Not serious if drunk or high. I cant wait for Gen II reremakes WarmHeartGold and PureSoulSilver, gen2 is the best probably, had great starters and region. #TeamChikorita
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Already Torn
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Magma vs Aqua aka the worst? At least the original series ones have some charm in how bad they are.
I hate all of this.
ArchedThunder
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If you don't use the EXP share and don't needlessly grind you are actually quite a few levels behind most of the bosses.
Finale Fireworker
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Not to insist that everyone's Pokémon experience is the guaranteed same, but I don't think this is true. I have said before that I completed XY without ever having Pokémon faint. Literally not once in the entire campaign. It solidified my decision to never play on Switch again.
XY feels balanced with steamrolling on mind. I mean, you get a free Lucario. Combined with you starter, that's pretty much game over for the enemies you face.
Going from XY to ORAS is a dramatic increase in difficulty.
ArchedThunder
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I was very often 10 levels behind the bosses in XY when not using the EXP share.
Finale Fireworker
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This is shocking to me - all I can say is that I wish my own experience was like yours. I am really enjoying ORAS, though. First time in Hoenn. I like how puny and weak your Pokémon are in the beginning. Some Pokémon don't even have damaging moves when you catch them. It's exactly what I want in a Pokémon game.
X/Y is still easier even if you play it half asleep with one hand.
Finale Fireworker
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Platinum is probably my favorite Pokémon game.
IceDoesntHelp
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What the hell is that?
Finale Fireworker
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What the hell is that?
Looks like some kind of elephant to me, but it doesn't stand out as something I've seen before.
What the hell is that?
Could be anything. Shit resolution strikes again.
MasterSheen
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It's Mudsdale I'm pretty sure
What the hell is that?
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IceDoesntHelp
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I see it now, thanks!
What the hell is that?
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/mudsdale/
Colours and general shape match up. Think its a Mudsdale with its head down.
EDIT: Beaten like a Mudsdale by a WishiWashi
Considering it seems to be only pandering to gen 1 again, nope.
precisely, they take up 152-251 on the National Dex.
I hope humanity one day finds a cure for your terrible opinion.
Finale Fireworker
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I find people who hate Gen II bizarre because most of the headlining Gen II Pokémon were actually designed alongside the original 150. Like, the distinction is arbitrary.
At least it's doing cool stuff despite it. Gen 6 went overboard.
Doing exactly what you said, I actually had to grind a lot to beat Platinum's Elite 4, which got boring pretty fast. True, I'm bad at making a good team and using proper strategies, but my idea of fun isn't dying repeatedly while gaining what little experience I can until I am able to brute force the league, and that's what I had to resort to.
hey, its also pandering to lucario fans!
I still think there will be ties to every region in some fashion or another, I have high hopes
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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Because a huge chunk of the megas were Gen 1, because you coincidentally got gen 1 starters in x/y and had a lot of wild gen 1 pokemon, because Alola-ized pokemon are coincidentally only gen 1 and there a million pokemon that deserve move/typeset switchups, gen 5 didn't get a single mega but Charizard got two. Its pretty much undeniable that Gen 1 gets fellated constantly while other gens sit in the background and take what they can get in terms of representation.
GiantBreadbug
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You really really don't? Like, really?
Maybe a good place to start is that we don't even know if Generations besides I are getting Alolan forms, which is frankly really fucking dumb. That's honestly the most frustrating part of the Gen I pandering to me. I want to see other Alolans
((Lord_Byron28
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While I agree with your point. Gen 3 had the most Megas out of all the generations.
it gets a lot of love so i could see how if you grew up on the later stuff you could be
itll come someday.
yo...what if we start getting new regional variants added to remakes, like megas were added to ORAS.
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Not to mention that Pokémon GO only has Gen 1 mons (yeah, not by Game Freak I know, but I feel that they had some say in the matter). They could at least put later-introduced Gen I evos and babies like Pichu and Crobat for consistency.
Notice how I said "only panders to gen 1". Nobody is going to disagree with gen 6 trying to make a play at nostalgia and alola forms focusing on gen 1 Pokemon(though I expect that to change during this gen).
-Gen 3 had the most mega evolutions and we know a lot of the choices were based on things like popularity
-Charizard and Mewtwo got two mega evolutions because they are extremely popular, which is why they have both gotten big pushes in Pokemon media
-All of the regions were well represented in Kalos inm terms of wild Pokemon
- Gen 4 clearly pandered to gen 2
Finale Fireworker
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I would really like this. I also don't think Game Freak should be afraid to adjust Pokémon's stats sometimes. A +10 here or a -10 there would drastically impact how that Pokémon performs, especially competitively.
