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New Sakaguchi RPG for Xbox One? [Up: Nope]
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Not many Japanese RPGs sell anywhere near 1 million in NA.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Seriously. Have you all gotten so completely in love with disappointment that you are taking an obvious joke as though it could ever be serious in any way?
Tell me this is just an intense new form of ironic posting. This is like a parody of NeoGAF.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Also, a Sakaguchi game might change word of mouth for Xbox One within hardcore gaming circles. Something that would actually help the Xbox One at this point. It's probably a good investment for Microsoft now at least.
Black Door
Banned
This time, don't make the short stories more interesting than the actual game.
shiftplusone
Member
Would bring down gaf and spell doom for the ps4 here
In the real world no one would care
Paracelsus
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Except Microsoft wanted the new FF out of it, and that's nowhere near the amount, so they probably said "okay, eff this" and went on to buy Square-Enix for two years.
Amid concern about Xbox in Japan, Spencer reiterated Microsoft's commitment to the Japanese market and said JRPGs will launch on Xbox One eventually.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-27-where-are-the-xbox-one-role-playing-games
FrankCaron
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Goddamnit. Don't make me buy an Xbox again just for a Mistwalker game again.
Here's hoping it ends up being Last Story II, with an HD-remake of the original.
Here's hoping it ends up being Last Story II, with an HD-remake of the original.
Infinite Undiscovery, LO, BD, Last Remnant. Everything was average except LO. Rest went multiplat - Star Ocean, Vesperia. And regardless of all that money-hatting, PS3 ended up with far, far more JRPGs and that will be pretty much the only genre on it from 2014 onwards. So it didn't really serve MS all that well, or the developers who threw their IPs all over (Tales) before figuring out where the fanbase was and had been all along.
A LO 2 however, would actually make me consider an X1 though, and that's saying a lot.
Bedameister
Member
Were Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon actually successfull games?
This -- I'm pretty wary of the "We'll give you lots of cool different games for the first 24 months" approach that Microsoft took last generation. I probably won't be buying a One until we're two years in and there are still games I'm interested in being announced for it.
Steverulez
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You might be hoping his new RPG is multiplat so sorry if I'm confusing what you're saying, but LO multiplat won't happen, Microsoft own it (and Blue Dragon/Nighty-Nine Nights if anyone else was wondering)
Edit: They also own Infinite Undiscovery
A whole bunch of 'single-console per generation' types abandoned Xbox to buy a Ps4. If a game comes for the x1 that looks amazing, there will be bellyaching. Look for the money hat, the what-a-waste, lolz and hate posts.
Buy all of the top platforms, get the games you want. Worry not for wonderful gaming gems that may pass you by because you are a console warrior.
Nightengale
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Since when did Lost Oddysey sell anywhere close to 1mil?
JP numbers was about 100k. NPD trackings for LO topped around 400k, if I remember correctly.
Taking worldwide sales into consideration, it's unlikely that LO sold over 800k, much less 1mil.
demosthenes
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Will never understand this mentality and I'm glad I don't fall into it.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I feel like we're going to see the same thing as the previous generation.
By that I mean Xbone gets a bunch of exclusive JRPGs causing some to buy just for those games early on.
Then support for the Xbone drops off a cliff followed by everyone just re-releasing updated versions for the PS4 and just straight out making PS4 exclusives like what see now.
I'd consider picking up an Xbone if they offer a kinectless version as well as having some really strong games that I develop a strong desire for. What I'm worried about is spending that money to get those games then seeing all that support move over to the PS4 which I already have.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
By that I mean Xbone gets a bunch of exclusive JRPGs causing some to buy just for those games early on.
Then support for the Xbone drops off a cliff followed by everyone just re-releasing updated versions for the PS4 and just straight out making PS4 exclusives like what see now.
I'd consider picking up an Xbone if they offer a kinectless version as well as having some really strong games that I develop a strong desire for. What I'm worried about is spending that money to get those games then seeing all that support move over to the PS4 which I already have.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Monty Mole
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As a PS4 owner, the only thing that can tempt me to buy a Xbox One now is top notch exclusives. And this would be one of those. Don't be messin' Phil.
IAmRandom31
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0% chance of happening.
The poor sales of Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey basically kicked Mistwalker out of the console generation last time around. No way they make the same mistake twice.
