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[farisr]

Just an FYI, here are 2016 split figures (taken from the same website) for US Japan and Germany. Germany's console sector still has a big gap revenue wise compared to Japan contrary to what some people believe in this thread.

US---
Console = 11.4 billion
PC = 5.4 billion
Mobile = 6.8 billion
Total - 23.6 Billion

Japan---
Console = 4.7 Billion
PC = 1.2 Billion
Mobile = 6.5 Billion
Total = 12.4 Billion

Germany--
Console = 2 billion
PC = 1.1 Billion
Mobile = 0.9 Billion
Total = 4 Billion

 

[NewDust]

The smaller european countries don't seem to spend a great deal on gaming. Not sure why, maybe the lack of localisations?

Most European countries on the right side have both a higher GDP and higher income taxes.

 

[allan-bh]

...how is Venezuela higher than Peru and Uruguay?

Uruguay has a population of just 3.5 million.

 

[silva1991]

Hell yeah Saudi Arabia.

 

[LifeBrandRobot]

Canada in the top 10 with the lowest population.

I wonder how it compared to when our prices were still the same as the US.

 

[protomouse]

Germany higher than the UK is a bit surprising. and France quite a bit below both

Is it? Larger population + higher standards of living.

 

[spekkeh]

Just an FYI, here are 2016 split figures (taken from the same website) for US Japan and Germany. Germany's console sector still has a big gap revenue wise compared to Japan contrary to what some people believe in this thread.

US---
Console = 11.4 billion
PC = 5.4 billion
Mobile = 6.8 billion
Total - 23.6 Billion

Japan---
Console = 4.7 Billion
PC = 1.2 Billion
Mobile = 6.5 Billion
Total = 12.4 Billion

Germany--
Console = 2 billion
PC = 1.1 Billion
Mobile = 0.9 Billion
Total = 4 Billion

Huh so Germany is almost just as much pc country as the U.S. nowadays, which is to say not really.

 

[bigjig]

Just an FYI, here are 2016 split figures (taken from the same website) for US Japan and Germany. Germany's console sector still has a big gap revenue wise compared to Japan contrary to what some people believe in this thread.

US---
Console = 11.4 billion
PC = 5.4 billion
Mobile = 6.8 billion
Total - 23.6 Billion

Japan---
Console = 4.7 Billion
PC = 1.2 Billion
Mobile = 6.5 Billion
Total = 12.4 Billion

Germany--
Console = 2 billion
PC = 1.1 Billion
Mobile = 0.9 Billion
Total = 4 Billion

Hmmm, this is surprising considering the amount of gaffers who go on and on about how Japan is a dead market console wise. Japan has the same amount of console-based gaming revenue as the US proportional to its population, so where does all the doom and gloom come from?

 

[Lexxism]

I wonder how it compared to when our prices were still the same as the US.

I remember seeing a similar thread way back 2013 or 2014 where Canada is 6th I think.

 

[hanspampel]

Just an FYI, here are 2016 split figures (taken from the same website) for US Japan and Germany. Germany's console sector still has a big gap revenue wise compared to Japan contrary to what some people believe in this thread.

US---
Console = 11.4 billion
PC = 5.4 billion
Mobile = 6.8 billion
Total - 23.6 Billion

Japan---
Console = 4.7 Billion
PC = 1.2 Billion
Mobile = 6.5 Billion
Total = 12.4 Billion

Germany--
Console = 2 billion
PC = 1.1 Billion
Mobile = 0.9 Billion
Total = 4 Billion

i said console without handhelds pretty clear
some consider handhelds mobile and other consider handhelds consoles
this 4.7bn figure from Newzoo is the total dedicated gaming market including handhelds
same reason, you could argue about JP mobile market being above US or not.
without Handhelds it's pretty close. If you consider Handhelds to be mobile, it's not even a question


when it comes to home consoles, Japan is actually behind Germany (but also just recently, thanks to the steady decline in JP)

Ps4 hardware sales are are pretty even now
3.2 million in August 2016 for DE (no update yet)
3.1 million in August 2016 for JP
Germany has at least a second console, that is not dead in the Xbox One
also tie ratios for Japan in general are lower than western markets
and i also said this could easily change again with Switch

 

[Mandoric]

Hmmm, this is surprising considering the amount of gaffers who go on and on about how Japan is a dead market console wise. Japan has the same amount of console-based gaming revenue as the US proportional to its population, so where does all the doom and gloom come from?