I mean, a Pokémon like Flareon is a mess. Its best moves are Special, but its best stat is Attack. It has abysmal Defense, but also also cripplingly terrible Speed. Flareon can't do anything well. This is a Pokémon that needs some revision.
They changed some stats for 6th gen and could possibly even do it again.
Finale Fireworker
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I actually forgot they did that! That's actually exactly what I was thinking. How could I forget that actually happened?
Hero Prinny
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says you, gen 2 is my favorite one
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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I would hope there are a lot of Gen 3 megas considering it got a remake. And I'm not sure Gen 4 had any gen 2 pandering besides their remakes either.
Lord_Byron28
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I don't think people believe that pokemon only panders to Gen 1. People's problem is that the pandering is overwhelmingly skewed in Gen 1's favor. Gen 1 has 31 cross generational pokemon (as in baby or evolutions added in at a later gen) compared to Gen 2's 13 cross generational pokemon and Gen 3's 7 cross generational pokemon. Even Gen 4 which pandered to Gen 2 had the exact same amount of new cross generational pokemon introduced for gen 2 pokemon as gen 1 pokemon.
The game opened up with a callback to the red Gyarados in Johto, Cynthia gives you the same medicine to cure Psyducks as Jasmine gave you to cure Ampharos, Jasmine is in Sinnoh and participates in contests, there are 11 new baby/evolutions of Gen 2 pokemon, etc.
Well I mean there were a good number of new evolutions and references to the point where people were expecting the remakes without a doubt.
Well I mean the majority of those evolutions came from gen 2 and GF stopped focusing on them as much after that outside of gen 4 lol. Also, I posted my initial comment because someone did in fact say that Pokemon only panders to gen 1.
Lord_Byron28
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Well my bad, I must've missed that part. Also of the 31 cross-gen pokemon, 19 were from Gen 2, 11 from Gen 4 and 1 from Gen 6 (the only cross gen pokemon that gen). Also yeah GF abandoned cross-gen pokemon in favor of Megas and Gen 1 ended up making 30% of all the megas. People are afraid they are gonna abandon Megas and now go for Alolan forms but leave it at Gen 1 before they come up with some other new concept.
MegaManTrigger
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Fixed.
On the topic of Gen II "Pandering": Though it certainly had it fair share of connections to Johto like the opening documentary about the "Red Gyarados", Gen IV didn't really pander to Gen II, especially not with the new evolutions since all three previous generations saw several Pokémon of each respective generation gain a new evolution, be it a stage above or below. In fact, Gen II didn't even have the majority of cross-gen evolutions that Diamond/Pearl/Platinum saw. Guess which one did?:
Gen I: 12
Gen II: 10
Gen III: 6
Hero Prinny
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i hope gen 8 has like nothing for gen 1 and instead spreads the love to other gens instead.
Yeah which makes me suspect that the player will probably have to wake up the box legendary to deal with what I am guessing to be a possible alien invasion.
Still unsure how and where Zygarde fits into all which and by extension Yveltal and Xerneas.
I also have a theory that when AZ fired his weapon 3000 years ago it might have attracted attention of the Ultra Beast causing them to visit Earth.
That isn't how the Pokémon Company and Game Freak seem to be pushing as they keep saying 20 years of the Pokémon series so in my eyes we should be celebrating 20 years of the series as a whole and not just the origin.
For example when Sega celebrated Sonic's 20th anniversary with Sonic Generation the game actually celebrated 20 years of Sonic series as a whole, with Classic Sonic and the inclusion of the original Sonic 1 celebrating the first game.
Granted Game Freak can't do that with Sun and Moon but I feel that releasing the original gen 1 on virtual console was part of that as it was released on the date that the original Japanese gen 1 game launched 20 years ago.
If Sun and Moon is meant to be a celebration of 20 years of Pokémon series as a whole then I haven't see that in action.
This pretty much, out of all the generation gen 1 gets the most pandering with it being taken to the extreme in gen 6.
Truth be told I don't mind generation pandering but I do mind it when one generation gets the preferential treatment over the others or barely obvious to the point that it prevents the region from getting its own identity like how Kalos struggled due to the gen 1 pandering being over baring.
MegaManTrigger
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By that logic, they should only have released Mew as an event instead of doing monthly mythical giveaways for Gen I all the way to Gen V.
Yeah the music was SOOOO good xD
NipplesAndToes23
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I think pretty good. As seen in the trailer Water Compaction doesn't make Pallosand immune to water, so it's not that helpful and it has the extra weaknesses of Dark and Ghost, but at the same time is immune to Fighting and Normal. I would say it would've been better if it had a better ability.