Unless they think having cost of development handled is the only true thing with meaning, and in that case if they do think that they may as well hang up their coats anyway, they are done. Word of mouth, actual game purchases, market saturation is how you build a product, not just having its creation costs handled.
You really think Mistwalker, Sakaguchi thought 400K total sales of Lost Odyssey or 200K total sales for Blue Dragon, was just a fantastic thing? Hitting that percentage of the market basically means your game ... a game from freakin Sakaguchi himself, was just a small drop in the bucket overall.
You have to get market saturation, get people to spread news about a game themselves, along with proper marketing to have any sort of chance with a RPG series.
The poor sales of Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey basically kicked Mistwalker out of the console generation last time around. No way they make the same mistake twice.
Unless they think having cost of development handled is the only true thing with meaning, and in that case if they do think that they may as well hang up their coats anyway, they are done. Word of mouth, actual game purchases, market saturation is how you build a product, not just having its creation costs handled.
You really think Mistwalker, Sakaguchi thought 400K total sales of Lost Odyssey or 200K total sales for Blue Dragon, was just a fantastic thing? Hitting that percentage of the market basically means your game ... a game from freakin Sakaguchi himself, was just a small drop in the bucket overall.
You have to get market saturation, get people to spread news about a game themselves, along with proper marketing to have any sort of chance with a RPG series.
keep fighting the good fight, you will save the industry
My post was not about LO, it was about the assertion that half a million is a "bomba" for an RPG. Not sure if you read the post I quoted and the one he quoted or not.
The Last Story is a Nintendo IP so that ain't happening.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Seems like in Japan Blue Dragon did better than Lost Odyssey in Japan.
Bedameister
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New Mistwalker JRPG and Platinum Game announced on Tuesday together with Japan Xbox One Launch Date. That would be something right? GAF would be dead immediatly
lighthouse777
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I want lost odyssey 2!!!
IdreamofHIME
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Who's actually making it though?
Both Feelplus (LO) and Artoon (Blue Dragon) were closed by AQ (Last Story), who themselves don't exist now.
Both Feelplus (LO) and Artoon (Blue Dragon) were closed by AQ (Last Story), who themselves don't exist now.
LukasTaves
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YES, please!
Dark_castle
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360 had a surprisingly solid amount of localized JRPG, perhaps even more so than PS3 in the earlier years. MS sure pushed hard to promote 360 in Japan and please the western audience who came from the Japanese dominant PS2 era.
Blue Dragon
Enchanted Arms
Eternal Sonata
Final Fantasy XIII
Infinite Undiscovery
Lost Odyssey
Magna Carta 2
Nier
Resonance of Fate
Star Ocean 4
Tales of Vesperia
The Last Remnant
If by some unprecedented miracle that they're doing it again with X1, it looks like I need to get one of them.
Alx
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You mean buying a console for a game you want to play ? That seems the most common of all reasons...
nope, LO is great, but didnt sell well
What? The last time I saw number for LO on NPD it was over 700k. That was after release I believe. It sold well.
Edit: Hmm actually think that was worldwide.
The Cartographer
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Not in Japan IIRC.
But it was Microsoft's money, not Mistwalker.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I seriously, seriously doubt this but Microsoft could have an internal studio handle it.
What if Mistwalker was the internal studio?
Vane_MagicCity
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Are you sure about that?
I can list more than three PS3 exclusive JRPG's. Demon Souls, Tales of Xilia, Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, Tales of Xilia 2, Tales of Graces F, Final Fantasy X HD and I am sure there are more.
Or Lost Odyssey 2...either one of those would be awesome,or something new but in the same genres...
Bedameister
Member
Don't forget Ni No Kuni!!!
demosthenes
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Buying a $400 or $500 system for a single game is crazy.
My comment was to posts along the lines of "I had no interest before but NOW!!!"
Give it a few years, and those developers will probably join GAF's servers ...
Iwata is desperate, so I can see why Nintendo would fund another Sakaguchi flop, but Microsoft? The company's actions with Xbox One have been so focused on the Anglosphere that I don't under why they'd bother with this. Japan isn't going to care, and I kind of doubt a large amount of western JRPG players will either. It also goes against what they're funding in that country. Over the past four or so years, they've only been picking up really low budget stuff.
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