Japan's fixed console market has been declining since 1997. Essentially flatline since 1993 before that. A lot of slack has been made up in portables, and it's a very tall peak that the tumble has been from, but yeah 25 years of doldrums while western development grew from Earthworm Jim to Grand Theft Auto V is a biiiiiit of a downer.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Wow, China has eclipsed the US? That's surprising.

LIKE FOR REAL? They're making so much money off of games, but we never hear about any of the games they make or release dates for games in their country. It's like a secret burner.

 

[RoadHazard]

#27 isn't too bad for 10 million people I guess?

 

[Bananakin]

Well, this sure will help to ground discussions about market sizes:

https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-100-countries-by-game-revenues/

Excludes hardware sales though.

Germany is number 4, surprised that France is so much smaller than Germany, UK and Korea.

Wait, what does "internet population" mean in this context? It can't just be "the total number of people in the country who use the internet". I'm a Canadian, and there's no way 91.5% of our population uses the internet. Per the CCSD, just discounting 0-4 year olds alone you're at 94.7%. And how many of the 12.9% of people above 65 do you think use the internet?

It also seems suspicious that our internet population would be such a different fraction of the total population compared to the US (80% vs 94.7%). Sure, the countries are a bit different, but not *that* different. I suspect different collection methodologies, or something like that.

 

[Platy]

Brazilian Senate made a poll a few hours ago on their "talk to the people" site and asked

"Do you want to reduce gaming's taxes from 72% to 9% ?"

This is how brazilian people are DESPERATE for cheaper games

 

[23qwerty]

Wait, what does "internet population" mean in this context? It can't just be "the total number of people in the country who use the internet". I'm a Canadian, and there's no way 91.5% of our population uses the internet. Per the CCSD, just discounting 0-4 year olds alone you're at 94.7%. And how many of the 12.9% of people above 65 do you think use the internet?

It also seems suspicious that our internet population would be such a different fraction of the total population compared to the US (80% vs 94.7%). Sure, the countries are a bit different, but not *that* different. I suspect different collection methodologies, or something like that.

it sounds about right tbh

 

[SargerusBR]

Brazil would be much higher if taxes didn't make gaming much more expensive and piracy didn't dominate the market here like crazy.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

That's a lot of total revenue and I'm not really surprised with China leading the way considering their population

Just an FYI, here are 2016 split figures (taken from the same website) for US Japan and Germany. Germany's console sector still has a big gap revenue wise compared to Japan contrary to what some people believe in this thread.

US---
Console = 11.4 billion
PC = 5.4 billion
Mobile = 6.8 billion
Total - 23.6 Billion

Japan---
Console = 4.7 Billion
PC = 1.2 Billion
Mobile = 6.5 Billion
Total = 12.4 Billion

Germany--
Console = 2 billion
PC = 1.1 Billion
Mobile = 0.9 Billion
Total = 4 Billion

Japan's mobile revenue ...makes sense why they're in the top 3

 

[petran79]

What really surprises me is Spain being ahead of Italy.

Portugal and Czech Republic have also very good ranks, much higher than Greece who was considered to be financially in a better shape.

But I attribute it more to the factor that those countries were always far ahead in creative industries infrastructure.

 

[opricnik]

What a stupid shit. We are in top 20 but barely get any localizations for %95 of video games while countries at 40 or something gets.

 

[nOoblet16]

India lol. Get your shit together.

Considering people in India are still usually very reserved about buying games (hence why PC population is huge there in comparison due to pirated games), I'd say it's doing pretty well...more so for a country where gaming is seen as stupid.

 

[Melchiah]

Out of curiosity, I counted how much the revenue of the European countries is in total, and it's 20,293,715,000$. That's not far from the US total, and hopefully puts to rest the narrative that the region isn't that significant compared to it.

I didn't count a couple of countries who are currently applying for EU, and I might have missed some of them.

 

[Trace]

Canada in the top 10 with the lowest population.

If it was "revenue generated by games produced in these countries" Canada would be in the top 5.

 

[Neuro]

India and Thailand on the list surprise me quite a bit

 

[wildfire]

So now Mexico is the biggest market for gaming in Latin America, awesome

How could this be even in question? Who could compete in any industry? Panama? When it comes to Latin America I have a hard time seeing the next top 4 combined being above Mexico.

