shuri said:everybody looks too young. Why would a bunch of young people like that get command of a hugefuckoff spaceship.
It just looks like a scene from a sketch show.
Big Icarus said:Does Captain Kirk have highlights? :lol
Oh man.
I believe Pegg is older than Doohan was in '66.DoctorWho said:The casting looks VERY age appropriate to me. Well, except for Scottie, who could look a bit older.
WinFonda said:I'm not liking the look of this at all.. Why did they cast so many young people? It looks like some WB teen drama.
Xamdou said:Looks like their targeting a younger audience judging by the cast they chose.
So revitalize the entire Star Trek saga with an entire new set of cast with an entirely new story as well?
Cheebs said:I believe Pegg is older than Doohan was in '66.
Spire said:They're not retconning the old show, they've got a plot device in place to explain all of it. I read a rumor about what it was awhile back but I can't fully remember it, it had something to do with time travel and parallel universes and it was generally just very "Star Trek".
And I just checked, the guy playing Sulu and the girl playing Uhura are both older than the actors/actress who played them in the original series.DoctorWho said:Really? The actor still looks younger. :lol :lol Still, I know Pegg will put in a good performance.
Piscopink said:Star Trek has lost it's direction completely.
Everyone should go back and watch ST:TNG again, then come up with a new series.
Fuck DS9. Fuck Voyager. Fuck Enterprise.
Does Pike fit into any of it?Spire said:They're not retconning the old show, they've got a plot device in place to explain all of it. I read a rumor about what it was awhile back but I can't fully remember it, it had something to do with time travel and parallel universes and it was generally just very "Star Trek".
See? No one has a clue what they are talking about, age wise.BlueTsunami said:They should just call it Teen Titans
DS9 was amazing but all of those shows led to the downfall of Trek. None of them even had a fraction of the popularity of TNG or TOSdalyr95 said:I remember hearing that Abrams has no intention of ever seeing an episode of DS9, Voyager or Enterprise and that is why this will fail
FixedCheebs said:See? No one has a clue what they are talking about.
fallengorn said:Does Pike fit into any of it?
Pike has a fairly large role in the movie.fallengorn said:Does Pike fit into any of it?
Cheebs said:Pike has a fairly large role in the movie.
Cheebs said:See? No one has a clue what they are talking about, age wise.
Big Icarus said:Does Captain Kirk have highlights? :lol
Oh man.
BlueTsunami said:Don't you sass me, Cheebs!
But in all seriousness. Its not about the actual age of the actors but the perceived age on screen. They just "look" very young. Maybe its just a generational thing and it'll never be like it was but it seriously feels like The OC of deep space exploration.
Okay, first thing that surprised me: I think Leonard Nimoy is sort of the star of the movie. I think a lot of this movie is about Spock. Nimoy-aged Spock, mind you.
How?
Okay... you know the scene in BACK TO THE FUTURE 2? Where Doc Brown explains alternate timelines? Well, this is sort of... ummm... TREK TO THE FUTURE, I guess you would call it...
Picture an incident that throws a group of Romulans back in time. Picture that group of Romulans figuring out where they are in the timeline, then deciding to take advantage of the accident to kill someones father, to erase them from the timeline before they exist, thereby changing all of the TREK universe as a result. Who would you erase? Whose erasure would leave the biggest hole in the TREK universe is the question you should be asking.
Who else, of course, but James T. Kirk?
If Spock were in a position to change that incident back, and then in a position to guard that timeline and make sure things happen the way theyre supposed to, it creates...
... well, what does it create? Because evidently the plan is to use this second timeline as a way of rebooting without erasing or ignoring canon. These new voyages of the ENTERPRISE, theyre taking place in whatever timeline starts with this story. Maybe this timeline features dramatic differences. Like... say... if Vulcan were to be blown up. If the Vulcans in the series were suddenly the last of their kind, alone in the universe, it would change who they are and maybe even redefine their strict rejection of emotion in favor of logic.
You can introduce these Universe2 versions of classic TREK events and characters, and you can play with the audiences expectation. Things have changed. Some things play out the way you expect some dont. Its basically the same solution Marvel Comics has in terms of publishing, the way they use their ULTIMATES line to reboot continuity.
