Danny. The best part of season 2.
And instead of him we got his grandfather who appears way more and is even more annoying.
 
I want to respond in a reasonable manner but I don't think I've ever disagreed with someone so heavily in my entire life. Its actually mind boggling.

Different strokes I guess.
 
They reduced her role, which is the only reason she seems better.

Uh, no. Nope. She was whiny and weak and naive in season 1. In season 2 she's a killing machine who rarely cries or complains. She's a totally different character.

Undoing the impact of an entire season is a retcon. They could have made Aaron wake up from a dream and pretend season 1 never happened, and it wouldn't have been worse.

That doesn't make any sense. So they turned the electricity back on at the end of season 1 and immediately turn it off in the first scene of season 2. That doesn't erase all of the plot or character developments that took place over the course of the first season, which is exactly what would have happened if Aaron woke up from a dream and pretended that season 1 never happened.
 
The show's biggest problem for me is I keep forgetting what the characters are actually doing. I lost track of Neville's plot a long time ago.

walking around and causing a ruckus.

sad ending. i was hoping Jason would snap out of it. he got shit on at pretty much every turn in the show.
 
Soo... It's going to be cancelled? I hope they give them chance for another season. It's not the best show but is entertaining and much better than season 1.
 
So, it took them 19 episodes to wheel back to the whole mystery shed burning scene from the beginning of the season. I usually love it when shows do these sort of callbacks, but that wasn't nearly as interesting a reveal as I'd hoped, just the Nano being an asshole again. I also didn't recognize Charlie's dad for the first few minutes of that conversation - looks a lot different with a beard.

I liked the scene with Charlie and Neville. Felt bad for them both. It'd be nice if Miles was a little less awesome and MacGyverish though. After a while all the "perfect shot/can improvise his way out of anything" business gets a bit tiresome.

Also this show is hilarious with how everyone comments on the whole Bass+Miles thing. (Followed right up with the reveal that Bass and Rachel slept together to underscore the fact that Bass is completely straight, no gayness here, no siree!)
 
Also this show is hilarious with how everyone comments on the whole Bass+Miles thing. (Followed right up with the reveal that Bass and Rachel slept together to underscore the fact that Bass is completely straight, no gayness here, no siree!)

Kripke loves his bromantic sexual chemistry.
 
The fact that I can't find a review of the last episode from any on my regular sites and the cfact that only 3 people posted for the last episode tell me its getting canceled.

Which is a damn shame because the show has gotten a lot better. It still has some issues but if S1 was as good as S2 I bet this show would have been a hit.

I liked this episode too it exemplified how fucked the main characters are. But sadly soon it'll get canned and shit will have indeed happened.
 
The fact that I can't find a review of the last episode from any on my regular sites and the cfact that only 3 people posted for the last episode tell me its getting canceled.

Which is a damn shame because the show has gotten a lot better. It still has some issues but if S1 was as good as S2 I bet this show would have been a hit.

I liked this episode too it exemplified how fucked the main characters are. But sadly soon it'll get canned and shit will have indeed happened.

NBC's fault. I didn't even realize it was coming back on till I went through what my PVR recorded.
 
NBC's fault. I didn't even realize it was coming back on till I went through what my PVR recorded.
Exactly, I don't see how anyone can stay interested when they show one episode a month. It's stupid. I like the show enough I hope it doesn't get cancelled but wouldn't surprise me one bit with NBC's ridiculous sporadic showing of episodes people just aren't sticking with it.
 
I've actually been really enjoying this season and hope it gets another. Far worse shows have been renewed.
 
Episode was sort of filler, but I think it worked due to the fact that the Charlie + Neville scenes contained some of the strongest character moments in the series to date.

So, it took them 19 episodes to wheel back to the whole mystery shed burning scene from the beginning of the season.

Was the shed burning scene teased in the beginning of the season? This is the first time I recall having seen it.
 
Charlie and Neville scene was really sad :(

Neville pulled the trigger but was out of bullets, right?

Edit: Wait Charlie answered it anyway lol
 
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