 

[LordCiego]

Nice to see Spain in the top10. I dont know if its just from my point of view but piracy culture is becoming less prevalent for videogames compared to not so many years ago.

 

[Monty Mole]

I thought Japan was irrelevant?

Someone also told me that UK was the biggest after US?

Did NewGAF lie to me?

No, this includes mobile + PC.

UK has typically been bigger than Germany for console gaming revenues in the past, but that's only because PC gaming is bigger in Germany (and they're spending more of their time working on global domination.)

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I am surprised by Iran at number 24.

How do they calculate this revenue? This is just estimation for the most part, right?

 

[gconsole]

I remember when the UK was rivaling Japan, now we are behind Germany? Ok so we are still a significant market but that stings.

UK never been rival to Japan. It was the console market size that UK get close to Japan, but not as a whole.

 

[spineduke]

I wouldn't trust this list too much.. Syria's economy is devastated and in the middle of a war, but somehow they are still projected to generate more sales revenue than 30 more other countries in the top 100 list?

 

[ASIS]

saudi arabia at 19?

That's much better than what I was expecting! Wow!!

 

[Aressa]

(19) and 647million and still gaming is considered for kids and still no big companies investing in my country.

(Saudi Arabia)

 

[Frankfurter]

i said console without handhelds pretty clear
some consider handhelds mobile and other consider handhelds consoles
this 4.7bn figure from Newzoo is the total dedicated gaming market including handhelds
same reason, you could argue about JP mobile market being above US or not.
without Handhelds it's pretty close. If you consider Handhelds to be mobile, it's not even a question


when it comes to home consoles, Japan is actually behind Germany (but also just recently, thanks to the steady decline in JP)

Ps4 hardware sales are are pretty even now
3.2 million in August 2016 for DE (no update yet)
3.1 million in August 2016 for JP
Germany has at least a second console, that is not dead in the Xbox One
also tie ratios for Japan in general are lower than western markets
and i also said this could easily change again with Switch

One is pretty dead in Germany. It's probably still not ahead of Wii U.

 

[texhnolyze]

Hah, we made it into the top 20. Of course most of the revenues are coming from mobile.

 

[Elven_Star]

Iran at #24 despite the fact that most publishers don't even recognize its existence. Guess it's bound to happen when over 60 percent of its 80 million population is under 30.

 

[vivekTO]

Is someone could only capture 1% of INDIA

I assume that most of the revenue comes from steam, thanks to its regional pricing cause the console are expensive and games are like Luxury items.

 

[hanspampel]

One is pretty dead in Germany. It's probably still not ahead of Wii U.

Germany:

For some perspective for how these consoles are doing:

Xbox 360 November 2008 [36 months]: 664k
PS3 November 2008 [21 months]: 696k
Wii November 2008 [24 months]: 1.388m

Xbox One July 2016 [33 months]: 706k
PS4 July 2016 [33 months]: 3.26m
Wii U July 2016 [44 months]: 750k

Japan:
Ps4 July 2016 [30 months] 3.06m
Xbox One July 2016 [23 months] 67k
Wii U July 2016 [44 months] 3.3m



one is pretty dead, the other isn't
unless you consider the X360 in Germany also dead, the Ps3 close to dead and the WiiU beyond dead
when i talk about dead. i also talk about software sales and output.
Vita is a perfect example of moving some hardware, but close to no software (outside of Japan)

 

[megametaman]

I lived in Korea 2 years. You can hardly find console games and nobody buys them. I don't think people buy games. It must be all pc cafes. They have 3 on every corner and kids flock to them. I'm assuming they don't always have the games themselves to play at home. Or their parents give them shit for playing too much.

 

[allan-bh]

I wouldn't trust this list too much.. Syria's economy is devastated and in the middle of a war, but somehow they are still projected to generate more sales revenue than 30 more other countries in the top 100 list?

In parts of Syria people are living a normal life.

 

[Mista Koo]

It's great that we have a growing presence, I hope we get to actually make the games soon and not just consume them.

(19) and 647million and still gaming is considered for kids and still no big companies investing in my country.

(Saudi Arabia)

I've heard that the goverment might be pushing some gaming initiatives soon.

 

[TheRealTalker]

List seems reasonable

especially were we have lately seen gaming events/cons

China being first due to massive economic growth, population, etc... also makes sense

 

[Aressa]

I've heard that the goverment might be pushing some gaming initiatives soon.

I hope so.