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[zychi]

Just make them purple and green and blue, and just wait til the aliens come and complain about racism.

 

[Eyeh4wk]

Huh? Just use the one you can relate with.

 

[Maintenance]

Hahaha. Loving the jaundice comments.

Well hepatitis B IS pretty widespread in Asia.

Last time somebody made a joke like this, it didn't end well.

 

[Deified Data]

The yellow one's a little suspect unless it's there specifically for jaundiced people, but I see no issue with the others. Personally I don't like "human" emojis - keep them stylized and unrecognizable as any ethnicity.

 

[Kinyou]

lol, who thought this was a good idea

 

[John Kowalski]

the whole point of emojis is the anthropomorphizing of ascii characters or otherwise not human drawings come on

 

[Snuggles]

When I read about this earlier, I think it said that yellow are the default, as neutral ones, rather than Asian?

Nope. In the emoji language, there are default smilies which are yellow and non-human, and then separate set of human smileys's, which almost all look like the fair-skinned tan ones in the OP. 😘👨

 

[TatteredHat]

Time to go back to "", no need to add any sort of racial traits.

 

[captive]

What do you mean by "instead"? Instead of keeping them comically yellow?

Its cartoon faces, is it that serious of business now?

 

[freenudemacusers]

can't believe they didn't go with this one tbh

 

[Huw_Dawson]

That is probably too yellow, but it isn't racist - more just the incorrect skin tone.

 

[Stinkles]

I thought the "yellow people" were latino at first because the eyes don't look asian. Makes me think the people crying about it are the true racists.

we have to go deeper.

 

[EightBitNate]

Nope. In the emoji language, there are default smilies which are yellow and non-human, and then separate set of human smileys's, which almost all look like the fair-skinned tan ones in the OP. 😘👨

But how exactly do you know that they're not introducing a yellow one as to not show preference for a single color? That's how it seems.

 

[Mushroomer25]

Everything is fucking racist now. jeez that's all people focus on now-a-days. The characters look fine.

I'd usually incline to agree... That's kind of a deep shade of yellow, though. Inhumanly yellow.

Is it explicit that they're supposed to be representative of Asian peoples? Most emoticons are yellow by default, so it'd make sense to have consistency.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

"Critics"? of emojis? Huh.

We're better off laughing.

 

[Ekdrm2d1]

can't believe they didn't go with this one tbh

LIRL

 

[Cagey]

If you were to subtract the Simpons-yellow icons, I'd think the lightest skinned + black hair emojis were East Asian.

But with the Simpsons-yellow ones there... lol. How in the hell did that get past however many people it did for release?

 

[whitehawk]

The one problem with the internet is that non-problems become news stories because a handful of people on twitter can't think before they post.

 

[Oriel]

Time to go back to "", no need to add any sort of racial traits.

That's insulting towards people with big gobs like Mick Jagger. Just saying.... :'( etc etc

 

[shadowsdarknes]

I just now realized that my emotions have not been properly represented via emojis in the past.

 

[collige]

Actually, it turns out that the yellow color is the default (to match the usual yellow emoticon color), whereas the natural skin colors are all modifiers. See: http://blog.emojipedia.org/os-x-10103-emoji-refinements

Regardless, they look fucking terrible imo. Apple's implementations are pretty bad around the board. I'm also curious as to how these are implemented. Emojis are just Unicode characters for the most part, and the most recent version of Unicode is from last year. Is this an iOS specific feature where they're embedding extra data into the messages?

 

[Loofy]

Its cartoon faces, is it that serious of business now?

No not really. Should we only complain about serious things?

 

[genjiZERO]

I'm glad to see the jaundiced community finally getting the recognition it deserves.

 

[LyleLanley]

If you were to subtract the Simpons-yellow icons, I'd think the lightest skinned + black hair emojis were East Asian.

But with the Simpsons-yellow ones there... lol. How in the hell did that get past however many people it did for release?

To be fair this has only been released to developers so far. I imagine by the time this hits consumers it'll be changed.

 

[JonathanEx]

Nope. In the emoji language, there are default smilies which are yellow and non-human, and then separate set of human smileys's, which almost all look like the fair-skinned tan ones in the OP. ����

Right, but of the human ones, you'll have a default - which Apple may have just chosen to be yellow?

Looking at the Unicode stuff: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/tr51-1.html#Emoji_Modifiers - yellow isn't one of the skin tone modifiers. It notes yellow tended to be a colour of them anyway in original Japanese carrier versions though.

Apple's implementation even matches the example it gives for hiding other versions behind a long press:

I think it's one thing to argue that they're inappropriate for invoking the negative Asian stereotype -- if people think so, fair enough, but it may be misleading to suggest the yellow ones are to represent Asian people?

 

[Sane_Man]

The second column along blatantly represents Asians. The first row represents people with spray tans.

 

[Kurdel]

Its cartoon faces, is it that serious of business now?

That's a weird way to adress this issue...

 

[EightBitNate]

Actually, it turns out that the yellow color is the default (to match the usual yellow emoticon color), whereas the natural skin colors are all modifiers. See: http://blog.emojipedia.org/os-x-10103-emoji-refinements

Regardless, they look fucking terrible imo. Apple's implementations are pretty bad around the board.

