Version 3.0
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Looking good, I'm really impressed by the cell-shading. But I'd like to take a moment to lament (once again) that cel-shaded Link has to look so ugly. It's such a shame that we'll probably never get:
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New Zelda Phantom Hourglass Screens
- Thread starter king zell
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Chris Michael
Banned
Graphics look great. Dreading the game itself.
I would've settled for a traditional Zelda... with quick item swapping via the touch screen. But noooo, the touch screen needs to be used in all the wrong ways!
I would've settled for a traditional Zelda... with quick item swapping via the touch screen. But noooo, the touch screen needs to be used in all the wrong ways!
CurseoftheGods
Banned
king zell said:
Pretty good looking for a Wii game.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Error said:
I quoted it so you could look at the screenshots on page 3. And I apologize if my comment personally hurt you, I didn't know it was such a sensitive issue.
It's a joke my friend.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
I'm surprised overall (and again) by how good Nintendo EAD can handle their systems in comparison to Third Parties. I mean, this is DS: a shitty ARM 9 + ARM7 CPU (but the graphics is handled only by the 67 Mhz CPU with 4 MB RAM).
The N64 was clocked at 97 Mhz. But the graphics of this game is far better then any N64 game. EAD knows how to make good games with very limited resources.
The N64 was clocked at 97 Mhz. But the graphics of this game is far better then any N64 game. EAD knows how to make good games with very limited resources.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Do the games run at a lower resolution? That might be it.
This is a FANTASTIC looking title though. I can't wait to play it. I need my 2D Zelda fix.
Eteric Rice
Member
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Yeah, S-E is good with it too. Dragon Quest IX looks amazing.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Eteric Rice said:
Very true. Every DS title SE put out so far has been stunning.
EAD never fails to bring the good stuff. Can't wait to play this on DS (and I have no doubt what so ever that EAD can make the touchscreen gameplay very solid if not great). Would like to see a new trailer though, and while they're at it announce ****ing Fire Emblem DS already.
Eteric Rice
Member
Will we be able to play without the touch screen, or is that forced now?
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Magicpaint
Member
Eteric Rice said:
Hopefully there are no other options. I wouldn't call it forced anyway, the touch screen in a primary input solution for the DS, so games using it primarily shouldn't be scoffed at, just as games using the traditional control scheme primarily shouldn't be scoffed at for lacking touch screen input, as long as it works well enough for what the game is and to the best of the DS hardware. I'm hoping this works well, and I'm glad they're taking such a risk.
Stormbringer
Member
Does anyone remember how much time passed before people got tired of making the same joke about the DS graphics over and over again ? It's obvious that retroactively, these screens, and those of numerous games since, would have made some excellent cases in point at this time...
But I wonder how much time will pass until people stop making the same Wii joke over and over again ?
But I wonder how much time will pass until people stop making the same Wii joke over and over again ?
Eteric Rice
Member
Stormbringer said:
When devs start trying harder, I suppose.
Same situation, it seems. Lol
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Stormbringer said:
Until Wii games stop looking like shit? In other words, when Super Mario Galaxy and SSB: Brawl get released.
CurseoftheGods said:
Smart lad. Had your Weetabix today?
CurseoftheGods said:
H8U
Stormbringer said:
Don't get ahead of yourself. This game is still running on DS hardware, and it is NOT Windwaker. The game will probably be the best-looking DS game when it is released, which means its N64-caliber.
Wii is comparable to Xbox, DS is comparable to N64. Doesn't mean you can't get decent performance out of them, but no magic is suddenly going to make them more than they are.
i'm not usually one to backseat mod and call out for bans, but....CurseoftheGods said:
ban him.
milanbaros
Member?
Stormbringer said:
If the wii follows a similar pattern to the PS2 we can expect a big leap from current Wii software in the coming years. But then the PS2 was battling it out with the xbox and gcn games for graphical supremecy. The wii games will only be battling with itself to people who seem to care very little about graphical power.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Scrow said:
milanbaros said:
You will see an improvement mainly because 3rd parties are porting their unoptimized PS2 engines over, but its not going to be like the PS2.
There will be a nice bump when developers start working directly on Wii, after that don't expect much more. The system really is Gamecube with a faster processor and more ram. There are a few new instructions in the graphics unit that will add something, but the Wii hardware is not a mystery.
PS2 has growth mainly because the Emotion engine had a completely foreign architecture.
Stormbringer
Member
Eteric Rice said:
In the perfect world, this fad would die as soon as the rickroll fad (which is probaly very soon) , but I guess that we are going to have to get realistic and wait until the graphics in Wii games largely surpass the current graphic standards on the console, which will, indeed, happen one day. Hopefully, this doesn't take too long, because the interweb can only take so much of a joke before declaring it overused.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Scrow said:
A Link to the Past
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AniHawk said:
Yeah, but Suzak.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
theBishop said:
I'd like to see the N64 pull of celshading of this calibur. In fact I'd love to see the N64 pull off celshading at all! (And at a solid 30FPS to boot. This looks way better than OOT and MM AND runs at 30FPS compared to the the 20FPS that OOT and MM ran at!)
theBishop said:
Not sure about that. GameCube was hardly tapped out either and it too was completely foreign as are all proprietary graphics chipsets.
Nuclear Muffin said:
DS can handle more polys on screen as evidenced by the Mario 64 launch title. The only thing it lacked was mip mapping and AA, but it still has texture filtering as the textures doesn't distort or warp.
HylianScribe
Member
I'm gonna be starting up the official PH (JP) thread next week.
Magicpaint said:
Yup. Hopefully they won't tack on traditional controls at the last minute just to satisfy people who have their little conniption fits at the very idea of using one of the two principle things that the system was designed around.
I'm glad they're taking the risk, I'm glad they're shaking up a lot of things with the staid Zelda formula in this game (not just the controls, but also the layout and pacing, the central dungeon, the possibly more non-linear approach of exploring and getting sands) and I hope it turns out well. I know what I played of the demo was fun and I'm sure it's been improved beyond that.
TSA said:
Kinda early for that. The game still has almost a whole month before release.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
TSA said:
That's not allowed on the board anymore. You'd have to do it a week before its release date at earliest.
HylianScribe
Member
I didn't see any rule on this and I did ask a week ago about it...but no response. I was going to start it when the Japanese Microsite went live.
It's not a month away, it's 3 weeks away now. Oh well, I'll wait till the week beforehand.
It's not a month away, it's 3 weeks away now. Oh well, I'll wait till the week beforehand.
Peru said:
:lol
But anyway, the game does look much improved since before (maybe it's the resolution size). I'd still prefer a 2D Zelda, however. The lack of texture filtering is still a major problem with 3D DS games (well, for me at least).
CurseoftheGods said:
**** off. This isnt funny anymore.