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[Chris Michael]

All I know is that the artstyle is a million times better than this shit

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mr skunk says "omg Innocence looks hot"

 

[jj984jj]

It's the same artist.

 

[Chris Michael]

It's the same artist.

I know that, doesn't mean the style is sooooo much better though. Tempest's designs just seemed to have random shit placed all over the characters in all the wrong places.

 

[legend166]

From that horrible writer over at IGN who writes the Virtual Console reviews:


Don't get too hyped over this one just yet. You'll find out why.

In reference to Tales Wii.

 

[Durante]

Don't get too hyped over this one just yet. You'll find out why.

Battle controlled via Wii Fit board. Lean left or right to move, jump to attack.

 

[Shouta]

Battle controlled via Wii Fit scales. Lean left or right to move, jump to attack.

It's really a Dragon Quest Swords style game I bet!

 

[Sagitario]

From that horrible writer over at IGN who writes the Virtual Console reviews:


Don't get too hyped over this one just yet. You'll find out why.

In reference to Tales Wii.

Hometek? Dimps? Tose?

It's really a Dragon Quest Swords style game I bet!

Free Run LMBS was already confirmed...

 

[Mr. Pointy]

From that horrible writer over at IGN who writes the Virtual Console reviews:


Don't get too hyped over this one just yet. You'll find out why.

In reference to Tales Wii.

Shitty on-rails 1st person dungeon crawler confirmed! With Free Run LMBS!

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Hometek? Dimps? Tose?

Silicon Knights using UE3.

 

[Shouta]

Free Run LMBS was already confirmed...

Done in first person!

 

[jj984jj]

Kinda strange that he'd tell fans not to get excited unless kiryogi's speculation earlier could be right then, that's the only reason for fans not hype this to oblivion (ignoring ToI in the process ). This could be Sword of Legendia taken in a new direction to appeal to all the people who bought ToS on GCN, it would explain why they aren't calling this ToS 2 as well. That doesn't make sense either though since the battle system has already been confirmed to be free roam LMB, weird. Maybe it's the developer... oh well it's all useless speculation until we hear more about the game.

 

[Magicpaint]

Holy shit. The Tales fanboyn in me weeps with joy.

WILL BUY THEM ALL. :lol

 

[Sagitario]

Done in first person!

Now I can't sleep from the excitement and the fear of disappointment... and it's raining outside [which is pretty rare where I live... a desert]... so... the lights will go off any minute...

 

[Magicpaint]

Was Tales of the Tempest really that horrible? I know it was short, but did it even play well?

My main gripes were:

- Lack of hi-ougis
- Too short (I best it in 14 hrs even when I messed around with side-quests and deliberately fought many battles)
- Too easy
- No grades so basically zero replay value
- No map in the dungeons makes it confusing and too maze like
- The overworld is too freaking big and empty with little towns and such

Other than that it looks, feels and plays like a Tales game, just minus the budget. I enjoyed it.

 

[Mockingbird]

It looks as if the character designs for Tales of Symphonia -Ratatosuku no Kishi- (Tales of Symphonia -The Knight of Ratatosuku) aren't done by Kosuke Fujishima (Oh My Goddess!).

I have taken the liberty of providing a translation of the article on Tales of Symphonia -Ratatosuku no Kishi-.

Romanji Transliteration

[TOS} Sono go o egaita
Shinsaku ga wii ni

Tsui ni Wii de [TO] ga asoberu hi ga yatte kuru!!

Sousahou ya shisutemu nado, kore made ni nai mono ni naru?!


English Translation

The afterward of Tales of Symphonia is depicted.
The new project heads to Wii!!

Finally, the day that you can play the Tales of games on the Wii has come!!
Will there be a new control method / system / etc. (one that up until now, has never been done before)?!

English Translation w/ Localization

Here is comes mother******s! The sequel to Tales of Symphpnia is here! And it's headed to the Nintendo mother******* Wii, bitches!

Alas, the day when ye can play the Tales of games on the Wii has cometh.
Will there be game-ruining waggle controls? Or shall there be it game-enchancing waggle controls? For this, ye must wait until next month, for we hadth run out of space for the article.

 

[Magicpaint]

Man, Tales of rebirth is my favourite Tales game (tied with Abyss). To play it on portable is freaking awesome. I can't wait. Best battle system in the series. Hopefully it's ported well, and runs just as well as it does on PS2.


Hmmm, Alpha system have done a great job with the Narikiri Dungeon games and Radiant Mythology... ToI is in good hands, I reckon -- would be nice to seem tham work on a real Tales game for a change. Though I'd still have preferred Tales Stuido, but oh well.

