belgurdo said:Somewhere out there, a DS sheds a tear
Amir0x said:Holy fuck, look at all those jaggies! That shit looks horrible! This could probably be done on DS! Jesus, that's ugly! My eyes have been shattered!
drohne said:the tron-looking shots are probably from zone mode. this will surely be awesome...but i have a hard time caring about a 30fps racing game. :/
Culex said:I'm not so sure you'll be able to even see 'teh jaggies' when the game is running, anyway :lol
Amir0x said:Oh, you can't. I've watched many videos about Wipeout Pure because I'm actually interested in this one since it goes back to what made Wipeout so great in the first place.
My statement was just me being silly because the jaggies are the first thing someone might pick apart on screen captures like these.
Mejilan said:Out of curiosity, how many Wipeout games/versions where there in the USA? And for what systems?
aoi tsuki said:Wipeout (PSOne)
Wipeout (Saturn - Tantalus-developed with two exclusive songs and one CoLD SToRAGE track left out of the PSOne version)
Wipeout XL (PSOne)
Wipeout 2097 (PC/Mac - European name of WOXL)
Wipeout 64 (N64 - Based on WOXL with all new tracks IIRC, lesser music)
Wipeout 3 (PSOne)
Wipeout Fusion (PS2)
Looks good so far. Hopefully it's not rushed for the US launch. And if you think the PSP version looks jagtastic, the DS version would look far worse considering the lack of filtering and the lower resolution).
Seriously, this is a joke, right? F-Zero has no textures. And like ten polygons per vehicle. And no environments. As for jaggies, remember that this is a 4" screen here--unlike your typical screenshots, what you see isn't going to be stretched 27/32/60 inches when you're playing it.Tenacious-V said:Looks like something the DS could do no prob. Similar to F-Zero X on N64.
Yes they are.Mejilan said:Thanks. So, Wipeout XL (PSOne) and Wipeout 2097 are the same game?
AFAIK, they're largely identical. i only toyed with the PC and Mac versions, but i used to own the Saturn import, which had analog control via the NiGHTS pad, as well as a soundtrack done completely by CoLD SToRAGE. It was also faster than the PSOne version, though the graphics and sound were noticeably lesser. i need to rebuy it because the NiGHTS pad felt a lot better than the PSOne's analog. Heck, even the N64 pad's analog worked better for me.Mejilan said:Thanks. So, Wipeout XL (PSOne) and Wipeout 2097 are the same game?
Mostly the fact that they look nothing at all like the best Wipeout games, which Designer's Republic made beautiful.teiresias said:I fail to see what's so "hideous" about those last two shots at all.
aoi tsuki said:AFAIK, they're largely identical. i only toyed with the PC and Mac versions, but i used to own the Saturn import, which had analog control via the NiGHTS pad, as well as a soundtrack done completely by CoLD SToRAGE.
This is true. Aside from being racing games with a futuristic setting, F-Zero and Wipeout have zero in common. F-Zero is more twitch, Wipeout is finesse. Wipeout's more technical racing. And Wipeout's about amazing visual design.DCharlie said:Wipeout has never been like F-Zero IMO.
MarkRyan said:Seriously, this is a joke, right? F-Zero has no textures. And like ten polygons per vehicle. And no environments. As for jaggies, remember that this is a 4" screen here--unlike your typical screenshots, what you see isn't going to be stretched 27/32/60 inches when you're playing it.
aoi tsuki said:This portion reminds me of the first track in Wipeout, only completely suspended. It's also reminiscent of that 3D0 racer i can't recall at the moment. i actually like this shot, despite the lack of detail. Looks like a good spot for blind jumps.
Wipeout (PSOne) had Transvaal by CoLD SToRAGE. Wipeout (Saturn) didn't, but had two tracks by artists Poison and Cloud Nine which the PSOne version didn't.FortNinety said:So the soundtrack was different? Interesting...
With all due respect...Tenacious-V said:Nope, not joking. I don't see the graphical jump from the F-Zero X to this. Take F-Zero X, output it to a screen the size of DS's and you'll get similar results to this.
DCharlie said:"It's no F-Zero GX, but I like it."
Wipeout has never been like F-Zero IMO.
I just hope we are back to the 2097 feel and not the "Fusion" feel
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IGN said:Q: What new elements have you introduced to the game?
Berry: The first perhaps most crucial element is not new as such, but a return to the very early days. We have abandoned the dynamics system from Wipeout Fusion, the ships are no longer 'locked' to the track, they are free to bounce and leave the track when you move fast over the undulating surface it is a throw back to the feel of the earlier games, that was one of the earliest decisions made and the game feels like Wipeout because of it.....hence the name Wipeout Pure!
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Tenacious-V said:Point being? That game was outputted to a full size TV screen @ 60FPS. Take that same tech (N64) and output to a screen like DS and guarantee it'll look similar. That and with the extra headroom of the screen output you could beef it up. Like I said, it's not straight up clones, I said "similar". PSP Wipeout isn't spectacular, that's all I'm saying. DS could do it.
Amir0x said:Even better, look at Wipeout 64:
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Watch the video posted in this thread. DS couldn't do this even if God himself was the programmer.
Tenacious-V said:I've seen it. I dunno, just doesn't look like much to me. Surely not the "God himself" couldn't do it kinda difference you guys are saying. No way am I implying that DS is any match for PSP, I'm just saying if you guys think this blows away DS capabilities you gotta be kidding me. Take F-Zero X, change it to 30FPS output it to DS and beef it up with the excess headroom. You'll be sore to find a drastic difference.
Amir0x said:I'm honestly in awe of this logic then. I can't even begin to think what must be required to see the world through eyes like these, but I won't mock you no longer.
I'm sure if you input F-Zero X to the DS at 30fps we'd ALL have a hard time finding a drastic difference between it and this! :lol