As a friend said when I was talking to him about this tonight, Wait... so youre saying theyre not just doing a square one reboot that would simplify everything, but that theyre actually making it... more complicated?
It would appear so. Not that I think TREK fans mind complicated. Its certainly not the safest choice if this is, in fact, the direction he goes with the film.
Im not telling you that anything I said above is 100% set in stone. I dont think Abrams is far enough along for that to be the case yet. But they are considering some really crazy reinventions, on par with some of the choices Abrams was making on SUPERMAN.
ManDudeChild said:How are we supposed to take the guy from Harold & Kumar seriously as Sulu? Somebody answer that one for me. He's flying the Enterprise, hitting on green alien men, and I'm thinking ... "dude, White Castle is on Earth wtf are you doing out there?"
mightynine said:...um, that's your problem, not mine?
I mean, did you watch the Dark Knight and thinking "Dude, you should be hitting on Julia Stiles, why are you covered in face paint?"
DoctorWho said:*classicstartrek.jpg*
Spire said:Holy shit, Scottie looks like Michael Madsen. :lol
mightynine said:...um, that's your problem, not mine?
I mean, did you watch the Dark Knight and think "Dude, you should be hitting on Julia Stiles, why are you covered in face paint?"
ManDudeChild said:But this casting seems like all sorts of pandering.
Don't you mean the Winchester?kennah said:Is that Roldy?
Screw new life and new civilizations, let's get this bitch to a White Castle.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. The guy that played Kumar does a pretty good job on House.ManDudeChild said:Pretty much the best articulation of the problem in this thread thus far. How are we supposed to take the guy from Harold & Kumar seriously as Sulu? Somebody answer that one for me. He's flying the Enterprise, hitting on green alien men, and I'm thinking ... "dude, White Castle is on Earth wtf are you doing out there?"
ManDudeChild said:No. But in the case of The Dark Knight, I didn't get an OC, The Hills, I know there are other crappy... oh Leguna Beach is another one, vibe. I'm a trekkie, and I will happily eat crow if this turns out to be a good trek movie. But this casting seems like all sorts of pandering.
momolicious said:can you explain what makes it look like OC, Leguna Beach, The Hills?
mightynine said:Or, god forbid, it expands the fanbase by bringing new people in because they recognize some of the actors (which, for the record, I have no clue who they are besides Pegg and Cho).
But pandering? That's a bit much.
Oh, and I keep forgetting to add how awesome the uniforms look. Very nice.
I completely agree with you. I love Belanna.Kevin said:Funny how peoples opinions of Star Trek differ depending on various things such as age group. To me the newer Enterprise and Voyager were the best. I have all of the series and I have enjoyed them all. Some quick Thoughts:
Star Trek Original: Cheesy and old. Really bad visuals, some decent plotlines.
Next Generation: This is when the series started getting more serious, great, but still some cheese.
Deep Space 9: It's different and decent enough, still I prefer the ship layout of the show.
Voyager: This is one of the best Star Treks and I think the stories and writing is often times better then Next Generation.
Enterprise: People gave up on this during season one but the show really picked up in season 3-4 and became quite the masterpiece that no one saw. Some bad acting in places but the art design was brilliant and the stories and overall epic feel was better then previous Star Treks.
My opinions of course.![]()
demon said:I had a dream where this movie starred Micheal Keaton as Kirk. true story.
dalyr95 said:I remember hearing that Abrams has no intention of ever seeing an episode of DS9, Voyager or Enterprise and that is why this will fail
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That does not deserve applause.
Dax01 said:That does not deserve applause.
it doesDax01 said:That does not deserve applause.
S. L. said:it does
while DS9 is a great show, the true 'trek' is TOS and TNG to me
No, it doesn't. There is no "true trek." Deep Space Nine is Star Trek just like TOS and TNG are, and DS9 is the best Star Trek series.S. L. said:it does
while DS9 is a great show, the true 'trek' is TOS and TNG to me
FUCK YEAFatalah said:You guys are a bunch of idiots--- the ones that are judging the quality of this movie solely based on how the cast looks.
JJ put a heckuvalot of time into choosing the right people for each role. You guys need to settle down and go with the flow, JJ'll do us right. HE'LL DO US ALL.