 

[Sagitario]

I wish I had waited to import at least ToR [playing it on a region free PSP next to my PC where I'd be able to read import FAQs while playing >>>>>>>> not playing it at all on a PS2 incapable of playing imports away from the PC room]...

ToDrDC... well, it doesn't bother me that much since the updates are mostly story related and the language is definitely a big barrier...

For the final time, Symphonia wii is NOT SYMPHONIA 2.

I missed this... Do you say it because there is not a 2 in the title but a subtitle instead? I mean, it takes place 2 years after the original ToS and all main Symphonia characters will appear [as you said it]...

 

[Magicpaint]

I missed this... Do you say it because there is not a 2 in the title but a subtitle instead? I mean, it takes place 2 years after the original ToS and all main Symphonia characters will appear [as you said it]...

We still don't know if it's the real thing, because details are thin. For now, it definitely doesn't seem like ToS2 to me.

 

[SantaC]

OMG ToS 2 GAME FOR Wii! This is the biggest news ever for me beating the zeldas, marios, metroids and final fantasies, YEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rakka]

OMG ToS 2 GAME FOR Wii! This is the biggest news ever for me beating the zeldas, marios, metroids and final fantasies, YEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

congrats :lol

(neutral) SantaC
I want SOA2, bitches!
NOW.

 

[SantaC]

congrats :lol

(neutral) SantaC
I want SOA2, bitches!
NOW.

oops. SoA2 is up there also

 

[khan]

Tales of Innocence seems to be using the same engine as used in TOT, may be updated. man that game stunk in every department.

Here's hopig this one turns out well.

 

[SantaC]

The problem is if the Symphonia team is working on ToS2 the game will probably have the same system which is a total downgrade compared to Abyss. After playing Abyss I can't even enjoy Symphonia anymore because Abyss eclipses it in every aspect. I really want the ToS/TotA team to make something else.

wtf? Abyss is a great game but it had its share of problems. poor graphics and slowdown on worldmap, horrible loadingtimes and the special attacks were lacking compared to ToS. Sure Abyss is overall a better game, but you're kidding if you think ToA eclipses ToS in every way.

 

[Magicpaint]

wtf? Abyss was a great game but it had its share of problems. poor graphics on worldmap, horrible loadingtimes and the special attacks were lacking compared to ToS. Sure Abyss is overall a better game, but you're kidding if you think ToA eclipses ToS in every way.

Yeah, Symphonia had its advantages, especially in the replay value dept. But Abyss was still vastly superior. If it was on GC, issues like load times, world map would evaporate. It was a bit limited by the system it was on.

Tales of Innocence seems to be using the same engine as used in TOT, may be updated. man that game stunk in every department.

Here's hopig this one turns out well.

Tempest was 3 on 3 LMBS, this is Dimension Stride LMBS.

 

[SantaC]

Yeah, Symphonia had its advantages, especially in the replay value dept. But Abyss was still vastly superior. If it was on GC, issues like load times, world map would evaporate. It was a bit limited by the system it was on.

Yes Abyss is superior, but not in every way. One could argue against the OST also. The music is maybe a bit more memorable on ToS.

 

[CaVaYeRo]

New Symphonia game, takes place 2 years after. Still featuring a Free run based LMB.

sory, whats LMB?

thx.

 

[Magicpaint]

Yes Abyss is superior, but not in every way. One could argue against the OST also. The music is maybe a bit more memorable on ToS.

Really? I thought ToS had a REALLY bland soundtrack. TotA had some great tunes on the other hand.

But Legendia pisses on both, neither have a soundtrack worth caring about.

sory, whats LMB?

thx.

Linear Motion Battles.

 

[Link1110]

lol not the best scan ever and i cant seem to make anything out of it :

WTF? Alright, look at the guy in the ToS section, and look at my avatar.

 

[SantaC]

Really? I thought ToS had a REALLY bland soundtrack. TotA had some great tunes on the other hand.

Well it's all subjective opinion I guess

But Legendia pisses on both, neither have a soundtrack worth caring about.

Sadly the worst game have the best music yes :/

 

[CaVaYeRo]

Really? I thought ToS had a REALLY bland soundtrack. TotA had some great tunes on the other hand.

But Legendia pisses on both, neither have a soundtrack worth caring about.



Linear Motion Battles.

thanks!

 

[king zell]

DS

Wii

PSP

 

[legend166]

Oh hey the PSP game looks better than the Wii game fancy that.

 

[Magicpaint]

The Wii game looks very bland, bad capture perhaps?

I don't like how they're reusing Abyss models in Innocence, but it looks a definite step up from tempest visually. Which is great because I thought Tempest looked nice.

Rebirth PSP.

 

[Dascu]

Graphically, the Wii game doesn't look that great. But, at least we've got confirmation it won't be a first-person slashing spin-off or anything.

