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New Trek Is Called Star Trek Discovery
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John Kowalski
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I hope Huelen is excited.
What do you mean after DS9 and Voyager? This is clearly way before them and even before TOS. Taking this outside of the Milky Way would just utterly break canon.
maniac-kun
Member
Cant open the video. Its blocked in my country i guess? But WHY?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
He would presumably hate it since it is not in the movie timeline.
Ha! I was thinking it had that Original Series Romulan Warbird look.
The deflector dish suggests otherwise.
Chiaroscuro
Member
It is confirmed Prime Universe but not when? My guess it would take place pos-Enterprise pre -TOS, so universe distinctions would not matter.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Not really. The Voyager was NCC-74656 and launched in 2371, where the USS Clement was NCC-12537 and launched a year before.
Yeah that's the era things got messy with 9**** numbers etc. 1000-2000 is typically (but not always) pretty consistent.
I suppose we will find out in the next few months.
BattleMonkey
Member
So will whole show be for streaming at one time? So a person can subscribe for one month, binge, and cancel?
I think you're way too focussed on the registry. Stranger things have happened in Star Trek than registry numbers being reissued.
Muskieratboi
Member
You know what, I don't care.
I just wanna see a trek series as it arrives. I'm believing the hype!
I just wanna see a trek series as it arrives. I'm believing the hype!
Muskieratboi
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By STO, Starfleet Regs state Registry numbers can be reissued at will unless they are used by another ship.
Also that you can wear just about fucking anything as long as it's previous Starfleet Issue.
But then again, vidyagaems..
EDIT: Holy shit sub numbers for STO are going to go through the fucking roof.
- Please don't be a gritty sci fi show
- Please be post TNG era.
- I don't want pre-federation or another TOS timeline story. It's honestly kind of annoying that despite majority of the Star Trek being set in TNG/VOY/DS9 era they put so much focus on the timeline near TOS.
I would have also prefered episodic structure rather than serialised, you can tell a lot of stories this way from the 20 odd episodes. I don't want this to follow the format of serialised 10 episode a year show...that's too little. Something like DS9 would work if they want a mix between episodic and serialised. I have to say that I don't give a damn about the CGI, it can look like 90s CGI for all I care as long as it has substance because that's what matters. Good CGI and no substance results in Kelvin Trek.
Also the acronym for this show will be STD....lol
- Please be post TNG era.
- I don't want pre-federation or another TOS timeline story. It's honestly kind of annoying that despite majority of the Star Trek being set in TNG/VOY/DS9 era they put so much focus on the timeline near TOS.
I would have also prefered episodic structure rather than serialised, you can tell a lot of stories this way from the 20 odd episodes. I don't want this to follow the format of serialised 10 episode a year show...that's too little. Something like DS9 would work if they want a mix between episodic and serialised. I have to say that I don't give a damn about the CGI, it can look like 90s CGI for all I care as long as it has substance because that's what matters. Good CGI and no substance results in Kelvin Trek.
Also the acronym for this show will be STD....lol
Well in TOS the deflector dish was an actual physical dish. It didn't become a blue ball until the refit in the movies.
Christberg
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Between DS9 and Voyager, they're looking at potentially 4-5 different species that pose an existential threat and have an axe to grind and 2 more that are on shaky ground at best. Not good. Would be shocked if everything didn't get a massive firepower boost after the events of both.
There's other things as well though. The styling of the ship is way more TOS than DS9/VOY era, and we've seen ships from the future that are nothing like the style of the Discovery. The hull and nacelles are way more TOS era by not just Starfleet but also Klingon and Romulan standards.
The Discovery itself is certainly a TOS era ship and if the show is supposed to be optimistic and upbeat I can't think of any reason they'd be using a nearly two century old ship. A ship that old, if it were somehow still in service, would be relegated to routine patrol duties in a quiet core system somewhere, or used as a training ship for first year cadets who have no idea what they're doing.
TOS (pre-movie) ships had weird bronze satellite dish things, not glowing blueness.
You can thank the Vulcan influence on the federation for that.
aHebrewMenagerie
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I don't know, to me, it looks on par with the Enterprise-B.
What if it's set after or around Voyager/DS9 and the ship being "old" is a red herring?
My theory is that this ship has been sitting around in this asteroid for sometime until an event or a crew happen upon it. The Discovery title leads me to beleive that that ship isn't something the federation planned to roll out and is a prototype of sorts. Well see this new crew go up against far more advanced tech and continuously upgrade the ship to match the era.
