Thanks. So what does Newt mean by "professional brilliance?" He's saying the Pearl Harbor attack was professionally brilliant?
I'm just still not following lol.
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Newt Gingrich: "75 years ago the Japanese displayed professional brilliance"
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Thanks. So what does Newt mean by "professional brilliance?" He's saying the Pearl Harbor attack was professionally brilliant?
I'm just still not following lol.
Essentially for the first Dec. 7th in 75 years an American politician is publicly sympathizing, even in a small way, with an Axis power.
Kind of a big deal.
Claude Kenni
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It's goes with trumps "whatever happened to the elements of surprise"?
Maybe that's the point?
On December 7th 1941 Japan launched a surprise attack by bombing the US Pacific Fleet (minus the carriers) at Pearl Harbour. This brought the US into the war and eventually lead to the demise of the Japanese Imperial Empire.
You don't know about Pearl Harbour?
It's a dumb tweet but in context around the other tweets not as bad as it looks in isolation.
LordOfChaos
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He tweeted this first, and another one after, as a continuous thought. This one makes it sound...Not much better, but the middle tweet in isolation is a little disingenuous.
https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/806619987955908608
https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/806619987955908608
Oddly enough, if he only posts just the next tweet about coordinated worldwide surprise attacks would have been/may be ok, imo
https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/806620881015439360
Frozenprince
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The US fleet was crippled, but not broken, it's ability to project was made limited but recovered after only a year, not several years like many in the empire had planned.
……forgetit
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I am honesty confused by this development.
Lonewolf_92
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor
He's praising the Japanese attack on the anniversary of the attack. A surprise attack that left 2,403 Americans dead and 1,178 wounded. It's be like a Japanese politician praising the US use of atomic bombs on the day we dropped them. Not a politically savvy move.
Technological power, sure, but professional brilliance? What does that even mean in this context. The attack wasn't a great success for them and ultimately led to Japan getting nuked. Twice.
More importantly though, why does he feel the need to tweet something like this. Just trolling?
More importantly though, why does he feel the need to tweet something like this. Just trolling?
DOBERMAN INC
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He must think their China "campaign" was incredible.
That was actually 100% luck on the US's part. The crux of the pacific fleet was out doing training exercises, so they just happened to not be in port at the time. If they had been in port, it would have destroyed our entire pacific fleet and who knows what would have happened.
Intelligence.
CD'S BAR
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What a very distasteful thing to say, regardless of whether or not it could be argued true.
Reminds me of when Karlheinz Stockhausen (one of the great composers of the last 100 years) said of 9/11: "Well, what happened there is, of coursenow all of you must adjust your brainsthe biggest work of art there has ever been."
Use some discretion for fuck's sake.
Reminds me of when Karlheinz Stockhausen (one of the great composers of the last 100 years) said of 9/11: "Well, what happened there is, of coursenow all of you must adjust your brainsthe biggest work of art there has ever been."
Use some discretion for fuck's sake.
Was it luck or did they know to move them?
old manatee
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Newt Gingrich sounds like a Battlefield loading screen.
And yet it's been only 36 years since Newt launched a surprise affair on his first wife Jackie, then displayed professional brilliance by springing a divorce on her while she battled cancer, and technological power by still being millions of dollars in debt from his 2012 campaign run.
PantherLotus
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If you treat everything Newt says like it's coming from a high functioning aspy / high IQ-low social understanding type it makes a lot more sense. Amazing he got elected in the first place.
Angelus Errare
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I know he really went there but it look like he was copy pasted into the shot lol.
He's suggesting the opposite. While being tone-deaf and praising Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor, he's also fear-mongering over the United States being susceptible to a similar surprise attack today.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Victory is delayed 6 months. Maybe 9 if they capture Hawaii instead of just striking. With a fraction of the war resources of the US they outmuscled the IJN and beat them back to the home islands. Japan couldnt compete with the shipbuilding capabilities of America in the long term, even if the pacific fleet was devastated more completely. They have no way of invading America.
capitalCORN
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Another turn of the screw before America goes full fascist.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Luck. Nobody at that time realized that the Carrier would dominate the conflict to come, and they would have saved the bigger battleships if it was a conspiracy. The sinking of two or three ships would have sent America to war, so realistically they gained nothing by having so many ships sunk and being on no alert.
NoblesseOblige
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Since the Smash Mouth thread just got locked, I'll ask here:
Is knowing the anniversary of Pearl Harbor really a thing normal people know offhand?
Is knowing the anniversary of Pearl Harbor really a thing normal people know offhand?
Yes.
Especially older people, that's like asking if 9/11 is a date that everyone knows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8gYGg0dkE
Gentleman Jack
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The reminders in domestic media are pretty persistent from morning till night. If you don't remember it, someone will remind you today.
Yes?
FDR begins his address to Congress, which we have the video and audio recording of, with:
Yesterday, December 7, 1941a date which will live in infamythe United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.
It's a pretty notable date for the country and it's specifically stated in a famous speech.
GillianSeed79
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Newt is a weebo confirmed. Also explains the GOP-Anime avatars connection. In all seriousness what terrible fucking timing. It's like 75 tears from now someone saying the same thing about the 9/11 hijackers on 9/11.
Demoskinos
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I mean if your looking at that from a pure military perspective sure the Japanese caught us off guard in a big way that really was a huge blow to us. However when your a public figure you know maybe don't tweet that out?
I do agree with this for the most part, but I do wonder if we would have been able to keep up the fight as well in the European theatre while being forced to focus on rebuild our 3rd fleet.
metalslimer
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So brilliant it resulted in the destruction of their empire?
Lostconfused
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Wouldn't need a Berlin Wall if that happened.
The decision to do it was dumb, but the actual attack and strategy behind the attack was not.
NoblesseOblige
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I've never heard anyone mention its date. Not even my grandfather who fought in the Pacific.
I didn't ask if it was notable. I asked if it's a thing people know off hand. A lot of things are notable but if you poll the average person for a date they'll shrug. It's not like 9/11 where we literally call it by the date.
That's just what they want you to think.
If we poll the average person right now, they have a good chance at believing a conspiracy theory.
It's a pretty famous date. I don't know what to tell you.
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