bloodydrake
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subversus said:
if you say so.....
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if you say so.....
I have this preordered on PS3 and I'm really looking forward to it. I just hope that version is up to snuff. It's kind of depressing that I won't be able to see this in 60fps until the game is out because of Bethesda's stubborness but I guess that'll just make it all the more glorious once I play.
bgassassin
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MuseManMike said:
For some reason I got the feeling Carmack doesn't like PS3's hardware.
GhostRidah
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I am a sucker for post apocalyptic worlds and a huge Carmack fan, must buy.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
DaBuddaDa said:
Yep, but you wont find the same splatter twice
(hopping this is even close to true)
Wow quite a few problems with this video.
Either the person playing it is just bad and not a console player, or watching that guy turn like a zombie with his head locked onto his shoulders.....This is the new Oblivion horse that drives like a jeep imagery. Improve that body turning before you go down corridors, free up that neck from the main base of the body.
Then when he is killing the first big armoured boss guy going up the muddy incline, after hei s dead and walking over his body you look and it has the same exact tatoo and forhead style of the sheriff who gave you the mission....Please explain that to me. Are we lacking many different body styles that they are being recycled in your promo video already?
Very cool looking grahpics though the coloring hits the right tone I really liked that.
but i'm such a pervert when that girl in the helmet said hey tough guy I woulda stopped and tried to chat her up for the next 30 minutes and I know damn well this corridor closed world type of game won't have that kind of crazy distraction. So what I'm trying to say how is this game any different then a corridor rails shooter when you create all this imagery if I cannot stop to get distracted and check out something else besides going to that room to talk to the sheriff...I dunno typical of todays game we are on rails man.
and yeah my eyes were getting fuzzy when he was turning and the screen was blurring I did not like that one bit. Bad bad video imo.
Either the person playing it is just bad and not a console player, or watching that guy turn like a zombie with his head locked onto his shoulders.....This is the new Oblivion horse that drives like a jeep imagery. Improve that body turning before you go down corridors, free up that neck from the main base of the body.
Then when he is killing the first big armoured boss guy going up the muddy incline, after hei s dead and walking over his body you look and it has the same exact tatoo and forhead style of the sheriff who gave you the mission....Please explain that to me. Are we lacking many different body styles that they are being recycled in your promo video already?
Very cool looking grahpics though the coloring hits the right tone I really liked that.
but i'm such a pervert when that girl in the helmet said hey tough guy I woulda stopped and tried to chat her up for the next 30 minutes and I know damn well this corridor closed world type of game won't have that kind of crazy distraction. So what I'm trying to say how is this game any different then a corridor rails shooter when you create all this imagery if I cannot stop to get distracted and check out something else besides going to that room to talk to the sheriff...I dunno typical of todays game we are on rails man.
and yeah my eyes were getting fuzzy when he was turning and the screen was blurring I did not like that one bit. Bad bad video imo.
mclaren777
Member
I thought the same thing.Metalmurphy said:
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I 'am in the same boat about the textures, what bothers me the most is that art-wise these are the most detailed and richest textures I have ever seen in a game, and It really annoys me me the fact that many of the details are lost because the low resolution. .
Night_Trekker
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Looks good. I love the sentry bots.
mickcenary
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thesoapster said:
Spot on. I'm getting a massive 'Shock vibe in terms of combat, mostly due to things like setting traps and diverting enemy fire. I love that shit.
The shotgun seems a bit whimpy, though.
Always-honest
Banned
Yep. Lot's of bioshock reference. Looks fucking great.
Nice how they build up the hype for this game. It just keeps getting better.
I wasn't that interested at fist. Now it's a must have.
Nice how they build up the hype for this game. It just keeps getting better.
I wasn't that interested at fist. Now it's a must have.
MrTroubleMaker
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looking great 
Looks absolutely killer.
I can forgive the lack of texture fidelity up close due to the sheer variety of the textures being presented. Most games with "high resolution textures" rely heavily on tiling to achieve that effect. Sure, they can place other layers on top to create the illusion of unique detail, but you can still see through that. Rage truly does offer real texture variety in a way we've never seen before.
What's most important is the quality of the overall scene. The effect is similar to Killzone 2 in that regard and I just find it to be beautiful on the whole. If this were 30 fps on consoles it would still be one of the best looking shooters out there but at 60?! Just insane. CoD doesn't even hold a constant 60 fps (not even close) but Carmack is claiming that this is a rock solid 60 fps 99% of the time at 1280x720.
I can forgive the lack of texture fidelity up close due to the sheer variety of the textures being presented. Most games with "high resolution textures" rely heavily on tiling to achieve that effect. Sure, they can place other layers on top to create the illusion of unique detail, but you can still see through that. Rage truly does offer real texture variety in a way we've never seen before.
What's most important is the quality of the overall scene. The effect is similar to Killzone 2 in that regard and I just find it to be beautiful on the whole. If this were 30 fps on consoles it would still be one of the best looking shooters out there but at 60?! Just insane. CoD doesn't even hold a constant 60 fps (not even close) but Carmack is claiming that this is a rock solid 60 fps 99% of the time at 1280x720.
Graphics Horse
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I think they should make a collector's edition that comes pre-installed on a 2TB hard disk to give you the textures at the detail they were made.