After Enterprise was a flop and the Abramsverse is raking in cash, I doubt were going to get a hard sci-fi and something more character driven.
My theory is that this ship has been sitting around in this asteroid for sometime until an event or a crew happen upon it. The Discovery title leads me to beleive that that ship isn't something the federation planned to roll out and is a prototype of sorts. Well see this new crew go up against far more advanced tech and continuously upgrade the ship to match the era.
After Enterprise was a flop and the Abramsverse is raking in cash, I doubt were going to get a hard sci-fi and something more character driven.
aHebrewMenagerie
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That's the thing, I always took the registry numbers to be correspondent with the class of ship it is, not necessarily the period from which it came, constitutions were 17xx, excelsiors were 20xx, so on.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
One theory I have is that they might have decided to stick within the prime timeline but aesthetically reboot the series. I honestly wouldn't blame them considering the show has been off the air for about a decade now, which might make them feel that the same old Trek design language might need an overhaul.
Have been having a quick play in sketch up, increase the saucer size 15%, double the width of the neck, double the size of the deflector and move it further forward (so that it is situated under the black ring of the saucer) and it almost looks like something which isn't a horrific assault on the eyes. Still looks rough, just less bad.
I'd love it if that were the case, but there are too many examples of Constitution-class ships with registries that do not conform, such as the Constellation (NCC-1071), Intrepid (NCC-1631), Korolev (NCC-2014) and Ahwahnee (NCC-2048).
Interestingly, the last two have registries higher than the Excelsior's NCC-2000, so unless Starfleet continued to build brand new Constitution class vessels after the Excelsior for some reason, the idea of the registries being chronological may be flawed.
JustSomeone
Member
I kinda hoped it would take place on a space station, not a ship.
Regardless, I'm excited for it. We haven't had a good space tv show since battlestar galactica, which ended 7 years ago.
Regardless, I'm excited for it. We haven't had a good space tv show since battlestar galactica, which ended 7 years ago.
BattleMonkey
Member
Have they even started filming? I don't know why everything is so secretive about this project
Not until the Fall.
DS9 spent most of it's run struggling with ratings and that was with some of the best story in trek and even then they ended up on a 'hero' ship anyway. Hell two if you consider the Defiant and Rotarran sisters of war.
A ship show can do everything a station show can and more just please for the love of all things holy don't have a holodeck!
Oh god, I've always absolutely LOATHED the McQuarrie concept designs for Phase-II. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. He made OT Star Wars iconic, but I never liked his aesthetic in the Star Trek ships. I'm also so over pre-TNG era at this point. Hype is dying considerably for me now.
BattleMonkey
Member
Ok kinda explains that then, it's been talked about so long that was wondering why we have no footage, actors, or anything till this little teaser.
s_mirage
Member
I hate it too. It's like someone saw Ralph Mcquarrie's thankfully abandoned concepts for the TMP Enterprise and went, "Hmm, those look good".
PdotMichael
Banned
Ship also looks pretty small.
Wouldn't be surprised if landings on planets is a common element in the new series.
Wouldn't be surprised if landings on planets is a common element in the new series.
Regardless of how unpolished the teaser was, I'm still pretty hyped. Please don't let me down Star Trek!
Brilliant!!
Brilliant!!
Lonewolf_92
Member
Nah, remember, this show has a small budget, even compared to TV shows. Small Ship= Small crew= Small cast.
Look at it this way, it's likely there won't be as many meaningless "redshirt" deaths that way. Which is a good thing, given the way they want to tell the story. A smaller crew means we get more intimate with them and their deaths will be more effective.CloudyTuba
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Pre-TOS. Interesting choice but I was hoping for post-nemesis.
Effects are bad but it was probably just a quick teaser put together by a couple dudes for the con. Not a full production budget.
Kind of iffy on the ship itself. Obviously based on rejected concept art for TMP. I think it was rejected for a reason though. Still, couple easy changes and I think it would be a fine design. Shrink the secondary hull just a little and move the nacelles back. Done. They did say that the current design is not final.
With more time I'd like to do an actual mockup in perspective but this is all I have time for at the moment.
Effects are bad but it was probably just a quick teaser put together by a couple dudes for the con. Not a full production budget.
Kind of iffy on the ship itself. Obviously based on rejected concept art for TMP. I think it was rejected for a reason though. Still, couple easy changes and I think it would be a fine design. Shrink the secondary hull just a little and move the nacelles back. Done. They did say that the current design is not final.
With more time I'd like to do an actual mockup in perspective but this is all I have time for at the moment.
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