Those look terrible.

 

[Enzom21]

Everything is fucking racist now. jeez that's all people focus on now-a-days. The characters look fine.

I know you probably won't come back to the thread but do you really not see anything wrong with that yellow emoji representing Asian people? Do you know anyone who is that color?

 

[LyleLanley]

Actually, it turns out that the yellow color is the default (to match the usual yellow emoticon color), whereas the natural skin colors are all modifiers. See: http://blog.emojipedia.org/os-x-10103-emoji-refinements

Regardless, they look fucking terrible imo. Apple's implementations are pretty bad around the board.

How come the guy in the turban and the baby aren't yellow? Although seeing them next to the original smiley emojis is a pretty decent argument for these not being intentionally racist.

 

[Iksenpets]

I my first thought on looking at those was that column 2 is Asian, and column 1 is a generic smiley yellow, for if you for some reason don't want to attach a race to your emoji.

 

[studyguy]

Pretty sure this will still get more use

 

[guek]

They're suffering from simpson's jaundice. It's only a matter of time

 

[EightBitNate]

I know you probably won't come back to the thread but do you really not see anything wrong with that yellow emoji representing Asian people? Do you know anyone who is that color?

The problem is that this part isn't true.

 

[Nevasleep]

#SquadGoals

I actually like Apple's implementation of Emoji, they look so much better than Android IMO.
Also Emoji posted above, aren't the same as what I have on my iPhone.

 

[Snuggles]

Right, but of the human ones, you'll have a default - which Apple may have just chosen to be yellow?

You're right, maybe it's just framed that way by the OP/article.

Anyways, hopefully this means all the other new emoji's are coming too. Need some new ones for my repertoire.

 

[Buddha Beam]

I'd just get rid of the yellow ones. The 'white' ones can pass as asian well enough. Or just take the 4th one and give it black instead of brown hair, maybe.


That said, I just don't care about stuff like this any more. Everything is always outrage this and offensive that. I totally understand these Chinese blogger's point of view, but I'm just fucking burned out on it all. That probably isn't a good thing in general, but I can't bring myself to do anything other than feel annoyed when people raise a big stink over relatively little things like this.

 

[BPoole]

The only one that is questionable is the Asian one. They aren't literally yellow

 

[collige]

How come the guy in the turban and the baby aren't yellow? Although seeing them next to the original smiley emojis is a pretty decent argument for these not being intentionally racist.

You'll have to ask Apple about that. Android 5 emojis are all that yellow blob thing, Windows 8/Phone ones are white, and Twitter uses a generic brown skin color for most people.

 

[Timeaisis]

why does everyone have an afro

Now that's racist.

 

[alvis.exe]

Last time somebody made a joke like this, it didn't end well.

Haha I'm not sure I get your point?

Considering that I think the super yellow color used is really really dumb if they intended it to be representative of Asian skin tones. Like actual jaundiced skin isn't even that yellow lol. If anything I thought it'd be obvious enough that I was making fun of people like in that link you posted.

I'll edit my post though since I suppose I can see how it could be misconstrued. So thanks.

 

[Toxi]

I really don't get why some companies think they have to make human-looking emoticons. They always look fucking terrible.

 

[Snuggles]

BTW isn't this guy meant to be asian: 👲🇯🇵

 

[Futureman]

#SquadGoals

I actually like Apple's implementation of Emoji, they look so much better than Android IMO.

couldn't disagree more. Google's look very nice, Apple's look straight out of the 80s or something.

I'm referring to the ones in Hangouts in a web browser.

 

[Nokagi]

That's the John Boehner emoji. You silly people thinking it's for Asians.

 

[studyguy]

couldn't disagree more. Google's look very nice, Apple's look straight out of the 80s or something.

I'm referring to the ones in Hangouts in a web browser.

The messenger ones on mine are green lol

 

[Kinyou]

Actually, it turns out that the yellow color is the default (to match the usual yellow emoticon color), whereas the natural skin colors are all modifiers. See: http://blog.emojipedia.org/os-x-10103-emoji-refinements

Regardless, they look fucking terrible imo. Apple's implementations are pretty bad around the board. I'm also curious as to how these are implemented. Emojis are just Unicode characters for the most part, and the most recent version of Unicode is from last year. Is this an iOS specific feature where they're embedding extra data into the messages?

Ok, that seems to make more sense. Lining them up like in the OP obviously just gives the impression that they all represent a race.

 

[nhlducks35]

couldn't disagree more. Google's look very nice, Apple's look straight out of the 80s or something.

I'm referring to the ones in Hangouts in a web browser.

Heh it looks like LocoRoco

 

[Nevasleep]

couldn't disagree more. Google's look very nice, Apple's look straight out of the 80s or something.

I'm referring to the ones in Hangouts in a web browser.

Those look ugly and cheap to me. I quite like the 80s.

 

[Angelus Errare]

couldn't disagree more. Google's look very nice, Apple's look straight out of the 80s or something.

I'm referring to the ones in Hangouts in a web browser.

These are nice af.