Surface Studio was announced and it doesn't come with Pascal Graphics and starts at $2999 for 8GB RAM....
Then it isn't for Gamers, MS. It's for the Macbook crowd that are too dumb to get a Macbook.
You are taking the "For Gamers" part too literally. No, this isn't for what GAF considers a "Gamer" in that you won't be playing high end modern games or VR on it. For someone who wants a good laptop, that can double as a tablet in a pinch, has a pen, good battery life and can play some games on it (but not necessarily their primary gaming device)... the Surface Book is a great option.> For gamers
> 2GB VRAM
> $2400
Yeah no
You are taking the "For Gamers" part too literally. No, this isn't for what GAF considers a "Gamer" in that you won't be playing high end modern games or VR on it. For someone who wants a good laptop, that can double as a tablet in a pinch, has a pen, good battery life and can play some games on it (but not necessarily their primary gaming device)... the Surface Book is a great option.
You are taking the "For Gamers" part too literally. No, this isn't for what GAF considers a "Gamer" in that you won't be playing high end modern games or VR on it. For someone who wants a good laptop, that can double as a tablet in a pinch, has a pen, good battery life and can play some games on it (but not necessarily their primary gaming device)... the Surface Book is a great option.
In what way? This is very comparably priced to it's direct competition (MBP, Dell XPS line, etc).lol not for $2400.
You missed the entire point then if you are looking to play BF1 at max settings. You need to forget the "For Gamers" comment from a GAF point of view.For $2400 I should be able to play BF1 at max settings on this thing. No way is this a great option for that price.
Since people keep missing it.. the dGPU is a GTX 965M:
Essentially a 2 year old chip.[/URL]
Why? You can finance these.
Overpriced, useless upgrade for anyone with a Surface Book.
No Kaby Lake CPU and no Pascal GPU.
Dang. Gotta wait for the next refresh.
For $2400 I should be able to play BF1 at max settings on this thing. No way is this a great option for that price.
Why would you want to finance this? With each passing month, the product loses value. This isn't like a house or a car.
> For gamers
> 2GB VRAM
> $2400
Yeah no
That sums up the Surface Book line fairly well. It (Surface Book) actually has an integrated GPU in the tablet portion that is used the majority of the time, and a dGPU in the keyboard base (along with a battery) which only kicks on when needed.It certainly occupies a unique space in the form factor/battery life/GPU power spectrum, I'm sure. Anything with a better GPU is going to be thicker and probably have less battery life. And anything else that's even close to as thin as the SB is going to have an integrated GPU that's a faction as good as a 965M- even the Razer Blade Stealth has an integrated GPU, it can only do decent gaming when plugged into an external GPU.
I mean, it's pretty clearly not meant for the "I want to play games at max settings and 60fps" crowd so much as the "I want to play games at decent settings/framerate on a machine that isn't massive and doesn't run out of battery in two hours of gaming" crowd.
You are taking the "For Gamers" part too literally. No, this isn't for what GAF considers a "Gamer" in that you won't be playing high end modern games or VR on it. For someone who wants a good laptop, that can double as a tablet in a pinch, has a pen, good battery life and can play some games on it (but not necessarily their primary gaming device)... the Surface Book is a great option.
The Surface Book is a premium product for a premium price and it seems to be a good/fair one to me. This new model/config is just an increase in specs/performance to their i7 line. They do not even say it was something made or marketed specifically for gamers. They said they listened to feedback from gamers about the Surface Book that they wanted a more powerful dGPU so they added one. This really is stretching it for being in Gaming Discussion.That sums up the Surface Book line fairly well. It (Surface Book) actually has an integrated GPU in the tablet portion that is used the majority of the time, and a dGPU in the keyboard base (along with a battery) which only kicks on when needed.
You can absolutely get a laptop with better raw performance for cheaper, but it will be much heavier, thicker and have worse battery life. It also (likely) won't be detachable and usable as a tablet or have pen support. The Surface Book (and even the Pro), does a lot of things well but will undoubtedly lose to other devices at singular functions.
For me, it was the ideal laptop that I was looking for and a great upgrade to the Surface Pro I was using. Yes, it is expensive but I couldn't find another device that I liked more that was appreciably less.
Why would you finance anything that loses value? People finance shit all the time.
No Kaby Lake CPU and no Pascal GPU.
Dang. Gotta wait for the next refresh.
Is the screen still wobbly when attached to the keyboard dock?
That was a dealbreaker for me.
They put that sort of battery life into some of their lower priced models, I might be in. Pretty good. Pretty, pretty good.
That's reasonable, but I don't know much about the perf differences between the 9xx and 10xx lines. It seems as they went with a more powerful card, but stayed within the same line. I'm not sure if that is because they wanted to stay away from "bleeding edge" to avoid issues like they saw with the new Intel chips in the SP4 and Book, but sure it would be nice to have the latest comparable GPU in it.The thing is that unlike the Studio which is fine with a 965 at 3K I would expect a laptop maker to go above and beyond in battery efficiency.
They could've gone with a 1050 instead of the 965. Similar power but the 1050 will allow you to game much longer.
can this run oculus?