 

[C.T.]

Oh hey the PSP game looks better than the Wii game fancy that.

The Wii game is full 3d, no prerendered backgrounds.

 

[SantaC]

Oh hey the PSP game looks better than the Wii game fancy that.

lol no it doesn't...

Graphically, the Wii game doesn't look that great. But, at least we've got confirmation it won't be a first-person slashing spin-off or anything.

looks to be Abyss quality and that is fine with me as long as the game is good

 

[rakka]

Graphically the Wii version is quite disappointing. (I'd say at about GC launch levels -- maybe not even that)

It's like the DS version (which looks great for the system) but at higher resolutions.

Still better than the static-bg PSP one however.

 

[IceIpor]

From that horrible writer over at IGN who writes the Virtual Console reviews:


Don't get too hyped over this one just yet. You'll find out why.

In reference to Tales Wii.

I only hope that he meant that the main focus will be on the DS Tales for now, and it isn't an indicator of the treatment the TOS sequel will get because of it.

 

[cw_sasuke]

is it just me or the innoncent looks better than ToS:KoR...at least at those screens

 

[Link1110]

Tales of Innocence seems to be using the same engine as used in TOT, may be updated. man that game stunk in every department.

ToT wasn't all bad. Add sound effects when you hit an enemy, and make the menus more standard Tales-like, and don't have any Tilkis style trannys (Why did that girl just get the onii-san title? That can't be a guy.) and it should be fine.

 

[Durante]

Wow, that's a really really damning shot. I hope it's just a really bad scene. The round shadows and completely indistinct textures make it look like a higher resolution N64 game.

Spoiler

Yes, I know the Wii is capable of more, it's a platform nearly twice as fast as the one that ran Rogue Leader.

I'm playing Tales of the World on PSP right now and it sure doesn't look worse than this shot.

 

[dark10x]

Meh. Another high volume, low quality Tales announcement. I would love to see a full blown PS3/360 Tales game sometime in the future...

Man, Tales of rebirth is my favourite Tales game (tied with Abyss). To play it on portable is freaking awesome. I can't wait. Best battle system in the series. Hopefully it's ported well, and runs just as well as it does on PS2.

TOD2 (also a PS2 game) ran perfectly on PSP and looked fantastic. Rebirth should be no different.

 

[Magicpaint]

ToT wasn't all bad. Add sound effects when you hit an enemy, and make the menus more standard Tales-like, and don't have any Tilkis style trannys (Why did that girl just get the onii-san title? That can't be a guy.) and it should be fine.

Tilkis just joins people like Jay, Zelos, Mao, Ion and the rest. Every Tales game demands a male character that looks positively feminine.

But I agree with you, TotT was decent! It's the worst in the series, but it's not all that bad. It's playable! And like you said, those additions, along with a good grade system and a lengthier quest would have made it an adequate entry.

I would love to see a full blown PS3/360 Tales game sometime in the future...

So would I actually, even if it's a one-off like Symphonia GC was.

TOD2 (also a PS2 game) ran perfectly on PSP and looked fantastic. Rebirth should be no different.

ToR is far more chaotic though, and looks a lot better than ToD2. The three-line system and tons of enemies make the battles by far the most chaotic in the series. The PS2 version had some slowdown in the latter parts of the game, I just hope it's ported well. They've been great thus far with Eternia, Phantasia FVE and Destiny 2 though, so I'm optimistic.

ToR PSP is actually the one I'm most excited about for now.

 

[IceIpor]

Are those enemies for the TOS new? Hopefully it's being developed by an experienced Tales team that isn't just reusing old assets.

I really want confirmation on the developing studio/team...

(I don't want to call the new game TOS2 without confirmation... but I don't want to call it TOS:KOR either... hmm.)

 

[Soul4ger]

The guy from IGN is probably just upset that ToS Wii has circle shadows.

 

[rakka]

The guy from IGN is probably just upset that ToS Wii has circle shadows.

It's not just the spot shadows:
e.g

star fox adventures, 60fps on gamecube (only a year after launch)

tos2 on wii

SFA an early gamecube game has better lighting, textures, models, proper shadows, nearly everything is superior visually.

I have no idea what the devs are doing on the wii.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Wii

meh...i expected something like that -.-

 

[Dascu]

Thanks for all the comparison scans, fellas. Now I don't care about this announcement at all anymore.

 

[typhonsentra]

Look at the environment, it's done in a more realistic style. I doubt they're gonna have the characters celshaded and the environments realistic!

I wouldn't say "Realistic", more like something closer to the Abyss style.

I'll still buy this but that picture is hi-larious. Even the DS shot looks better.

 

[titiklabingapat]

What a surprise from Namco:lol

They could have at least tried to pass it off somehow or something.