It's a very bad FPS, but what it actually is, is a good horror game. And I think being a bad shooter is kind of required for that actually, I've never played a mechanically great game that is scary, it's too empowering. FEAR for example, outclasses Doom 3 in combat and encounter design, but it's never scary.
Shit might be a tad harsh, I'm not one for the horror genre in any medium, and the compromises to gameplay for it to work in gaming is pretty extreme.
Shit might be a tad harsh, I'm not one for the horror genre in any medium, and the compromises to gameplay for it to work in gaming is pretty extreme.
A tad harsh? FEAR is a game that FEELS like dog shit. The animation and appearance of the weapon in the players hand is a joke. It looks absolutely terrible.StuBurns said:
Doom 3, on the other hand, FEELS incredible. The feeling of actually firing your weapon is extremely well done. Blasting an Imp with a shotgun at close range is always a blast.
Doom 3 has a lot of design problems to be sure, but it still plays very well.
I absolutely hate FEAR, however, but I won't suggest that the game is terrible. I think it FEELS awful to play, but I can see why some people would love it.
pseudocaesar
Member
Game looks great. At first I didnt really give a crap about it but the more media I see the more im intrigued. Will probably get it next year when its half the price.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Doom 3 had great gunplay and this looks like it will as well.
I'm really starting to see the benefit of the megatexture technology now. While everyone else is harping on texture resolution, I am astounded at the amount of variety and detail that is packed into every single little nook and cranny in the scenes. It's visually overwhelming and contains a level of unheard of texture customization.
I'll take endless, unique environments filled with specific details over loads of endlessly repeating super-high-res-but-still-fake-looking-because-its-a-fucking-videogame textures.
I'll take endless, unique environments filled with specific details over loads of endlessly repeating super-high-res-but-still-fake-looking-because-its-a-fucking-videogame textures.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Install the expansion and play till you get the double-barrel. It's like in the second level and doesn't take too long to get.jett said:Is Doom 3 really that good still? I tried replaying it a bit and it was kinda meh, although I didn't get very far. The enemies take a retarded amount of bullets to kill, annoyingly. SFX for the guns are pretty poor too, so the gunplay doesn't feel all that great to me either.
Also, the initial weapons in D3 are kinda on the weak side.
Phonomezer
Banned
Loved the trailer. I've always been sold on the game but now it's a lock.
And those visuals at 60fps... alot of other developers should be taking notes.
And those visuals at 60fps... alot of other developers should be taking notes.
If the enemies are taking too many bullets, you're playing it wrong.jett said:Is Doom 3 really that good still? I tried replaying it a bit and it was kinda meh, although I didn't get very far. The enemies take a retarded amount of bullets to kill, annoyingly. SFX for the guns are pretty poor too, so the gunplay doesn't feel all that great to me either.
Seriously, you should be able to down most enemies very easily. One shotgun blast should be enough to take out all of the base enemies, for instance, as long as you land the shot properly.
Fratkabula
Banned
I remember being burnt by Doom 3 the game. It worked only in screenshots.
FPSes have thankfully gone places since and id could obviously, never take them anywhere. They might make the best engines, but yet to see a good ride from them.
Also, does this game have no melee at all?
FPSes have thankfully gone places since and id could obviously, never take them anywhere. They might make the best engines, but yet to see a good ride from them.
Also, does this game have no melee at all?
mhayze
Member
Really glad to hear that they will still be working on the PC release all the way until the steam release to try and improve the quality (from the linked QuakeCon address posted in this thread). I hope that there is another layer of higher LOD texture data that eventually is made available for PC players that shows up what the artists originally drew (or as damn close to it as is feasible) - I appreciate that games need to target the consoles because of the size of the market, but it seems like a real shame to waste some of the potential of the PC.
I don't think that's the case at all. They needed to be realistic with file sizes in order to ship a disc and be reasonable with the standard digital download. It seems that their textures require an enormous amount of space. If this were PC only, I don't think we'd see all that much of a difference.mhayze said:
Well it's not the upcoming high res texture pack, so there are actually still some sacrifices. Apparently they will be eventually releasing a true HD texture pack for PC owners. I'm sure it will require a TON of VRAM though.omnomis said:
Actually the blu ray was a limiting factor as well. Lots of room but slow or something like that. Carmack has spoken about his dislike for Bluray in the past.StuBurns said:
There is a potential 'texture pack' coming for a level as a test. Not for the complete game. And it shouldn't take any additional memory if my understanding of virtualized textures is right.Ulchie said:
Those two things aren't connected. He doesn't like it because it's slow seeking. He blamed a lack of time on not producing higher res assets for PS3. Which I think is kind of bullshit, because he's been talking about doing it for like three years.Ulchie said:
Megatextures require a very small memory footprint, that is the whole point of the concept. It's true the PS3 doesn't support 8k by 8k textures, but all three platforms will be getting the same assets, on PC because id don't want a game on 'a stack of eight DVDs', but Carmack did specifically say he wished he'd had used the complete bluray for less compressed assets.NBtoaster said:
And actually, I imagined that's what would have happened, and that would have been an alt version on PC for those who wanted it. It's what id did with Rage on iPhone. There are two versions, one heavily compressed to save space, one not. Carmack has already said Doom 4 will use the complete bluray disc though I believe, so we should see a potential 'high res' PC version next time hopefully.